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    new ellsworth epiphany...

    hi everyone, im just kinda excited this evening, i've just bought a new ellsworth epiphany
    it is a custom built...i should be getting it by mail, hopefully by next week...and this is how i set it up...
    Ellsworth Epihany 2006 size 15 nebula blue with RP3 shock
    Fox Float RLC 140 disc
    Mavic Crossmax ST (07) I.S. disc pair
    Selle Italia SLR gel flow
    Maxxis High Rollers 26 x 2.35 UST tubeless
    Easton EC70 CNT MonkeyLite carbon bar high rise 25.4
    Avid Juicy 5 disc brakes 185 mm front 160 mm rear
    Shimano XT crankset with BB 175 mm
    Shimano XT M761 rear derailleur long cage
    Shimano XT M761 front derailleur top pull
    Shimano HG-93
    Shimano XT M 760 9 speed cassette 11-34
    Shimano XT M760 rapidfire shift lever pair
    Thomson Elite stem 90 mm 5 degree rise
    Thomson Elite seatpost 410 mm lenght
    Chris King nothreadset 1-1/8 blue
    Odi lock on grips
    ...what do you think of my set up guys... ? i can't wait to be back on the trail with this dream bike, my specialized enduro is kinda busted right now...so, i've been riding my road bike for the past few days now, thanks for the warm weather we been getting here in nj for the past few days now...i'll post some pics as soon as get my new rig...

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    Looks solid! Can't wait to see the pix

    Lots of new Epiphanies on the board. I was skeptical when I saw the price, but it hasn't detered the faithful.

    Enjoy!

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    I have pretty much the same built exept for the fox talas
    the wheels and the brakes
    I think you should go for better brakes ( hope mono mini or magura or juicy carbon)

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    Thinking about the same bike. Who did you buy from? Did you choose based on price, service, location?

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    Cool-blue Rhythm

    I hope you post photos of your rig when you get it!

    I just bought an Ellsworth Epi mail order and I HIGHLY recommend rbikes.com if you don't have a good LBS to buy an Elli from. They have a price range of very well thought out build kits and Mike and Adam there are amazing for their long distance customer service and good bike advice.

    I just got my Epi last week, pulled it out of the box and had it rideable in a hour or two after work....unfortunately we have had TORRENTIAL downpours ever since I got it, except for a couple of hours which I ranted and raved through some required yard work (flood prevention related) instead of riding it. I am already impressed by riding it in my front yard trials course and finding some interesting challenges at the parking lot at work on my lunch break during short breaks in the rain. (Facilities group is already getting irritated at me )



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    nuthin' wrong w/ juicies IMO

    Quote Originally Posted by french man
    I have pretty much the same built exept for the fox talas
    the wheels and the brakes
    I think you should go for better brakes ( hope mono mini or magura or juicy carbon)
    I have been running juicy 5's on my AM/FR bike for nearly a year, and people that hop on my bike always comment on how powerful they are. I run 8" Fr 7" rear...they are simple and effective. Sexy, no.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad1433
    Looks solid! Can't wait to see the pix

    Lots of new Epiphanies on the board. I was skeptical when I saw the price, but it hasn't detered the faithful.

    Enjoy!
    yeah, getting this bike is pretty pricey...but i guess it's worth it...

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnduroRN
    yeah, getting this bike is pretty pricey...but i guess it's worth it...
    No worries....it's sooo worth it!

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    sounds great to me - I'm loving the 07 Vanilla's on my Epi - very stiff and soooo plush

    In fact I'm loving my Epi altogether - the best bike I've ever had,

    Can't understand why people are saying there expensive - is this just in the States ? Over here in the UK they are £1268 compared to £1750 for a Nomad frame or £1450 for a 5 Spot.

    Also Juicy 5's are great brakes - just as good as the 7's just not as pimpy !

    Here's mine out on my local trails


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    Quote Originally Posted by justa
    Can't understand why people are saying there expensive - is this just in the States ? Over here in the UK they are £1268 compared to £1750 for a Nomad frame or £1450 for a 5 Spot.
    The price you pay on the Epi is the same for us, but the Nomads and Five Spots are significantly less here. In fact, we'd pay around 890 British pounds for one. So you can see where we consider the Epiphany one the more expensive bikes. That makes the Epiphany a steal in your market! Lucky!

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    well worth it!

    Even in the USA, I don't find the Epi costing THAT much more than other "common" frames. I was comparing a built up Fuel EX9 to the Epi, based on a friend highly recommending the Fuel, and the price diff was not that much more really, by the time you climb into looking at the BMW's of bikes instead of the Kia's of bikes.

    We FINALLY had an unexpected couple hour break between storm systems on a weekend, So I took my new Epi out for "First Mud" on my local neighborhood trail system affectionately called "Willows Fjords", for its steep ravine terrain. I had one set up issue that the shop missed (SRAM XGEN front der. set too low over a bash ring....BAD combo...gouged the frame) But after I repositioned the derailleur it was all sweetness and light, max steep stuff covered with slick leaves. The bike IS incredible!

