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    Winter Upgrades, Projects, And Builds

    What projects are you planning for the winter?

    I have a couple this winter.

    - a car bike carrier project...

    - And of course the previously mentioned switching to a more Monstercross type set up from the current Kaffenback.

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    A big project. A new road bike.

    The frame is going to be True Temper OX platinum. Just last night I was working out the final geometry on BikeCAD. I'm hoping to keep it close to 4 lbs. If this frame is anything like the 1st one it will be 100 hours. Haven't decided on the paint yet.

    Got the tubing a few weeks ago.

    A couple of years back I bought a carbon fiber Time fork specifically for this build.

    Earlier this week I bought a set of Mavic Ksyrium wheels. They are apparently bombproof, but it sucks that spare spokes are becoming difficult to find. These wheels may prove to be a gamble, but they have almost no hours on them so maybe I'll get lucky. The main reason I bought them is the fact the free hub will fit 11 speed cassettes.

    Perhaps today I'll receive my Force 22 gruppo. It cleared customs yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dru View Post
    The frame is going to be True Temper OX platinum. Just last night I was working out the final geometry on BikeCAD. I'm hoping to keep it close to 4 lbs. If this frame is anything like the 1st one it will be 100 hours. Haven't decided on the paint yet.
    Ooh, sounds neat! Are you welding it yourself? Either way, keep posting updates.

    All my fall projects are trail building related. If the weather cooperates, I'd like to get a few more hundred metres of singletrack in at Christie and get the pump track roughed in, finally.
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    No, not welding, fillet brazing. I'd have to be a phenomenal welder and own a Tig machine if I was welding. I wouldn't even try gas welding (oxy/acetylene) on such thin stuff.

    Gas welding more or less disappeared from industry in the 1950s, replaced by electricity.

    Fillet brazing is a very different beast; tricky to master because of the flux but almost zero chance of burning a hole in a tube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dru View Post
    No, not welding, fillet brazing. I'd have to be a phenomenal welder and own a Tig machine if I was welding. I wouldn't even try gas welding (oxy/acetylene) on such thin stuff.

    Gas welding more or less disappeared from industry in the 1950s, replaced by electricity.

    Fillet brazing is a very different beast; tricky to master because of the flux but almost zero chance of burning a hole in a tube.

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    All the more reason to post plenty of pics. I'd love a build thread!
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    Will do, GM! I pretty much have to post pictures in the frame builders forum anyways, for advice and constructive criticism from the boys over there.

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    I'm planning on building a bike up for my wife. Will be her first real mountain bike. Ordered a new old frame (new but 2006 model), and have most of the components sitting on my geared steel hard tail that has been neglected since switching to single speed just over a year ago.
    Confession: while this build is primarily to give a bike to my wife, it also reduces my current bike roster from 4 to 3, making room for something new in the future

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    I am in good shape for mountainbikes, with a pretty full quiver. Refreshing my road bike and CX bike is on the horizon. The frame cracked in November on my current steed, so I have a warranty frame coming (2014 Cervelo R5) and may upgrade the gruppo to Red 22 and Enve bar/stem. This will permit the 2011 Red gruppo to move to my CX bike, and I may also splurge on a set of Ksyrium Elites for it. But it all depends on my much my Black Ops Account can bear....
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    I have a non-bike related project on the go right now that's been keeping me quite busy. Won't be ready to spill the beans until Monday at the earliest... plus Circlip might slap my wrist again for going too far OT.
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    Winter projects:

    - Drill out the rims on two fatbikes, potentially convert them to tubeless.

    Winter upgrades:

    - Would love to upgrade the drivetrain on my fat bike. X5 just doesn't do it for me.

    Winter Builds:

    - Scott bikes is taking care of that for me. Not much I'll be able to do to improve this one. They better build it quick!

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    Forgot to add. Turning this into a usable repair stand. to freebies.




