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    2007 Ellsworth's

    Posted up some 07 ellsworth's from interbike + more. check it out
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    Bravo Tony
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    I love the Epiphany in pink
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    What no Chaos?
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    Here's Francois' pix of the 29" Enlightenment:
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    Thanks for the link mtb biker. Those were some blinged out E's! The pink Epiphany is Hawt!

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    Did you not see the new Ellsworth Wheels????

    I was able to speak to Tony regarding some new wheels that they have designed and will have out in a couple of months. (Still in production and will have them ready to ship in a few months to consumers). He has several styles of wheels including a Carbon Fiber wheelset for the XC types. None of the actual rims were UST style, but with a rim strip and some Stan's No-Tubes, you'll be good to go. I also noticed that the spokes have no "J" bend to them as the hubs are similar to a Cane Creek style or new Mavic style with the straight spokes. 3-pawl ratchet system and very, very sweet looking as well as incredibly light. Just the right bling to complete your ride! (They came in a XC wheelset, Carbon wheelset and Enduro wheelset.)
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    This may be the reason there`s no Chaos:

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    Or this!
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    Atlas bikes are still in the works. You can get the pink color on any of the ICT bikes $50 of the purchase price goes to cancer research. Also if you are a breast cancer survivor they will etch the words "survivor" on the top tube along with the ribbon. These bikes take 4-6 weeks to get and must be paid in full at the time you order.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonsocal
    I was able to speak to Tony regarding some new wheels that they have designed and will have out in a couple of months. (Still in production and will have them ready to ship in a few months to consumers). He has several styles of wheels including a Carbon Fiber wheelset for the XC types. None of the actual rims were UST style, but with a rim strip and some Stan's No-Tubes, you'll be good to go. I also noticed that the spokes have no "J" bend to them as the hubs are similar to a Cane Creek style or new Mavic style with the straight spokes. 3-pawl ratchet system and very, very sweet looking as well as incredibly light. Just the right bling to complete your ride! (They came in a XC wheelset, Carbon wheelset and Enduro wheelset.)
    Man...carbon XC wheels!! I'm not sure I'd trust them usless they have one heck of a replacement policy.
    Any specs on the weight of any of the wheelsets? Is Ells making the hubs too? Disc?

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    Ellsworth Ride

    I figured I would make my contribution to the Interbike report. Here are pics of the much talked about "Ride". It looked pretty slick, definately a very nice cruiser. I'm still not convinced I want a very nice cruiser. I just need to get to the bar, thats all.

    I did get a chance to try the NuVinci hub. It rode smooth and shifted smooth. A few gripes: the shifter isn't as easy to use as it could be. The rubber is a bit soft and there isn't much tread or shape to it, making it hard to grip and turn. I don't know how it performed on the road, I only got to try it on a trainer indoors. And we are going to do it Bob Barker style now: the person who can come closest to guessing the weight without going over wins shock and amazement.

    So the first pic is the high end Ride with carbon fork, bars, fender and NuVinci hub. You'll also notice that its sporting a belt drive (which is actually all plastic, not rubber like your engine's belts). The second pic is the lower end Ride that is all aluminum and more conventional components.

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    The carbon wheels have been tested over the last season and have performed really well. The hubs are very smooth and the free hub works like a swiss watch.
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    disappointing

    good to see the boys at Ellsworth putting there efforts into the 07 product line....cruisers!?!?!?!?

    and does this mean they will take the bikes from the 06 line-up that are never going to be produced and remove the "coming soon" or "in development" crap off the site.

    how is there no specialist?

    stop with the chaos already, it's fugly and really should have never replaced the joker.

    I got an idea, you have 3, 4 lightweight xc style bikes.

    how about a DH rig?
    the 05 Dare is an amazing frame and still none for this season?

    I guess it's all too apparent where the focus at Ellsworth is now.

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    Whats with the beach cruisers.


    comming to a WAL MART near you.........Ellsworth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by offtheedge
    good to see the boys at Ellsworth putting there efforts into the 07 product line....cruisers!?!?!?!?

    and does this mean they will take the bikes from the 06 line-up that are never going to be produced and remove the "coming soon" or "in development" crap off the site.

    how is there no specialist?

    stop with the chaos already, it's fugly and really should have never replaced the joker.

    I got an idea, you have 3, 4 lightweight xc style bikes.

    how about a DH rig?
    the 05 Dare is an amazing frame and still none for this season?

    I guess it's all too apparent where the focus at Ellsworth is now.
    There was a Specialist on that first link. I agree, they've got some gaps to fill in...

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    Gap filled..