    You can have a bike that does it all, climbs like a cat, tech twisty, downhill....its ALL good!d

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    update of my epiphany...

    hello there guys, my new ellsworth epiphany is scheduled to be delivered tomorrow via UPS, and it's coming from cali...im so excited i should be riding my new rig by friday, hopefully it wont rain that day here in nj, i wish i could ride it on thanksgiving day...but im working well anyway, happy thanksgiving to everyone and dont stop HAMMERING...norm

    i'll try to post some pics soon as i get it...

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    Enduro, you're gonna LOVE it!!!! It climbs and downhills just like everyone says. Post some pics when you get them. Have fun...... MM
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    Enduro- By the way, where are you getting that bike from? Who built it? MM
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    ... and if we just ... prepare to grin!

    What color did you get?

    The more I ride my Epi, the more I like it!

    Its been literally record breaking rains since the dry spell broke the day I got my Epi in my Seattle area location.

    I FINALLY got the Epi out for a good long varied ride, pretty much with this expression on my face the whole time.

    One thing to watch out for is front derailleur setup, especially if you run bash guard instead of a big ring. Setting the derailleur sloppy high is actually a good thing on this bike. Mine was set low and gouged the frame on my first ride. Best thing, after EVERYTHING is on the bike and dialed in, including adding any fender or other bits and pieces, is to deflate the shock and gently take the bike to FULL compression and make sure everything clears. The Epi just doesn't LOOK like it has as much travel as it does.

    Absolutely NO regrets on my part for spending the little bit of extra cash on an Epi instead of a "normal" bike.

    The Epi proves that one bike CAN do it all...climbs like a cat, descends like its on rails, and handles the tight technical, no problem.
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    here you go...

    hey guys, here you go, my new ellsworth epipahany...just came out of the box...i ordered it from beyondbikes...and it's gorgeous...i got it last wednesday and we have a post thanksgiving ride today...it was mudfest...it rained all day thanksgiving day here...otherwise it was a good ride though i was having some kind of hangover from last night im still feeling the bike,making adjustments when necessary...overall i really enjoy this bike...enjoy guys...more pics coming up...
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    more pics...

    built to rip...
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    Cool-blue Rhythm First Mud

    Good pics and an awesome bike!

    Its good to see its getting its taste of "first mud", being put to GOOD use right away, and not being pampered.

    I slipped out for a quick local ride between rain today. Trails were covered with leaves and the steep hillside is still draining pretty well, so the bike didn't get all THAT muddy, But I sure am glad I wore armour! It was slick out there!

    Dang, the Epi is niiiiiiice bike! Enjoy!
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    epiphany's first ride...

    pre and post ride epi pics...it's an awesome rig...but i guess the real first test ride of this bike will be tomorrow...when i dont have a hangover
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    Good job! ridin' Clean

    Somehow I have lucked out on keeping the Epi clean after a couple of rides, even with record breaking rains in our area. This is a mid-ride shot from today, and it was only slightly more splattered by the end of the ride. I have been finding trails that are low traffic and are covered by leaves.....that luck won't last.

    BTW, I have been trying Eagle 1 "Wax as you dry" on the anodized finish and most of the bike. It seems to be working out well. It doesn't make it look all "waxy" but mud doesn't stick as well and it seems to clean off easier.

    I have been using the E1 WAYD on my Honda Element for years, which has a challenge of metal and semi-matte plastic that has some sheen. Of course I haven't put it to a REAL torture test on the Epi....yet.....
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    here's another pic of my muddy epi... sorry guys, having trouble uploading pics right now...i'll try again later...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Twisted Trail
    Somehow I have lucked out on keeping the Epi clean after a couple of rides, even with record breaking rains in our area. This is a mid-ride shot from today, and it was only slightly more splattered by the end of the ride. I have been finding trails that are low traffic and are covered by leaves.....that luck won't last.

    BTW, I have been trying Eagle 1 "Wax as you dry" on the anodized finish and most of the bike. It seems to be working out well. It doesn't make it look all "waxy" but mud doesn't stick as well and it seems to clean off easier.

    I have been using the E1 WAYD on my Honda Element for years, which has a challenge of metal and semi-matte plastic that has some sheen. Of course I haven't put it to a REAL torture test on the Epi....yet.....

    What is that mysterious headset assembly?

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    that's a great pic.

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    Nice

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    Quote Originally Posted by EnduroRN
    here's another pic of my muddy epi... sorry guys, having trouble uploading pics right now...i'll try again later...
    here it is...today's ride was awesome, nice day...temp in the 50's...sunny...enjoy...
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    Good job!

    Great looking bike !! I plan on having one of those built up by the end of winter, I just hope they climb as well as everyone is saying they do.. Ride on....