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    I am already speculating about this. One clue...has it anything to do with either of the cars currently sitting in the Monster Garage?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unglued View Post
    I am already speculating about this. One clue...has it anything to do with either of the cars currently sitting in the Monster Garage?????
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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster View Post
    ...plus Circlip might slap my wrist again for going too far OT.
    No politico then (probably) no problemo.

    I won't be able to sleep all weekend until the unveiling.

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    Winter Upgrades, Projects, And Builds-625_tt.png

    The Force 22 gruppo did show up on Friday! That 11 sp cassette bolted right up on the Ksyriums just like teh intarwebs said it would......

    This will be one long bike. I'll be cutting tubes in a few days!

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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster View Post
    I have a non-bike related project on the go right now that's been keeping me quite busy. Won't be ready to spill the beans until Monday at the earliest... plus Circlip might slap my wrist again for going too far OT.
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    Completing the final touches to finishing my yoga studio

    Next tackling the downstairs to convert it into a bike spin studio and workshop. Today we purchased 2 trainers
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    Awesome. Please keep posting. There are very few people out there that can say they built their own frame
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    Winter Upgrades, Projects, And Builds-00114.jpg

    A lot of this stuff is messy math on paper. These are the calculations for the front triangle. The free vesrsion of BikeCAD doesn't provide all the info a builder needs but the math isn't super hard to learn (again). My son was nice enough to give me a refresher a few years ago.

    The triangle is the centerlines of all the tubes and the joints are the intersections of the centerlines of those tubes. That is why my 220 mm HT shows as 142 mm on this drawing. Ditto for the other tubes.

    With these lengths, and the calculated angles at the various intersections the tubing can be prepared for mitering, although there's a bit more messy math to do in order to cut the tubes to the right length since the thickness of the tubing at the joints needs to be accounted for.

    I've also done these calcs. for the rear triangle but won't bother my readers with another page of the same stuff.

    Next up is running a miter program to create templates for cutting out the tubing. I'll get to that later in the week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dru View Post
    A big project. A new road bike.

    The frame is going to be True Temper OX platinum. Just last night I was working out the final geometry on BikeCAD. I'm hoping to keep it close to 4 lbs. If this frame is anything like the 1st one it will be 100 hours. Haven't decided on the paint yet.

    Got the tubing a few weeks ago.

    A couple of years back I bought a carbon fiber Time fork specifically for this build.

    Earlier this week I bought a set of Mavic Ksyrium wheels. They are apparently bombproof, but it sucks that spare spokes are becoming difficult to find. These wheels may prove to be a gamble, but they have almost no hours on them so maybe I'll get lucky. The main reason I bought them is the fact the free hub will fit 11 speed cassettes.

    Perhaps today I'll receive my Force 22 gruppo. It cleared customs yesterday.

    Busy, busy.
    Cool to see another EC poster who builds frames. I've been thinking of upgrading my jig and doing another this winter as well.

    Some pics from my first frame.....





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    Looks like your heat control was a bit better than mine! Seeing that photo brings back all kinds of memories about technique and how tricky the whole process is. I definitely want to upgrade my jig too, but at least I have a surface plate to work off now. I did Hugh Black a huge favour a few years back and got him a massive granite surface plate that Toyota didn't want, and he gave me his old one (the one I got him is 6' x 4' and 1400 lbs, his old one is about 3' x 2' and weighs about 250 lbs). My first frame rides straight, and I absolutely love how it works, but all kinds of little things are wrong that I missed when building it mostly because I didn't have a surface plate and didn't know entirely what to check for. My surface plate will now give me some much needed precision.

    Of course tell us what you built! Road, mountain? Your pic. is a bit of a teaser.

    Here's mine:

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    Quote Originally Posted by dru View Post
    Looks like your heat control was a bit better than mine! Seeing that photo brings back all kinds of memories about technique and how tricky the whole process is. I definitely want to upgrade my jig too, but at least I have a surface plate to work off now. I did Hugh Black a huge favour a few years back and got him a massive granite surface plate that Toyota didn't want, and he gave me his old one (the one I got him is 6' x 4' and 1400 lbs, his old one is about 3' x 2' and weighs about 250 lbs). My first frame rides straight, and I absolutely love how it works, but all kinds of little things are wrong that I missed when building it mostly because I didn't have a surface plate and didn't know entirely what to check for. My surface plate will now give me some much needed precision.

