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    Specialized Owns Roubaix?

    Okay, when did Specialized bicycles become so wealthy they could buy up all of Roubaix from the. French? For a land dal of this magnitude you would expect to have seen a little bit of media attention.

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    Hey what's new... they sue everyone. Shame on them for picking on the little guys. Make sure to check out the comments after that article.
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    I've seen people post in the past that they would never buy a Specialized product. This makes me feel the same way.
    Copyright protection laws aside, there are always several ways to deal with a situation.

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    Unfortunately the timing of this happening sucks. I say that as in less then a week 4 Canadian soldiers with PTSD have commited suicide.

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    I have reached out to Roubaix Cycles and offered my legal services pro bono. I hate bullies.
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    Of special note is that it is called Cafe Roubaix Bicycles, I wonder how many hotels, restaurants and plumbing services that Specialized has sued in Roubaix?

    And then Fuji just goes ahead and straight out names their bikes Roubaix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unglued View Post
    I have reached out to Roubaix Cycles and offered my legal services pro bono. I hate bullies.
    If this is true, you're my man crush for 2014. Oggie is so 2013.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unglued View Post
    I have reached out to Roubaix Cycles and offered my legal services pro bono. I hate bullies.
    Specialized has shown a pattern over the years.... Epic Designs now Revelate as well comes to mind.

    Like anything people will tolerate behavior like this to a certain point. And Specialized based on previous public response was definitely not expecting this level of hostile response. In this case their target being a veteran was enough.

    The Café Roubaix is now getting orders from as far away as New Zealand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggie View Post
    If this is true, you're my man crush for 2014. Oggie is so 2013.
    Er thanks I think?
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    Not to mention the earlier Mountain Cycle/Specialized Stumptown saga. They're prepared to defend words that aren't even the ones they use.

    Specialized, Mountain Cycle disagree on "Stumptown" | BikePortland.org

    Jude Kirstein should have relabeled her wheels Epique or Epik,



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    Yep, fawk the big S. I've been boycotting them for years now. Time to throw the few Specialized odds and ends laying the bottom of the spare parts bucket into the trash.

    I also went ahead and ordered a Cafe Roubaix tee shirt.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikin' Bric View Post
    Yep, fawk the big S. I've been boycotting them for years now. Time to throw the few Specialized odds and ends laying the bottom of the spare parts bucket into the trash.

    I also went ahead and ordered a Cafe Roubaix tee shirt.
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    Er thanks I think?
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    Interesting that the Roubaix trademark registration in Canada is for the singular use of that word and only for bike equipment such as frames and components, handlebars, front fork and bicycle tires.

    Doesn't mention modifiers like Cafe or bicycle shops.

    And it's unlikely that people would confuse the two, as one is a small bicycle shop in a small town west of Calgary, well off the Trans Canada Highway and another is a giant litigation-happy corporation full of lawyers with nothing better to do that file nuisance law suits against people who actually made an effort to avoid trademark infringement issues when they registered the name by adding Cafe to it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggie View Post
    If this is true, you're my man crush for 2014. Oggie is so 2013.
    awww... but in this case - i am not hurt... unglued is da man.

    specialized should not do this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unglued View Post
    I have reached out to Roubaix Cycles and offered my legal services pro bono. I hate bullies.
    Nice - thanks U-G'd. This could get interesting if a few more like-minded lawyers in addition to yourself get the same hankering to help. It would be very cool if Specialized had to back off because the tables got turned and they couldn't afford to fight against a community-based legal effort.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockyuphill View Post
    Interesting that the Roubaix trademark registration in Canada is for the singular use of that word and only for bike equipment such as frames and components, handlebars, front fork and bicycle tires.

    Doesn't mention modifiers like Cafe or bicycle shops.

    And it's unlikely that people would confuse the two, as one is a small bicycle shop in a small town west of Calgary, well off the Trans Canada Highway and another is a giant litigation-happy corporation full of lawyers with nothing better to do that file nuisance law suits against people who actually made an effort to avoid trademark infringement issues when they registered the name by adding Cafe to it.
    wow... Specialized has already lost the lawsuit in the court of public opinion. Their Facebook page is getting hammered.