    Quote Originally Posted by chad1433
    There was a Specialist on that first link. I agree, they've got some gaps to fill in...

    Thats what Turner is for!
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    Beechcruisers...dropping MTB hopefully in the near future? One can only hope

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    Yep, same impression for me, really don't like it.
    I have a Rogue, thinking to switch to a Cove, closer to my philosophy.
    One was saying that Ells is becoming a "yuppies" brand, start to believe he was right...

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    Quote Originally Posted by offtheedge
    good to see the boys at Ellsworth putting there efforts into the 07 product line....cruisers!?!?!?!?

    and does this mean they will take the bikes from the 06 line-up that are never going to be produced and remove the "coming soon" or "in development" crap off the site.

    how is there no specialist?

    stop with the chaos already, it's fugly and really should have never replaced the joker.

    I got an idea, you have 3, 4 lightweight xc style bikes.

    how about a DH rig?
    the 05 Dare is an amazing frame and still none for this season?

    I guess it's all too apparent where the focus at Ellsworth is now.
    offtheedge, have to agree with you all round really. Have a Nicolai on order. So wanted another Ellsworth, nothing to replace the Dare or carry on with it..... The wheels looks sh!t hot, but the company is about frames is it not, ge tthe backbone sorted, then diversify to other components. It has got tiring seeing coming soon all over the website, the definition of soon is not a long time to me, it has been an age Tony, come on bro...
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    at least now I know 2 things for certain:
    1) I'll never sell the Dare frame
    2) IronHorse in 07

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    Quote Originally Posted by offtheedge
    1) I'll never sell the Dare frame
    Hear ya, I F...ed up selling my Dare. Was too early back into my riding to really appreciate, makes me pee blood thinking about it...............

    I am still more or less speechless as to the path it seems Ellsworth is heading, not that me worrying effects them, but it is a real shame......
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    I think maybe everyone is overlooking the fact that Ellsworth just built a new building and has developed some very nice bikes for '07. Plus, they're not going to produce model years anymore, so you might see a Dare (which really is the ONLY bike everyone here is upset about) in the spring or summer (I dunno).

    There's a new line of 29" bikes and while they don't appeal to most here, they are a growing segment of the bike world. While I don't get the cruiser market, it too seems to be a growing segment in some circles. I'm sure there's money to be made. Ventana has been making them for a few years now. Electra bikes makes ONLY cruisers, so obviously, someone is out there buying them. Plus, the Nuvinci hub seems pretty innovative - more work needs to be done on eliminating that pesky drivetrain we all have on the back of our bikes.

    Wheels I could do without because there are so many good wheel/parts makers out there right now. This could be a segment that they won't do too well in, but like Specialized doing their own things, I bet they'll stock them on proprietary builds. Also, in some pix, I did see some new clothing in the background, which was hinted at earlier this year. All in all, there's really a lot going on. I guess it's all a matter of perspective.

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    Hey all,

    Just a few points to throw in here. The ride is indeed a wild one. It is targeted at a few groups, First, it is the Ells owner who wants to go someplace in town or to coffe or to whatever and steill be sporting both the brand and have the wicked-set piece of machinery while doing it. Second, it is for the person (wew have had lots of calls about this over the years for custom stuff) who does not want a road bike and does not want a MTB but wants a high end cycling experience. This is not a cruiser (ha you say) it gets up and rides like the bike that you had when you were 13 and loved to just ride your bike. The Nuvinci hub is the first true change in a bike transmission in a bunch of years (we think 158 but haven't confirmed that) and every part except for the brake and the crank arms wer made one off just for this bike. It may not be for you but since we have sold almost every one of the signature series and they haven't even been made yet, they must be fore someone.

    The single pivot story is this: we have been researching a way to make the Atlas rear srtong, inexpensive and light (three mutually exclusive qualities as you know) and that is tough as hell. Right now we are experimenting with a billit piece but it is really big money which does not fit in with these bikes' price point in the market so on we go trying to get this part right. I owned a distance way before I worked here and I just love those bikes, we have lots and lots of people waiting for the Chaos so it is not that we aren't trying to make it but fitting all three of those puzzle pieces together is a bear. Stay tuned though.

    To save you a phone call, the Enlighenments,and the Evolve will be out at the end of the year and the wheels (they are so stiff it is nutty) will be complete in November.

    Cheers.

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    Chad, I totally understand and agree with you about the new facility situation, but coming soon for a whole season just looks bad.