    Of course tell us what you built! Road, mountain? Your pic. is a bit of a teaser.

    Here's mine:

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    It was a 26er mountain bike. Did alot of destruction testing on that frame and learned alot from it. Built another that had some wonky geometry (oops). I'm ready for number 3 now. Want to build myself a nice 29er hardtail with short stays. I don't have any pictures of the bike built up unfortunately.

    Yours looks great.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unglued View Post
    I am in good shape for mountainbikes, with a pretty full quiver. Refreshing my road bike and CX bike is on the horizon. The frame cracked in November on my current steed, so I have a warranty frame coming (2014 Cervelo R5) and may upgrade the gruppo to Red 22 and Enve bar/stem. This will permit the 2011 Red gruppo to move to my CX bike, and I may also splurge on a set of Ksyrium Elites for it. But it all depends on my much my Black Ops Account can bear....
    Before buying the Ksyrium Elites, you should check my Ksyrium ES Special Edition. They came with my S-Works bike. If you are interested in a used wheelset that is in excellent shape, let me know. Jamie Davies (from Evolution Cycles) saw the wheels and he thought they are in top shape.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unglued View Post
    I am already speculating about this. One clue...has it anything to do with either of the cars currently sitting in the Monster Garage?????
    You're close but not quite... (though I'm making some moves in that direction as well). No, the Monster "Garage" grew by one this weekend.

    While I said it wasn't cycling related, I realised that it sort of is - this "upgrade" is kinda the result of:

    a) not buying any bikes for the last 2 years
    b) not racing for the last 2 years
    c) not traveling to race for the last 2 years

    Funny how fast it all adds up! (Yes, those are snow tires on winter wheels.)

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    PS: Moar frame building pics! I really want to see some sweet mitering!
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    My upgrade addiction still persists.
    Going to upgrade parts on my Roadbike. Replacing stem, seatpost, bars with fancy carbon stuff.

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    Oh, garage monster, I would so wreck your car! In all seriousness if I could afford a Porsche I would do track days at Shannonville and Mosport guaranteed. They are by far my favourite sports car.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster View Post
    You're close but not quite... (though I'm making some moves in that direction as well). No, the Monster "Garage" grew by one this weekend.

    While I said it wasn't cycling related, I realised that it sort of is - this "upgrade" is kinda the result of:

    a) not buying any bikes for the last 2 years
    b) not racing for the last 2 years
    c) not traveling to race for the last 2 years

    Funny how fast it all adds up! (Yes, those are snow tires on winter wheels.)

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    PS: Moar frame building pics! I really want to see some sweet mitering!
    I thoroughly approve. The 911 is not just a car -it is a driving icon. Congratulations! I'm guessing it's a 2006 or 2007? My only question is whether you are going to start driving Mrs Monster's Fit now she has this.....

    BTW I actually rode past your house on Sydenham yesterday and saw the car parked outside so I am not completely surprised by this. Obviously, I didn't want to give away the surprise by posting about it, though.
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    Congrats on the new addition GM. That looks very sweet. I too have always had a soft spot for Porches. As to bikes, I am surprisingly not doing much this winter even though I have a a bit of cash and an itching for some kind of gravel grinder. After I posted up here and all the discussion about these bikes, my itch calmed down a bit and I am going to bide my time and see what comes out in the next year or so. In the meanwhile, I will be saving up just in case I really NEED a custom titanium build.
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    When buying a Porsche, what would be best method? Permission or Forgiveness?

    I'm familiar with both processes, depending on the value and "category" of the purchase, I tend to switch up my method. Curious what works best for a five figured acquisition? (A 911 is in a different league than my snowblower...)

