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    Id California Edition

    does this frame have special geometry or only a lower BB height due to the Fox air shock?

    can´t find any info on ellsworth´ site...

    thanks!
    Less is more when more is not enough...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracer
    does this frame have special geometry or only a lower BB height due to the Fox air shock?

    can´t find any info on ellsworth´ site...

    thanks!
    Quick search on "California" in the Ellsworth forum yielded this:

    Some new ID flavah for ya

    Geometry is not "special" just slackened slightly due to lowering the BB.
    Nothing to see here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracer
    does this frame have special geometry or only a lower BB height due to the Fox air shock?

    can´t find any info on ellsworth´ site...

    thanks!
    Yep, just a shorter I-2-I shock (7.5") reduces BB and slackens head angle slightly.

    You can play this game a little with a standard Id by allowing more sag and upping the compression damping so it won't bottom out.

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    If you have the AVA standard shock you can decrease the air volume to prevent bottoming out with a lower air pressure. Increasing the dampening just reduces ride quality IMHO. I have the AVA on the next-to-lowest setting and it feel's more progressive and almost never bottoms out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tracer
    does this frame have special geometry or only a lower BB height due to the Fox air shock?

    can´t find any info on ellsworth´ site...

    thanks!

    I was looking for the difference between Moment and ID and found the following (differences between Moment vs ID vs ID cal) on MTBR,

    Id and Id California vs. Moment

    not sure if it is exactly what you are after but it will go some way to explain the differences.

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    shorter shock's effect on seat angle

    I just finished building an 04 Id and it has the standard i2i lenght shock. I was curios to see what effects(shorter cal. edition) people have noticed this having on the Id's climbing by slackening the seat angle. Also does any one know the new geometry numbers seat and head angles with the shorter shock? I will be using a Talus fork.
    Thanks for any info

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