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    weird headset

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    What is that mysterious headset assembly?
    That is my "nard guard" as they have been called. Keeps me from bashing knees and other odds and ends into the stem....or at least takes the edge off the hits.

    Its worked well on my last couple of bikes and is at least more discreet than SOME options. Its a short section of pipe insulation, with a velcro wrap. It just weighs a couple of grams.

    As one of my t-shirts says "Been there, broke that" and at 54 I am finally deciding to reduce the impact a bit.

    Re: "i hope the climbing...."
    yes the Epi climbs like a squirrel. It takes a bit of a different style to get over some stuff than my Epic quasi-hardtail, but I am cleaning climbs I couldn't make on my Klein hardtail or the Epic, both of which are known for their climbing ability. You wouldn't think something with all this travel would climb this well, but it does. And I really don't notice any pedal bob.
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    it looks to me...

    ....like the balance of this bike is a little off in these pictures. The front end seems really high (anybody know if the A to C is the same for Float and TALAS?)...and i guess the seat seems low in comparison, and really far forward.

    Please dont take this as criticism, its jsut the impression i got from the pictures. And it helps to reassure me that i was lucky to finally find one last 06 Vanilla on the market.

    Currently i have been using an 02 Vanilla 125 and i am loving it. I have been stressing a little over cranking that up another 15mm with an 07...the bike handles so freaking well right now, i have been worried about making the front too tall and slack.

    In Canada anyway, everybody is saying that itll be late January before any more Vanilla's or Floats hit the market.

    Personally i think the 06's look waaaay better than the 07's anyway.

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    thumbies - hey your entitled to your opinion !

    All I would say is that the 07 Vanilla on my Epi feels perfect - if you want an out an out XC machine buy a Truth,

    Also theb 07 Vanilla is so much better damped, controlled and miles stiffer than the 06 version...

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    sour grapes...

    ...hey maybe its just me trying to convince myself that what i am finally getting is what i actually wanted

    No, in truth i have been pretty worried that 140 mm is a little long/ tall. After all, the Epi was built around a 130 mm fork wasnt it? And with the lightness of the frame etc. it seemed sensible to not put the added stress on it that a 140mm+ fork does.

    I have not seen much feedback on the 07 vs. 06 Vanilla, though i am sure that it is a little stiffer. I did not know that they really improved the damping that much...i wonder how?

    as for the looks of the 07 Vanilla, i would say that it is more than just understated, more like they went out of their way to make it dull. Having said that, looks are pretty much at the bottom of my list of important things, but still a factor i guess.

    Justa, do you have a pic of your Epi with the Vanilla in the Ellsworth forum somewhere? I did a search and came up with an Epi with a Pike.

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    thumbies - according the Ellsworth website the Epi is suitable for 130-140mm forks - Freeborn the importers in the UK confirmed this when I bought my Epi,

    I know, however, that guru and What Mountain Bike writer Steve Worland has an Epi and changed the forks on his to some 120mm forks as he preferred this for his style of riding.

    The 07 Vanilla's are much more progressive than other Fox forks I've tried and they don't 'spike'.

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    let me eat...

    ...my words. That fork looks GREAT! especially on the Black frame, which i prefer over my own nebula blue (here i go again witht he sour grapes

    can you better describe what you mean by progressive. Do you mean rising rate where deeper into the travel it requires more force for a given unit of travel?

    Also what do you mean by 'spike'. I'm guessing that this is a sharp increase in compression damping. (i dont mind your terminology i just want to be on the same page).

    Have you used coil-sprung (ie. Vanilla) Fox forks inthe past or only air sprung (Float and TALAS)?

    I love my 02 Vanillas, however it is the 'newest' fork i have ever used, so things may have changed a bit in the last 4 years (though i thought Fox was pretty unchanged till 07).

    I prolly would have been very happy with the 07 Vanilla, but i have grown very tired of waiting (i ordered it Sept. 8 and it was supposed to be a 2 week wait not end of January). I need the old Vanilla for my 'beater' bike an 01 Stinky.

    This time of year (Nov till March) most of our riding is focused on one trail network which is all rock and no elevation gain. I really dont feel like beating the crap out of my new Epi. in this environment, especially with the wet and mud thrown in.

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    bugger - replied to this than the system crashed and lost it all

    Compared to the 05 Vanilla I had the 07 fork doesn't dive through its travel , its more progressive and controlled.

    What I mean by Spike is that 'uh oh' feeling you get when you hit something very hard and the fork dives and returns quite violently - Some Maverick DUC's i had did this pad quite badly. The 07 forks again are just nicely controlled..

    I have used Coil Pikes, Marzocchi's and for me the 07 Vamilla's are the best combination of stiffness, weight and plush-ness !!

    I hope that makes sense ! The first version was better but I can't be bothered to typr it all again !!

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