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    I am also liking the idea of a set of Enve bars and stem for my singlespeed...
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Todd- View Post
    When buying a Porsche, what would be best method? Permission or Forgiveness?
    I wouldn't exactly call it "permission" since Mr. Monster is a grown up. However, there was much logical discussion of budgeting.

    Forgiveness would not have been an option.

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    are you going to get a roof rack for that or are the bikes going on the back?
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    Quote Originally Posted by trailtrash View Post
    are you going to get a roof rack for that or are the bikes going on the back?
    We still have the (venerable) Element for bike hauling duties.
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    Beautiful addition to the garage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerdgirl View Post
    I wouldn't exactly call it "permission" since Mr. Monster is a grown up. However, there was much logical discussion of budgeting.

    Forgiveness would not have been an option.
    When it's my turn to park something fast in the garage, I'm gonna try the forgiveness route. Not everyone's wife is as open minded to awesome ideas like a Porsche.

    This thread is truly inspirational!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unglued View Post
    I am also liking the idea of a set of Enve bars and stem for my singlespeed...
    Knowing you proclivity to testing the density of the floor, is that a good idea?

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    Quote Originally Posted by secret agent View Post
    As to bikes, I am surprisingly not doing much this winter even though I have a a bit of cash and an itching for some kind of gravel grinder. After I posted up here and all the discussion about these bikes, my itch calmed down a bit and I am going to bide my time and see what comes out in the next year or so. In the meanwhile, I will be saving up just in case I really NEED a custom titanium build.
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    Quote Originally Posted by -Todd- View Post
    When it's my turn to park something fast in the garage, I'm gonna try the forgiveness route. Not everyone's wife is as open minded to awesome ideas like a Porsche.

    This thread is truly inspirational!
    My Dad used to show up to the house with all sorts of new cars much to my Mom's chagrin. We've decided to do things differently at our house.
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    You are all a bunch of enablers, but what else to expect! That is a very nice ride. I have yet to throw a leg over a titanium bike like this. When I get serious, I will have to see where I can find some. Please don't start sending me links to where I can find some now. I am not sure I have enough saved up for such a beast. When I began thinking about it, it was a more modest bike. I have also been thinking of splitting the budget between a modest gravel grinder and a fat bike. I got rid of two bikes and a frame and the others are getting lonely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by secret agent View Post
    You are all a bunch of enablers, but what else to expect! That is a very nice ride. I have yet to throw a leg over a titanium bike like this. When I get serious, I will have to see where I can find some. Please don't start sending me links to where I can find some now. I am not sure I have enough saved up for such a beast. When I began thinking about it, it was a more modest bike. I have also been thinking of splitting the budget between a modest gravel grinder and a fat bike. I got rid of two bikes and a frame and the others are getting lonely.


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    Quote Originally Posted by secret agent View Post
    You are all a bunch of enablers, but what else to expect!
    Lol, I love spending other people's money!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduramil View Post
    What projects are you planning for the winter?

    I have a couple this winter.

    - a car bike carrier project...

    - And of course the previously mentioned switching to a more Monstercross type set up from the current Kaffenback.
    i don't want to talk about it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dru View Post
    A big project. A new road bike.

    The frame is going to be True Temper OX platinum. Just last night I was working out the final geometry on BikeCAD. I'm hoping to keep it close to 4 lbs. If this frame is anything like the 1st one it will be 100 hours. Haven't decided on the paint yet.

    Got the tubing a few weeks ago.

    A couple of years back I bought a carbon fiber Time fork specifically for this build.

    Earlier this week I bought a set of Mavic Ksyrium wheels. They are apparently bombproof, but it sucks that spare spokes are becoming difficult to find. These wheels may prove to be a gamble, but they have almost no hours on them so maybe I'll get lucky. The main reason I bought them is the fact the free hub will fit 11 speed cassettes.

    Perhaps today I'll receive my Force 22 gruppo. It cleared customs yesterday.