    My concern isn't with the Dare frame or lack there of, it's with the overall position the company has taken on the gravity sector of the market. The direction and the focus Ellsworth has taken clearly shows a bias towards XC and thatís fine. They should and I'm sure will pursue the most profitable and self gratifying sector of MTBing. That's good business, but in that decision they have to realize that by putting a low(er) priority on DH/FR they will sour many riders in those disciplines wanting to buy frame from a company that supports them. Ellsworth obviously doesn't have much interest in that scene other than selling Rogue frames. Come on, if you show up to Interfile with "cruisers" and no DH frame, enough said.


    Dave, first thank you for sticking your neck into this thread. It does look much better to know you or any employee of any company is willing to enter a forum......good or bad.

    As far as the Atlas/single pivot rears are concerned I just have to ask how this is difficult.
    There are a ton of companies putting out single pivot frames with acceptably stiff rear ends.
    Morewood, Orange, Santa Cruz, Ironhorse, to name just a few. Seems to me that wheel has been re-invented many times.


    I'm not bi*t*hing here either. I think Tony and his company should do whatever they feel is right, but I will be shopping bikes from a company that is more committed to my style of riding next year.

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    I think this question is still on topic...

    Has the newly redesigned "07" Moment, been released yet? I haven't heard ANY chatter on this yet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by offtheedge
    Chad, I totally understand and agree with you about the new facility situation, but coming soon for a whole season just looks bad.

    My concern isn't with the Dare frame or lack there of, it's with the overall position the company has taken on the gravity sector of the market. The direction and the focus Ellsworth has taken clearly shows a bias towards XC and thatís fine. They should and I'm sure will pursue the most profitable and self gratifying sector of MTBing. That's good business, but in that decision they have to realize that by putting a low(er) priority on DH/FR they will sour many riders in those disciplines wanting to buy frame from a company that supports them. Ellsworth obviously doesn't have much interest in that scene other than selling Rogue frames. Come on, if you show up to Interfile with "cruisers" and no DH frame, enough said.


    Yet, Josh Bender is now a signed Ellsworth rider...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad1433
    Yet, Josh Bender is now a signed Ellsworth rider...

    go figure

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad1433
    Yet, Josh Bender is now a signed Ellsworth rider...
    Chad, dude, that is a lame one from you, didnt expect that.... That has nothing to do with what segment of frame Ellsworths is focussing on. Josh Bender does not ride frames cause he has a passion for a frame builder, it is for mulla, doe rae me, dosh. It will be said otherwise, but come on......

    I too am pleased Dave that you have come on and let us know your thoughts. No one was at all gettign at Ellsworth as a compnay. We know a new plant has been built etc. But the focus has moved away from FR/DH, which is your business call.

    Its all good, and yes those cruiser do look the ducks nuts, but I would like to see the coming soon words filled before wheels and cruisers are the thing....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whafe
    Chad, dude, that is a lame one from you, didnt expect that.... That has nothing to do with what segment of frame Ellsworths is focussing on. Josh Bender does not ride frames cause he has a passion for a frame builder, it is for mulla, doe rae me, dosh. It will be said otherwise, but come on......
    I'm not noting this to show Josh Bender's allegiances, I'm noting it to demonstrate Ellsworth's mindset. To pay a rider like this to ride your bikes must show some dedication to the FR/DH market.

    I expect that the bikes and this rider have not yet been revealed, suggesting bigger things to come. Or, maybe they just like him and want to pay him to ride their bikes...

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    Quote Originally Posted by chad1433
    I'm not noting this to show Josh Bender's allegiances, I'm noting it to demonstrate Ellsworth's mindset. To pay a rider like this to ride your bikes must show some dedication to the FR/DH market.

    I expect that the bikes and this rider have not yet been revealed, suggesting bigger things to come. Or, maybe they just like him and want to pay him to ride their bikes...
    Agree with the mindset part from Ellsworth but he has been signed for sometime, what is the use in him promoting FR/DH if they do not have any products for this market apart from the Rogue..... They could be paying him so no one else can have him

    It is just a little sad for me to not see these models hit the stores or website. Stuck behind Ellsworth in New Zealand where they were about as known personally as a jiant unknown thing, stuck with them even with all the sh!t I got from people, didnt bother me, would like to ride one again one day..... But not at present, nothing in the lineup for maw....

    Still think the Id I had was a fan f..ing tastic bike, climbed and went hard it did......
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    Quote Originally Posted by chad1433
    I'm not noting this to show Josh Bender's allegiances, I'm noting it to demonstrate Ellsworth's mindset. To pay a rider like this to ride your bikes must show some dedication to the FR/DH market.