    They can still do the right thing and drop the lawsuit. I hope they do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osokolo View Post
    wow... Specialized has already lost the lawsuit in the court of public opinion. Their Facebook page is getting hammered.

    They can still do the right thing and drop the lawsuit. I hope they do.
    Hopefully so but it looks like alot of damage has already been done to their reputation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by osokolo View Post
    wow... Specialized has already lost the lawsuit in the court of public opinion. Their Facebook page is getting hammered.

    They can still do the right thing and drop the lawsuit. I hope they do.
    From the veteran angle....well, sure isn't looking good for Specialized. So while Specialized goes after a veteran. Trek Bicycles has been taking a different path...

    Pedal Dancer®: Wounded Warrior Project

    Trek for 7 years has been supporting the Wounded Warrior Project. Sponsors veterans who race. And if I recall correctly the veteran who completed the Leadville 100 who lost his arms, Trek helped him out with the bike if I recall correctly.

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    It appears that Dan Richter could win a lawsuit. Unfortunately being as small as he is & having other things to worry about is why he's not fighting it. Also unfortunately Specialized's lawyers have nothing better to do than track down and harass anyone they find who might be infringing on their trademarks. Lots of big corporations do this. They win some and lose some. The lawyers? They always win no matter what the outcome.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trail Ninja View Post
    It appears that Dan Richter could win a lawsuit. Unfortunately being as small as he is & having other things to worry about is why he's not fighting it. Also unfortunately Specialized's lawyers have nothing better to do than track down and harass anyone they find who might be infringing on their trademarks. Lots of big corporations do this. They win some and lose some. The lawyers? They always win no matter what the outcome.
    by now Dan must have realized that if he chooses to fight - he could EASILY collect required defense funds by starting an internet campaign. I also hope that Specialized would realize that this fight ain't worth fighting and find a way to amicably resolve the issue (preferred way).

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    The lack of any response so far by Specialized is curious. Is everyone off for the weekend?

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    Quote Originally Posted by osokolo View Post
    by now Dan must have realized that if he chooses to fight - he could EASILY collect required defense funds by starting an internet campaign. I also hope that Specialized would realize that this fight ain't worth fighting and find a way to amicably resolve the issue (preferred way).

    the power of pissed people should not be underestimated...
    I just working with a poor old farmer in Eastern Ontario who has been fighting government expropriation for 7 years. He has a crapload of support but after 7 years he's just given up. It's made him sick and has put his wife in the hospital. I don't blame anybody for not fighting the big guy. Yes, you might win. But really, who wants that crap running their lives?

    I'd fight but I've got all kinds of time and I'm a shit disturber. Not everyone is like that.
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    This same thread is happening in the General Discussion forum as well. The Big "S" must stand for screwing soldiers? Wow, who made the decision to bully a small bicycle café?
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    Quote Originally Posted by rockyuphill View Post
    bike equipment such as frames and components, handlebars, front fork and bicycle tires.

    Doesn't mention modifiers like Cafe or bicycle shops.
    You're right, but the trouble is Mr. Richter IS selling his own brand of wheels labelled with Roubaix.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trail Ninja View Post
    I just working with a poor old farmer in Eastern Ontario who has been fighting government expropriation for 7 years. He has a crapload of support but after 7 years he's just given up. It's made him sick and has put his wife in the hospital. I don't blame anybody for not fighting the big guy. Yes, you might win. But really, who wants that crap running their lives?

    I'd fight but I've got all kinds of time and I'm a shit disturber. Not everyone is like that.
    He's already started to fight. He contacted a newspaper who broke the story and the internet did the rest. And good for him. He's winning in the court of public opinion without spending a dime on legal fees.

    But it's not as fun as looking at cats and arguing with strangers. (Love the signature trail ninja...I assume you changed it because you exacted a terrible revenge on the guy who sent the cancer ...)
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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy View Post
    The lack of any response so far by Specialized is curious. Is everyone off for the weekend?
    No, but I bet their PR company takes the weekend off...
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    His wheels are branded Cafe Roubaix, not Roubaix.

    This would be like Starbucks trademarking the word Coffee because they use it in their name and suing every coffee shop for market confusion caused by trademark infringement. Or suing Battlestar Galactica for having a Starbuck character. Or a pizza place trademarking Chicago style pizza and then suing anyone that used Chicago in their company name.