    Busy, busy.
    Ksyriums are bombproof. No worries there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster View Post
    I have a non-bike related project on the go right now that's been keeping me quite busy. Won't be ready to spill the beans until Monday at the earliest... plus Circlip might slap my wrist again for going too far OT.
    What? you are counselling Rob Ford?
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    Quote Originally Posted by biggie View Post
    the theo ii project????
    show me the video!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by CptSydor View Post
    Winter projects:

    - Drill out the rims on two fatbikes, potentially convert them to tubeless.

    Winter upgrades:

    - Would love to upgrade the drivetrain on my fat bike. X5 just doesn't do it for me.

    Winter Builds:

    - Scott bikes is taking care of that for me. Not much I'll be able to do to improve this one. They better build it quick!
    mmmm... fat bike...

    but i can't talk about it...
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    Already made my first Winter upgrade to my Winter upgrade: an Evenflo SureRide/Titan 65. So horsepower!

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    Uh got my eyes on converting my old 26 to a 650b...Why, I don't know ( well I scored a deal on a RWS hub and my brake squeaks too dang much)?

    I've also got my eyes on fixing a broken seat-stay with a little elbow grease and a vacuum bag

    Note: these projects tend to have more educational value than "success"

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    x fusion revel and paint job .

    all the bikes seem to be good. but who could pass on a sexy inverted gold fork worth more than my first car.

    1. X- Fusion revel 29er should be here in late January
    2. Front wheel dt240 20mm/ champions on white stans flows ready to go
    3. stripping down the chromag surface and going glossy white, 1000's hours of research and numerous nights with rob ford has proved that white is the fastest.


    4. need to lower a carbon lefty 15mm, but thats not really a project

    Build kit on Chromag Surface will be around 26 pounds
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    This bike was a freebie. When Gabi saw it she was all smiles. Followed by wanting it to be more like Daddies mountain bike. It will be at least a year and a half before she is big enough for it. But she understands that for it to end up more like Daddies bike she has certain things to do.


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    I purchased new wheels for my road bike and put a suspension fork on my single speed race bike. The fork is the 2014 Fox Float FIT with remote CTD. Unfortunately due to my injured knee, all I can do is stare at my bikes.
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    Nothing crazy like some of your guys, just need to swap out the cassette and re-adjust my rear derailleur.
    If I find a good deal on a front derailleur over the winter, I might swap out my stock Alivio unit...

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    fat bike freeride

    well i've taken the plunge on a fatbike... looked at carbon, steel, ti, etc and decided i would rather stick my money in a suspension fork based rig. afterall it is so much fun doing drops, why stop in the winter.

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    Since I know my wife will soon ask what I want for Christmas....the hint was given.

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    I'll be trying to blow mine up at Hilton Falls tomorrow morning.
    Maybe. But first priority is the Monstercross version.

    And since I was telling her May as well ask for the bundle anyways.
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    You are going to put a fork on your fatty? I admit, I am a bit tempted to build a fatty, maybe with an alfine hub, since the bit of extra weight isn't a big deal on a already heavier fat bike and the less maintenance makes sense on a winter bike.

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    yup, front suspension. not to worried about weight...

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    You are going to put a fork on your fatty? I admit, I am a bit tempted to build a fatty, maybe with an alfine hub, since the bit of extra weight isn't a big deal on a already heavier fat bike and the less maintenance makes sense on a winter bike.
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    What fork is that badboy?

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    What fork is that badboy?
    there yah go...

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    I bought this neglected Giant ATX 840 with the intentions of fixing it up and doing some trail riding next year. I also bought my wife a Giant Yukon for Christmas so she could ride the trails too. Both of us are looking forward to going to Turkey Point and Christie Conservation area among other places to ride next year. Mark
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    Wasn't a planned upgrade but found a lighter fork for the Samurai mistress.

    waiting to see what On one will offer for deals on frames after Christmas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster View Post
    You're close but not quite... (though I'm making some moves in that direction as well). No, the Monster "Garage" grew by one this weekend.

    While I said it wasn't cycling related, I realised that it sort of is - this "upgrade" is kinda the result of:

    a) not buying any bikes for the last 2 years
    b) not racing for the last 2 years
    c) not traveling to race for the last 2 years

    Funny how fast it all adds up! (Yes, those are snow tires on winter wheels.)

