# Thread: Formula to roughly estimate DHX spring weight needed.

1. ## Formula to roughly estimate DHX spring weight needed.

Playing around with my DHX 5.0 and think I may have a general formula to determine recommended coil spring weight.

Rider = riding weight with camelback + everything else
Distribution = rider weight distribution ratio on bike (I go with 2/3's)
Saddle = estimated weight on seat
Across = riding weight across lever
Shock = shock travel
Bike = bike travel
Leverage = leverage ratio for rear travel
Coil = coil spring weight
Sag = shock travel sag %

Leverage = Bike/Shock
Leverage = 6"/2.25"
Leverage = 2.6666666666

Rider = 208lbs + 16lbs Camelback
Rider = 224lbs

Across = 149.3333333333333lbs * 2.66666666666666666
Across = 398.22222222222222222lbs

NoPreTrav = Across/Coil
NoPreTrav = 398.222222222222222lbs / 650lbs/inch
NoPreTrav = 0.612649"

Sag = NoPrevTrav / Shock
Sag = .612649" / 2.25"
Sag = 0.2722884 = 27.22884%

The Preload dial on the top of the DHX 5.0 coil spring after being turned 2 full rotations, which is the maximum recommended by Fox to prevent coil bind, compresses the spring about .08". Take .08 / 2.25 and you end up with .0355555555555 which = 3.5%. So the preload adjuster is good for removing up to 3.5% of the sag safely.

So for the example above I weigh 208lbs and wear a 16lbs Camelback. I estimated that 2/3's of my weight rests on the saddle. I also used a 2.25" travel shock on a 6" travel bike. This when factored in with the rest of the formula means that a 650lbs coil would give me 27% sag with zero preload. With full preload I go down to about 24% sag. A 600lbs spring gives me 29.5% sag without preload. I can get this one down to 26% sag with full preload.

So you get the picture. This scheme should work with just about any bike as long as you know your riding weight, weight distribution on the bike, shock travel, suspension travel, and spring weight.

This scheme should work with just about any bike as long as you know your riding weight, weight distribution on the bike, shock travel, suspension travel, and spring weight.
Looks good to me. It also appears if you couldn't get the right sag with a given spring, you could work backwards to find out your actual weight distribution and then calculate the correct spring you needed with that value.

3. I ahva a program that takes all of your inputs into account and gives you spring weights for different sags....Send me a pm if you want it.

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