    I expect that the bikes and this rider have not yet been revealed, suggesting bigger things to come. Or, maybe they just like him and want to pay him to ride their bikes...

    nah, i'm not buying it. Bender isn't the freak of nature he was 5 years ago. Hell, the stuff the FRers were and are doing are incorrporated into DH race coarses now. Just going big had it's time and now we've moved on, i.e. bike parks and slopestyle events. I haven't seen his name on any of those bills. That and the fact he is riding a Dare( i believe) and it is an all out race frame. Why not sponsor someone who races.

    I do however love the fact that The Destroyer of the burliest frames on the planet is riding what e-rumor has dubbed weak sauce. Wonder if he has broken one yet?

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    Correction...

    Didn't mean to offend, and deleted the message although it's still here. I'm just not coming across the way I intended.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Futurepath
    All this griping is just annoying. Instead of griping about Ellsworth, market target, yuppie brand, etc, go buy another brand if you don't like Ellsworth. People can't just have a casual conversation about things nowadays, people have to complain about everything that's not going the way they want. Ellsworth can listen to customers but they can't read our minds for a bike. I supported Santa Cruz bikes for several years until their customer service went bad for dealers and customers. I switched to Ellsworth because their customer service is a lot better. Ellsworth has been willing to help me anytime I've needed it.

    I'm 30 and NOT in the yuppie rider classification as if it matters. At least people are riding their bikes and trying to be fit. So what if Ellworth is heading away from being a small brand to a more well known or popular brand. As long as their making nice bikes and treating their customers well than what does it matter. Would ya rather them grow in the market to have money for research for even nicer bikes or stay small and not be able do the research they want or need. Desiging, engineering, fabricating and marketing bikes is an expensive process and requires a lot of capital. I'd surely like to see Ellsworth have the capital to work on new ideas. I'm not trying to be an Ellsworth cheerleader here but I'm so sick of the complaining on these forums. I see more negative comments and griping then anything positive.

    last i read this thread was a bunch of level headed adults/Ellsworth owners talking about the company direction, not bit*hing.

    So far you are the most negative thing in here.

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    I'm not attacking people in this forum nor am I trying to cause a debate. If you look throughout the forums people are doing a lot of griping about silly matters instead of discussing bikes. Yeah, guess I'm griping too. I'll admit that.

    The comment about Ellsworth becoming a "yuppie brand" kind of struck a nerve. I just wish people wouldn't try to classify everything or other people. I'm happy just to see people ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Futurepath
    I'm not attacking people in this forum nor am I trying to cause a debate. If you look throughout the forums people are doing a lot of griping about silly matters instead of discussing bikes. Yeah, guess I'm griping too. I'll admit that.

    The comment about Ellsworth becoming a "yuppie brand" kind of struck a nerve. I just wish people wouldn't try to classify everything or other people. I'm happy just to see people ride.
    Futurepath, its all good bro, dont forget it is not young folk buying Ellsworth, it is us from mid 20's on with disposable income. Not knocking anyone at all, that is Ellsworths target market.. Have to pull you up on your post though, this was a fair and reasonable thread, no one was getting at Ellsworth, quite the opposite. We are all past or present customers whom want to purchase their frames, but the segment in the market is a no go zone for Ellsworth at present....

    Your comments are correct though, there is loads of negativity.... Hang I have a GBOXX Nicolai on order, have had my fair share of SH!T slung at me for getting a Nicolai. It was no different to when I got an Ellsworth. Water off a ducks back....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whafe
    Futurepath, its all good bro, dont forget it is not young folk buying Ellsworth, it is us from mid 20's on with disposable income. Not knocking anyone at all, that is Ellsworths target market.. Have to pull you up on your post though, this was a fair and reasonable thread, no one was getting at Ellsworth, quite the opposite. We are all past or present customers whom want to purchase their frames, but the segment in the market is a no go zone for Ellsworth at present....

    Your comments are correct though, there is loads of negativity.... Hang I have a GBOXX Nicolai on order, have had my fair share of SH!T slung at me for getting a Nicolai. It was no different to when I got an Ellsworth. Water off a ducks back....

    What frame Whafe? and not even knowing I will say......droooooooooollll!

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    Nice website Whafe! Dig it.