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    You're right, but the trouble is Mr. Richter IS selling his own brand of wheels labelled with Roubaix.
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    It's about time trademark offices stopped giving em out so easily. Same for patents.

    The sheer arrogance of specialized though is astounding. Their spelling of specialised and stumpjumper fair enough, their S, no problems, but this??? Pfft - ********s!

    What's the record for number of threads about the same subject at the same time - specialized has become famous....

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    Re: Specialized Owns Roubaix?

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    the power of pissed people should not be underestimated...
    ^ this is the ticket right here.

    I think we've all heard a little here and there about Spesh being sue-crazy... but those were JUST business owners at that time. With this newest guy being sued, you are talking multiple angles of pissed of people...

    - those already angry with spesh from previous legal BS
    - veterans
    - "patriots" who see a service man being picked on
    - the entire bicycle community finding out
    - people who don't trust big businesses and supporters of small business... the "anti-corporation" movement going on.

    I don't see this ending well for the S mammoth at all.
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    ...Be careful what you're looking at because it might be looking back...

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    LOL. There is always a bigger dog out there. Well done ASI.
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    Holy cow. What a whirlwind soap opera condensed entirely into a 48 hour timespan.

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    LOL. There is always a bigger dog out there. Well done ASI.
    Maybe not bigger, but ASI is holding the high hand it seems. Nice of the to come out of the gate so quickly to cut through the red tape and provide a resolution instead of retreating to back room dealings with Specialized. Anyone want to guess whose market share and brand value is going up, and whose is going down out of all this?

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    Lol - this is why PR firms value a quick reaction - specialized is only going to look bad now. Even if they were going to be nice, it's too late - you've been beaten to the punch!

    An Epic PR disaster!

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    Yay, the bouncing ball of justice!
    Please enjoy seeing this terrible collection of me - something wonderful is about to happy.

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    Or the rapidly rotating wheel of Karma. :-D
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    Somebody in Specialized's legal department failed to ensure they had all their info before beginning this.

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    The trademark equivalent of ambulance chasers. Everyonce in a while the over eager types rear end an ambulance or two.

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    Somebody in Specialized's legal department failed to ensure they had all their info before beginning this.
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    Obviously, the big S got wind that I had offered my services to Roubaix and realized they should stay in the shallow end :-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unglued View Post
    Obviously, the big S got wind that I had offered my services to Roubaix and realized they should stay in the shallow end :-)
    Of course, but they didn't want to admit it so they went to their trademark licensing partner ASI and jointly concocted this cover story as a more graceful exit from the fray rather than admitting their reluctance to finding you on the other side of the negotiating table.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockyuphill View Post
    Or the rapidly rotating wheel of Karma. :-D
    That moment...... when you walk awkwardly into your bosses office on Monday morning. Your boss who is beyond pissed because of the giant manure pile that has appeared on his desk and has given him a Exedrine Number 3 headache.

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    From earlier this afternoon on the Cafe Roubaix Facebook.


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    On the plus side, I'm looking forward to getting the Cafe Roubaix T-shirt, along with the "I climb well for someone of my weight" T-shirt. Souvenirs of the social media battle.
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    I wonder if this started of as a "make work project" for the lawfirm or in house lawyers. what a better way to say "hey we are looking out for you" then to start up random crap.

    This one backfired pretty bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pharmaboy View Post
    Lol - this is why PR firms value a quick reaction - specialized is only going to look bad now. Even if they were going to be nice, it's too late - you've been beaten to the punch!

    An Epic PR disaster!
    It's going to look bad now?
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    Singletrack Magazine | Battle of Roubaix treaty announced

    Hmm.....it would appear that Specialized Canada's lawyer does seem to be up to speed on their trademark laws..... maybe Unglued could help them with that.