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    I went a little nuts with upgrades this year. I picked up a Boxxer with an Avalanche cartridge, an Avalanche cartridge for my Fox float 180, two new Ti springs for rear shocks, a set of light bicycle DH rims on blue CK hubs, and the old AM light bicycle rims for my race bike. Can't wait!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduramil View Post
    Officially justified new frame purchase with two cracked chainstays. WINNING
    Wow, that's not supposed to happen to steel frames. How old is the frame - I've got the same Planet X frame.
    Maybe that's why they have a redesigned Kaffenback frame out now.

    Guess you can remove that from your signature now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slash5 View Post
    Wow, that's not supposed to happen to steel frames. How old is the frame - I've got the same Planet X frame.
    Maybe that's why they have a redesigned Kaffenback frame out now.

    Guess you can remove that from your signature now.

    Had it since End of February 2012 was when I got it. Haven't ridden it since October I think as mentioned decided to hang it up and build a Monstercrosser. Not really upset at all as I know stuff happens. Already emailed On-One UK with pics and such on the frame. Either get something or don't but if you don't try you can't complain.


    Now.....do I order a Inbred frame on the Boxing day deal or wait to see what happens in 2 days?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduramil View Post
    What projects are you planning for the winter?

    I have a couple this winter.

    - a car bike carrier project...

    - And of course the previously mentioned switching to a more Monstercross type set up from the current Kaffenback.
    converting my hardtail from 3x9 to 1x10. Looking for a new fork for the RIP9 - travel adjustable ~110-140. I'd like to upgrade the quiver to include a fat bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduramil View Post
    Now.....do I order a Inbred frame on the Boxing day deal or wait to see what happens in 2 days?
    Inbred frame is 154.99 GB shipped today. Our dollar is down - exchange rate is 1.74 so $270 plus whatever Canada Post decides to charge.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slash5 View Post
    Inbred frame is 154.99 GB shipped today. Our dollar is down - exchange rate is 1.74 so $270 plus whatever Canada Post decides to charge.
    After careful deliberation fired in the order for a Inbred 29er in a 19.5 size. Decision was made about half an hour after getting the email of the Boxing Day sale. So with a pair of El Guapo socks came in total with shipping under $220.

    Now the real fun begins tomorrow, seeing what they say about the cracks in the chain stays.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduramil View Post
    After careful deliberation fired in the order for a Inbred 29er in a 19.5 size. Decision was made about half an hour after getting the email of the Boxing Day sale. So with a pair of El Guapo socks came in total with shipping under $220.
    So you should have the frame by now. Has the build started?
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    So you should have the frame by now. Has the build started?
    Merlin has 105 brifters on sale for $150, but double only.
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    Thanks but will be going with the Retroshift CX2v. Have a set of down the shifters that will work.

    Shifters - Retroshift CX

    Not counting a small frame issue just need a fork. Keep in mind the initial build is pretty much whatever I already have floating around just to get it up and running. Then will begin the slow evolution as parts get swapped out for something that works better.

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    First ride and the evolution begins.



    Need to raise the stem up a little bit as to much weight on the front.. Definitely will be going Retroshift. Hmmm...maybe a headset? And if things workout this is the beginning of a unplanned project.

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    Warranty was given a green light. Trying to see if they would be willing to go with a Inbred 29er frame instead of another Kaffenback with fork.

    Then of course comes the size argument.... 19.5 or 21"? Keeping in mind the idea is one would be set up only with drop bars for Monstercross while the other will be for MTB. And I should say for it's size the 19.5 has lost of top tube clearance. Tried other brands that had less.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduramil View Post
    Warranty was given a green light. Trying to see if they would be willing to go with a Inbred 29er frame instead of another Kaffenback with fork.