    I understand the issue with Ells and the freeride/ downhill segment. Living in West Virginia where freeride and downhill is popular (specifically at Snowshoe Mountain), I can see this segments points. I really enjoy my Epiphany, especially for the riding in my area. Hopefully some good ol'fashioned Ells downhill fun will come soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by offtheedge
    What frame Whafe? and not even knowing I will say......droooooooooollll!
    OTE, check my website, and go to Whafes Project Nicolai.... Scope out my new born daughter also........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Futurepath
    I understand the issue with Ells and the freeride/ downhill segment. Living in West Virginia where freeride and downhill is popular (specifically at Snowshoe Mountain), I can see this segments points. I really enjoy my Epiphany, especially for the riding in my area. Hopefully some good ol'fashioned Ells downhill fun will come soon.
    Thanks for the postives on the site Futurepath, have enjoyed doing it. Being from New Zealand and living in Spain, helps me share pictures with home etc, along with my baby Mia. And my scooters, which keep me sane..................... There will be a new Dare one day..... I said though that the GBOXX Nicolai will be my last big jumper.... Too many f..ed bones in the past.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by chad1433
    That 29er the EVOLVE looks beautiful. Am liking that alot... Same with that Enlightenment SS, had emailed Ellsworth etc about the One, but never EVER heard back...... Would have had one by now, no pun
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    Quote Originally Posted by Whafe
    OTE, check my website, and go to Whafes Project Nicolai.... Scope out my new born daughter also........

    Congrats on the beautiful girl and the TFR. site looks great.

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    Congrats on the beautiful girl and the TFR. site looks great.
    Thanks offtheedge, Man alive life changes when a baby comes, mtb is my only thing I do on my lonesome, which is a good thing, they would lock me up probly if I couldnt ride.....

    Yep looking forward to the Nicolai, have drooled over them for years, along with the internal transmissions, going to be interesting
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    The evolve is way nice! doesn't look all huge and roadbike-ish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by offtheedge
    The evolve is way nice! doesn't look all huge and roadbike-ish.
    Well put, doesnt look like a spare prick at a wedding..... I like it muchly
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    The real Truth

    Time heals all wounds and reveals all flaws. Or, it reveals one's true identity. My take on TE new 2007 line:

    Obviously, with no Dare, Chaos or Distance, Id and only the Rogue (which does not work; more on that later) TE is not catering to the hardcore freeride/DH market. Which is smart. Ellsworth bikes are not know for being the best DH'ers or Freeriders, so he sticks to what sells the most and sees the less in warranty returns. Good businessman. The Line looks sharp. Clean, easy to build (read: cheap to do) and with a premium markup. But little of substance. No new design. No new bike of relevance. No new DH or freeride bike. And don't think the Rogue is it.

    For the bike to be Freeride, it needs to be stiff, heavy and strong. The Rogue is light, flexy and despite the travel, it is NOT a North Shore machine. Compared to a Fly, a bike it is "supposedly" competing with in the marketplace, there is no comparison. The rear travel may be the same, but the end result is not. At least TE is sticking with what he knows best, and at least what he can extract the most out of the ICT patent. Smart business, but bad bike business. The Foes FXR 2:1 will outdo most of TE's line and be stronger. I will concede that the ICT is good at brake jack, but little things like that are lost on people who do not see fresh, new ideas and forward movement, and not just on bikes.

    I like the fact the finishes are excellent, but beauty, as they say, is only skin deep and in the MTB world, the skin is very thin.

    Truth be told.

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    Has anybody stopped to think that just because it wasn't at interbike doesn't mean that it's not going to be built or introduced. People have been giving them sh*t about THE RIDE. Nuvinci was going to release the drivetrain at interbike and they were the company that had the bike it went with. There was at least one bike at the booth that wasn't revealed to the public. Thats right how dare they go to interbike and not show everything. There is going to be some cool stuff coming don't right them off just yet
    www.treefortbikes.com Just lauched V2.0 with free shipping and low prices!

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    Sorry buddy.

    You do not move to a new manufacturing facility in Vancouver, Washington (far too much a coincidence for Vancouver, BC for me) and NOT make DH/true FR a focus. Foes is not the best XC bike around, but in every other arena, Foes will outdo any Ellsworth any day of the week. Having owned 2 Dares myself and 2 Flys, the Fly is much better the bike, in every way. Kind of tells you why I switched.

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    Typical company man telling the similar typical company story. Pathetic.

    Boils down to dedication, resources and care. Obviously in short supply. Funny, with everything you have said, Foes has done it and done fabulously well. I cannot understand.

    Fact is: Ellsworth has taken the easy way out. Make what is easy to make, sell and give a huge markup. You actually admit, for a hardcore bike company, that you tailor to the "about town crowd". Your post is the most lame thing I have ever read from any company, period. And to think TE actually PAID you to defend his company with this BS.

    Again, kind of why it shows I am now a Foes faithful and not Ellsworth.

    But eventually, the Truth shines through.

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