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    newbie question

    hi guys,

    i just want to ask a very newbie question.

    first a little background about me. i used to ride a lot back in the 90's with my bmx. then decided to go bigger(mtb) with a hardtail single speed urban/street bike. now i've decided to go all mountain/trail full suspension bike and i want to start and build around my dream frame 2008 ELLSWORTH MOMENT. money is a big problem for me but at the same time i want my bike to be something that would last longer than my riding capabilities. that's why my plan is to take it slow and and really do my research before buying any part that i would put in my bike. so far i bought a frame(Ells),headset (chris king), fork (fox talas) and chris king front hubs 20mm. i'm contented to ride it with my single speed set-up from my urban bike. i really want to be careful and not waste money buying parts that i would end-up selling for a lower price simply because it's not compatible or it's a force buy for me.

    my question:

    should i worry about the geometry of my bike too much?

    or

    geometry doesn't matter as long as i'm comfortable riding it?

    or

    it's all about the looks? hehehehehe

    thanks in advance!

    RIDE ON!!!
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    a bit late for that question!!!!

    Since you already chose a frame, you are pretty much stuck with
    Your moment's geometry. Current trend in geometry is to go
    Slack. Low head angle and seat angle. This allows for more
    Control on the downhills, but slower steering for cross country
    Type courses (many turns, lots of bike flicking). What works
    For you depends solely on your preference and type of riding
    As trail bikes go, the moment' geometry is on the steep side,
    You being an old time rider, I think you will like the moment's geo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedro
    I think you will like the moment's geo
    And if not, at least the HTA can be changed via an angleset.

    It's a sweet frameset and fun will be had.

    -Pete
    I can barely get my mouth around it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pedalphile
    And if not, at least the HTA can be changed via an angleset.

    It's a sweet frameset and fun will be had.

    -Pete

    that's a standard 1 1/8" headtube, so no chance for an angleset.
    I'd hit it, but I bruise like a peach.

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    Any luck on putting this bike together? Any photos? I have an 05 moment, great bike, but never quite fit me. I have a 07 epiphany though that I am crazy about. Wish it had a larger seatpost diameter.
    Live fast, Die young, Leave a good looking corpse!

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    Thanks for the inputs guys. now i really can't wait to ride this baby. from the shop to the house made me stoked already. riding a full-suspension bike is way different from hardtail bikes. all your inputs will help. again, thank you for contributing. i'm still in the learning stage so every little input will help.

    this is what i have now. decided to go for a chris king 20mm coz my old hub won't fit (9mm) so, basically no choice. oops, i have to put my chain tensioner hehehehe.

    i'm planning to save up for "gear set" (back only) for my next purchase. any other suggestions for my next buy? am i right saving up for a "gear set" (is this the right term for that?) hehehehehe
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    additional: can somebody tell me what year my MOMENT is? thanks again

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    Ellsworth don't have "model years" like big brands (Specialized, Trek, etc.)

    they define their frame models by using the "Mark" classification

    the Mk1 Moment had a round carbon fibre bridge on the aluminium rocker

    the Mk2 Moment (this is your frame) had a rectangular carbon fibre bridge on the aluminium rocker

    the MK3 Moment (also called SST) introduced more swoopy looking shaped tubing rather than the round tubing on the Mk1 and Mk2

    the Mk4 Moment (called SST2) introduced ISCG mounts, tapered head tube and slightly adjusted geometry

    have fun with your Mk 2 Moment, its a great frame and a really nice ride, with great geometry and tough for real world riding

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    @ hampstead bandit - sir, thank you this very useful information. now if people ask me i know what to tell them about my frame. thanks

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    almost done........

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    Quote Originally Posted by bpnic
    that's a standard 1 1/8" headtube, so no chance for an angleset.
    I just bought an angleset headset from www.ofanaim.net .it is for a standard 1 1/8th headtube !!!! cost $200 . I will let you know when it arrives.

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    Your frame is actually a Mk1 not a Mk2.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sparker3000
    Your frame is actually a Mk1 not a Mk2.
    Not sure what determines the moment to be Mk1 or Mk2

    This frame is definitely the revised version. It has a flat carbon connecting the upper linkage. The linkage from the chainstay to the main triangle may has some sort of cross reinforcement.

    Heres my "MK1" bike. notice its with the round carbon tube. The lower link is hollow (cant see from this picture though)
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    hjtan - It is definitely a MK1 although you rightly point out that it has updated rockers. The Mk1 has straight tubes and a headtube gusset. I have a MK2 , see here (not my frame):



    Then the Mk3 went with swoopy tubes:


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