    Then of course comes the size argument.... 19.5 or 21"? Keeping in mind the idea is one would be set up only with drop bars for Monstercross while the other will be for MTB. And I should say for it's size the 19.5 has lost of top tube clearance. Tried other brands that had less.
    So you'll have two inbreds?
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    So you'll have two inbreds?
    If they agree to the Inbred instead...Yes.

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    Well I finally got off my butt and cut some metal. As I stated late last year I'm building frame #2 this winter. The work on the first couple of joints to be brazed was today's adventure. This is an end view of the BB shell, head tube, down tube and seat tube. The tubing is stupidly thin and I'll need to practice my brazing a bit on scrap first to avoid warping the hell out of the headtube which has a wall thickness of only 1 mm. The other tubes are considerably thinner!

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    If you recall I posted some messy calculations that gave me my tubing lengths for the front triangle and the angles at which those tubes meet each other. I needed to do even more math than this to account for the diameters of the various tubes. For instance the actual cut length of the DT is 649mm not the 662mm in the drawing because the drawing shows center to center measurements.

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    The tubing diameters to be joined are entered into a miter program along with wall thickness and angle. The program spits out a paper template that you use to mark out the metal to be cut away.

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    The template is taped to the tube very carefully and then spray painted. When the paint's dry the paper is removed and you have a painted outline of your miter.

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    Then it's time to be brave!

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    Here's a shot of the hardwood blocks that protect the tubing from being crushed in the vise. They are for the seat tube. You need different sizes for each diameter of tubing. The huge chunk of metal the parts are sitting on is True North's old surface plate. I got Hugh a bigger much nicer one (1400 lbs vs 200 lbs) so he gave me his old one. I'm expecting some good vibes from the 1000's of frames he's built on it!

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    Here's the finished miter. I take a lot of pride in getting a nice tight fit with no gaps. This work would really suck without my dremel, especially for the Platinum OX stuff I'm cutting next. It is so hard it wrecks files and busts teeth out of the hacksaw.

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    Next, I'm cutting the DT miter. Once that's done I need some better weather so I can break out the torch. It would be foolhardy to the extreme to braze in the basement so my next update may be a while. All I need is near 0 C or better, no wind, and no more stupid snow!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dru View Post
    Well I finally got off my butt and cut some metal.
    ...
    I like all the contributions from our various posters in this thread, but yours takes the top step in the spirit of the thread title.

    Thanks for sharing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dru View Post
    Here's the finished miter. I take a lot of pride in getting a nice tight fit with no gaps. This work would really suck without my dremel, especially for the Platinum OX stuff I'm cutting next. It is so hard it wrecks files and busts teeth out of the hacksaw.

    Next, I'm cutting the DT miter. Once that's done I need some better weather so I can break out the torch. It would be foolhardy to the extreme to braze in the basement so my next update may be a while. All I need is near 0 C or better, no wind, and no more stupid snow!

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    Open a window, turn on an exhaust fan and braze! Seriously though, nice work on the miter. I kinda doubt you need to get it THAT nice, but it sure is nice to see such precise work.

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    I just built my own martini and am damn proud of it!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dru View Post
    Well I finally got off my butt and cut some metal. As I stated late last year I'm building frame #2 this winter. The work on the first couple of joints to be brazed was today's adventure. This is an end view of the BB shell, head tube, down tube and seat tube. The tubing is stupidly thin and I'll need to practice my brazing a bit on scrap first to avoid warping the hell out of the headtube which has a wall thickness of only 1 mm. The other tubes are considerably thinner!
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    Quote Originally Posted by osokolo View Post
    I just built my own martini and am damn proud of it!!!
    +1 to that!

    Anyhow, I want to understand - do you cut the tube with the saw and then do all the mitering with a Dremel tool? What sort of bit do you use?

    In any case, loving these posts! :BEER:
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    Going to be building my first bike, decided to go witha 29'er.
    Looking to save a bit of weight from my Norco Bushpilot (34lbs) and learn more about the mechanics of the bike.

    Trying to read as much as possible before starting to order parts and make sure I do this right.

    Outside of that just overall physical improvement as I'm planning to complete 4 adventure races this summer...First one is May 11th!