    As some had pointed out, bicycle brand Fuji’s use of the Roubaix name predated Specialized’s and it was in fact Fuji’s parent company Action Sports International that held the initial Roubaix trademark as it applied to bicycles. Under the North American Free Trade Agreement, trademark protection granted in the United States is applicable in Canada – and vise-versa – giving ASI first-use trademark rights. While it may not have been well known in the Canadian office at the time that the Canadian trademark was applied for, Specialized licenses the Roubaix name from ASI. And, as explained to US trade magazine Bicycle Retailer and Industry News, it was Specialized’s move to protect the Canadian trademark that brought the issue to ASI’s attention:

    “ASI only recently learned of Specialized’s registration of the Roubaix trademark in Canada and ASI’s position is that Specialized’s registration of the mark in Canada was inappropriate under the terms of their license agreement. ASI has used the mark in Canada for well over 10 years, giving it first-use trademark rights in Canada.”

    In short, the Roubaix name was not Specialized’s to trademark – in Canada or elsewhere – or theirs to defend. The Bicycle Retailer article goes on to suggest that ASI did not foresee any harm coming from stemming from confusion between a model of road bike, the small bike shop, and the shop’s in-house wheel line:






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    Cochrane war vet keeps Roubaix name in agreement with Specialized bikes | Calgary Herald


    One phone call, and it was over.

    That’s what it took to end the trademark-infringement-***-public-relations debacle over the word Roubaix that has engulfed the cycling world the past few days. When asked how he felt now that it was over, the guy at the centre of it all, Alberta war vet and bike-shop owner Dan Richter, let out a big sign. “Exhausted,” he said with a chuckle.

    The phone call came Tuesday when Specialized founder and chairman Mike Sinyard, an icon of the cycling industry, called Richter personally and agreed to share usage of the word. It ended five days of Internet furor, and left Cochrane’s newly famous bike shop owner relieved and grateful.

    “It was a good conversation,” Richter told me Tuesday afternoon, during a conversation from his shop, Cafe Roubaix Bicycle Studio in Cochrane. “We are going to move forward with an agreement.”

    On Saturday, I wrote a story about Richter’s decision to capitulate to legal threats from Specialized over his use of Roubaix in the name of his bike shop and custom-made wheels. Richter chose the word because he liked the association with Paris-Roubaix, a 117-year-old bike race famous for its gruelling cobblestone-and-mud route through northern France. Trouble was, Specialized owns the trademark for the word in Canada and markets a road bike under the name Roubaix.

    Lacking the funds to fight the battle in court, Richter had decided to give up the fight and change the store’s name. But the story spread across the Internet like wildfire. Richter (and yours truly) was inundated with emails, phone calls, tweets and Facebook messages from people who thought Specialized was going too far in trying to own the name of a city in France with a storied history in cycling tradition, and was bullying a small-business owner who suffers from post-traumatic stress disorder from his time fighting for the Canadian military in Afghanistan.

    The outcry lasted for days, and led to calls for boycotts of Specialized, donations to legal funds and even Twitter users changing their online names to Roubaix in a show of support.

    A break came Monday night, when a representative from Advanced Sports International in the U.S., the owner of the Roubaix trademark in the U.S. which leases its use to Specialized, offered a slapdown to Specialized. In a story reported by Stephen Frothingham in the Bicycle Retailer and Industry News, Pat Cunnane, the CEO of ASI, said Specialized’s legal threats against Richter went against the licensing agreement , and he vowed to ensure Richter could keep the name Cafe Roubaix.

    Richter said he hadn’t even had time to call Cunnane back before he heard from Specialized’s Sinyard, who was full of apologies and agreeable to a deal in which all three companies could continue to use the word.

    Much of the backlash against Specialized focused on the litigious reputation of the company, so I asked Richter directly if he thought their change of face was genuine, or if he felt the company was forced into it by the social media backlash.

    “I tend to be a very leery dude, but (Sinyard) was very contrite. Very genuine,” Richter said. ”I’m not sure (Sinyard) even knew this was going on until the rest of the world did.

    “We had a good talk.”

    Richter said details still remain to be worked out between the lawyers, but he’s looking forward to getting back building wheels and selling bikes, rather than talking to reporters. Besides, he needs to get to work filling a truckload of new orders from supporters all over the world.

    “It’s been crazy, but I’m really thankful,” he said. “We’re still in business. That’s the important part.”





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    Wow, maybe this Cafe Roubaix incident will actually change the corporate culture of the big S. From the Specialized Bicycles Facebook page...

