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    FR 180 Wish list

    I know the pros at Ellsworth are gonna make a frigid sweet ride but figured a little imput from the peanut gallery never hurts and can help kill time till the final bike is ready.

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    Please Please Please do a Straight 1.5 HT.

    Tapered headtubes have no place on a park bike. Just an opinion.
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    I agree with you on that. Straight 1.5 to allow maximum geometry change using anglesets.

    180mm medium BB height (14 inch max) and slackish angles, approx 65 degrees. That way using an angleset you can slacken it out to 63 degrees as a DH orientated park bike with a nice low BB or steepen it to 67 degrees as a big travel all mountain ride.

    Fitting the head tube with pinch bolts to allow easy removing of the upper headset cup would be a nice touch too.

    Absolutely definately a proper bolt through rear axle. Maxle or similar would be good.

    This could be a killer bike!!

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    Sounds good Nsynk.

    Chainguide mounts and ability to run a double crank. Full length seatpost also.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Knext!
    Question?

    What is imput?

    Imput is what happens when I'm typing fast and hit the wrong key.

    If you go over to the Turner forum the ole beer bellied Homers will keep you plenty busy with corrections. They are 8 times worse than me.
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    I am really slow on the uptake...
    Can someone fill me in?

    FR180?
    Is this the new DARE? Or something tween the DARE and moment?
    Thanks and sorry for the late arrival to the game!

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    Quote Originally Posted by boone
    I am really slow on the uptake...
    Can someone fill me in?

    FR180?
    Is this the new DARE? Or something tween the DARE and moment?
    Thanks and sorry for the late arrival to the game!

    the fr180 is a replacement for the rogue

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    I want non-adjustable 150x12mm dropouts with 83mm bb.
    I want adjustable travel via shock change.
    I want ISCG 05.
    I want 1.5 headtube.
    I want it to be 9lbs inc shock.

    I want it now! or should I go for Dare?

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    could be interesting

    to see a new 7 inch bike from ellsworth - however, I wonder if they are going to continue with their steep head angles and make a 180mm 67 degree HA bike????????

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    Quote Originally Posted by yohyat
    to see a new 7 inch bike from ellsworth - however, I wonder if they are going to continue with their steep head angles and make a 180mm 67 degree HA bike????????
    From a post I remember reading it sounds more like they are gonna follow current park bike trends. I have no idea what they plan on but if they are looking at bikes like the specy SX we could have something pretty nice coming.
    66degree HT and sub 14" BB would be nice.
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    The current Rogue when specced with an 8.5 x 2.5 shock has a 66 degree head angle and a 14.25 inch bb height with approx 185mm travel. For me that is still too high and steep. However I just received an angleset headset from www.ofanaim.net. and with that fitted my HA will be 64.7 degrees and BB 13.5 inch !!! I don't think I will be needing the fr180 !!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by toHELLuRIDE
    From a post I remember reading it sounds more like they are gonna follow current park bike trends. I have no idea what they plan on but if they are looking at bikes like the specy SX we could have something pretty nice coming.
    66degree HT and sub 14" BB would be nice.

    66 deg head angle with Angleset plus/minus 1 or 1.5 deg as stock spec.
    BB 14" or slightly lower is the target
    WB 43.5 - 44.5

    Welding this week, next week to heat treat and build, no time for ano, but two (1) sm (1) lng should make it to Sea Otter

    The first protos will not have the through axle rear, but they should follow in the next month

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    still seems behind the curve

    66HA - thats AM by today's standards 44 in WB - thats AM.
    Look like Ellsworth is sticky to their old - "3 year behind" geo....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bike Zen
    66 deg head angle with Angleset plus/minus 1 or 1.5 deg as stock spec.
    BB 14" or slightly lower is the target
    WB 43.5 - 44.5

    Welding this week, next week to heat treat and build, no time for ano, but two (1) sm (1) lng should make it to Sea Otter

    The first protos will not have the through axle rear, but they should follow in the next month

    Ok by implication that means it has a tapered head tube not 1.5, otherwise you would have said 2 degree adjustment with an angleset.

    Actually that is not bad stats for a big AM/FR bike. Slackening it off to 64.5 with a correspondingly lower BB is enough for most bike park stuff. If you need it slacker then buy a DH bike.

    I see the Ellsworth newsletter put something out at the same time you posted too

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    Quote Originally Posted by yohyat
    66HA - thats AM by today's standards 44 in WB - thats AM.
    Look like Ellsworth is sticky to their old - "3 year behind" geo....
    Those sound like pretty good 180mm travel bike numbers to me.
    You want slacker, longer...maybe they be building a true DH bike mate?
    This does not sounds like a true DH bike to me.

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    Quick Pic

    More next week....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bike Zen
    More next week....
    Whoa dang!
    Interesting ST design.
    Also, I don't see an upper rocker type mount? Just not on there yet?
    Thanks for sharing the love!!

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    wow . V different?. Interupted seat tube, that's new for Ells and whats with the double tapered headtube? 1.5 top and bottom but narrow in the centre, mm interesting indeed.

    Thanks for posting David.

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    going back to the thought of names. How about ZEN !

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    more pics of the frame over at pinkbike

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    Quote Originally Posted by boone
    Whoa dang!
    Interesting ST design.
    Also, I don't see an upper rocker type mount? Just not on there yet?
    Thanks for sharing the love!!

    +1!
    I'd hit it, but I bruise like a peach.

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    I'd hit it, but I bruise like a peach.

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    Interesting.
    Obviously not too much to look at till it's finished. Wonder if this will still double as a Black diamond trial bike? (Climbable for the local DH runs) Or is it gonna be specific to the Lifts?

    I look forward to the finished product.

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    More Pics

    Happy Monday
    Here is a couple more pics that will give you more detail about upper pivot location, etc.
    Now we are ready for alignment and final age.
    Next, on to testing
    David
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    Can't wait to see the rockers for this thang!!!
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    The prototype does not match the drawing. The drawing has a straight seat tube. personally I like the straight tube better.

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