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    Quote Originally Posted by osokolo View Post
    I just built my own martini and am damn proud of it!!!
    So 1999. Now days it's brew your own beer. And only Irish Stout and Belgian Ale is acceptable.

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    Well done Oggie! I suspect that you are enough of a hard man that you'd actually have a Martini post ride! I just drink beer.....

    Back to frame building now, all serious business!

    I've taken another shot for GM; luckily I was too lazy to spark up the Dremel at 9:30 last night and I can still show exactly what he was curious about.

    Anyhow, I want to understand - do you cut the tube with the saw and then do all the mitering with a Dremel tool? What sort of bit do you use?
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    You can come pretty close with the hacksaw, like a few mm away from the painted miter line. I'm accomplishing this very complex cut by working tiny bits at a time. I'll start cutting in one spot and cut maybe a 1/4 mm into the metal and then I'll move a few mm away and repeat. Pretty soon I've cut a groove all the way around the tube. Once that's done I start cutting all the way through, still following the same process. Eventually I'll need to cut a fair way into the piece being removed as it become impossible to make the blade bend around corners. You'll see that as the 'X' mark on the grey painted piece. The 1/2 finished DT was cut out as described, and hasn't been trimmed in any way yet, not even with the hacksaw. You'll see a grey line maybe 1 to 2 mm that I still need to remove with the Dremel.

    This cut and the DT/BB shell cut are the hardest two cuts to make on a bike, however I'm a lot more confident this time 'round and the cut pictured took me less than 15 minutes to do.

    GM, as you can see in the photo I'm using a sanding drum on the Dremel. The one pictured is the medium size and I'm only using it because I'm all out of large drums. Regardless, all three sizes are fantastic at cutting away at the metal; they are around 80 grit. Other kinds of cutters I've tried are either ineffectual or too harsh. The ineffectual ones are sanding 'flap wheels' and the very small tool steel cutting tips. The ones that are too aggressive are any of the grinding stones. What's pictured seems to work best for me.

    I am very happy to say I haven't needed to use a file yet although that will need to happen for the later work.
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    I just ordered an iron blue Crank Brothers Cobalt 3 seatpost/stem combo from CRC. After Drew's performance on here, I guess nobody is interested in my skill with a 5mm Allen key installing these sweeties?

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    Looks like a change in plans, this was too good of a deal to pass up!

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    Very nice components on that. $1322 Cdn plus shipping and credit card exchange fees. Got any plans for bringing it across the border? Ship to Niagara Falls and spend the weekend down there to get the exemption? I figure about $400 duty and taxes, would pretty well pay for the weekend.

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    My dad lives in the states so I would just ship it to him and he would bring it out on his next business trip. I'm hoping since he is a US resident and claim it as a gift it should pass without any duty or taxes.

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    Warranty frame arrived..



    Since have two bikes up and running think will take my time with this one.

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    A second On-one frame? Now you have no excuse! You'd be joining an exclusive IGH club.

    Some are slow (myself-Alfine) and some are fast (Vern Huck-dog-Rohloff)...despite the hub gear drag....

    Vern is the only IGH rider I've met in the 5 years I've ridden my Alfine.

    Now, that's exclusive, but not necessarily in a good way....
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    A second On-one frame? Now you have no excuse! You'd be joining an exclusive IGH club.

    Some are slow (myself-Alfine) and some are fast (Vern Huck-dog-Rohloff)...despite the hub gear drag....

    Vern is the only IGH rider I've met in the 5 years I've ridden my Alfine.

    Now, that's exclusive, but not necessarily in a good way....
    Vertical drop outs was what they said they could give me. But it was a free frame in the end really so who can complain?

    Plan is to build more like I did with the Stylus and Samurai. Though can take my time as no rush to get it rolling ASAP..

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    Stylus, Samurai....

    looks like a hardtail for Blue! Or dirtjumping. Or hucking off stuff....

    and going fast downhill...

    all good!

    What's this EPMS you are mentioning?
    occasional cyclist

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