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    Ellsworth ID frame

    What is the history, and geometry of the Ellsworth ID frame? thanks

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    The Id was an early attempt at making a long travel trail bike. basically it was the truth with longer shocks. Problem was they tried to go too big, using a 200 x 57 rear shock giving just under 150mm travel and a 150mm marzocchi z150 fork, it became too tall. Geometry was fairly steep in angles with a 69.5 degree head angle but the BB was nearly 15 inches high.

    Ells then introduced the California version, reducing the travel to 133mm using a 190 x 51 shock lowered the bb by 3/4 inch and slackened the angles 1 degree when coupled with a 130mm fork. Still quite tall by todays standards but Ells always do tend to be tall.

    I have an 2004 ID california and I love it for rugged xc, it weighs around 26lb and feels fast and pedals well on tech terrain, I mostly use it for rugged xc rides in the moors rather than trail centres etc, it is still going strong after 6 years.

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    Thank you for such an informative response. That was just the type of information I was looking for!

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    pleasure

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    Regarding Id also. I'm using 140mm fork with 200 x 57mm shox. I'm thinking of changing the shox to 190 x 51 but still use 140mm fork. Can you tell me the head angle?

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    approx 68 degrees

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    Got it. Thanks.

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    I am not at home (in Scotland with my moment!!) when I get back I will use a phone app to measure it as accurately as possible.

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