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    I Screwed up, and I own it

    I would like to apologize and let everyone know I realize I handled this situation wrong from the start and I’m very sorry for that. As many of you have probably already seen by now, I went up to Café Roubaix to meet with Dan in person to apologize and make good with him. Café Roubaix will continue on with its name. The video is up on Café Roubaix's Facebook page. Dan is the real deal, after meeting him I realize this and am embarrassed by how ridiculous this is. What happened was wrong. There are no excuses but I do feel like I owe it to you all to explain how we found ourselves in this situation, the lessons we've learned from it and, most importantly, how it will change the way we do things moving forward.

    Over the past few years we’ve seen a massive spike in counterfeit products, and most of the riders have no idea these products are fake, which is extremely dangerous because the risk of failure on these untested products is extremely high. In one instance, the entire head tube and fork sheared off a counterfeit Tarmac, causing the rider who had no idea he was not on a genuine Specialized product to faceplant and destroy his shoulder. To give you an idea of how much this issue has blown up, 10 Specialized employees hunt fake products across 30 major ecommerce platforms, we've identified over 5,000 listings, worth $11,000,000 USD in counterfeit goods since January 1st of this year alone. This is about double what it was last year. Due to this we have recently gone after IP and trademark issues more aggressively in the interest of protecting the safety of riders and the livelihood of our dealers and their hard-working employees. See the attached picture to understand how dangerous fake goods are.

    In the deal with Café Roubaix, the wheels were the red flag that got the attention of our outside attorney’s who were already sort of on red alert for anything that pops up, although Café Roubaix wasn’t in the same camp as the counterfeiters, they still got caught in the crossfire. There is so much activity with infringers that it’s overwhelming and I don’t see them all. The first I heard of it was Saturday morning and by Monday the thing went huge. But still, that was my fault, which is why I’m so embarrassed. I should have called Dan immediately.

    I heard you and you can rest assured I took it to heart. I realize now that we went too far with this aggressive approach and as a result and in some cases we hurt the local bikes shops and small businesses we wanted to protect. As a result we’re going to take a much closer look at all pending and future intellectual property and trademark issues, making sure to only pursue those that present a clear and obvious danger. The letter on Epix Gear was issued before the Café Roubaix story broke and has since been pulled.

    I handled this very poorly and I own full responsibility. Dan at Café Roubaix and I have become friends and he’s happy with the solution. I hope you too accept my sincere apology. Like you all, I’m passionate about cycling and want to do everything possible to grow the activity we all love.

    Sincerely,

    -Mike Sinyard
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    If genuine, and followed up by actions, that is a good response. If it is more of a RF "im sorry I got caught" apology, then F the big S.

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    It probably is more of a PR face-saving maneuver than a genuine heartfelt response. Only time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rockyuphill View Post
    Wow, maybe this Cafe Roubaix incident will actually change the corporate culture of the big S. From the Specialized Bicycles Facebook page...

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    I Screwed up, and I own it

    I would like to apologize and let everyone know I realize I handled this situation wrong from the start and I’m very sorry for that. As many of you have probably already seen by now, I went up to Café Roubaix to meet with Dan in person to apologize and make good with him. Café Roubaix will continue on with its name. The video is up on Café Roubaix's Facebook page. Dan is the real deal, after meeting him I realize this and am embarrassed by how ridiculous this is. What happened was wrong. There are no excuses but I do feel like I owe it to you all to explain how we found ourselves in this situation, the lessons we've learned from it and, most importantly, how it will change the way we do things moving forward.

    Over the past few years we’ve seen a massive spike in counterfeit products, and most of the riders have no idea these products are fake, which is extremely dangerous because the risk of failure on these untested products is extremely high. In one instance, the entire head tube and fork sheared off a counterfeit Tarmac, causing the rider who had no idea he was not on a genuine Specialized product to faceplant and destroy his shoulder. To give you an idea of how much this issue has blown up, 10 Specialized employees hunt fake products across 30 major ecommerce platforms, we've identified over 5,000 listings, worth $11,000,000 USD in counterfeit goods since January 1st of this year alone. This is about double what it was last year. Due to this we have recently gone after IP and trademark issues more aggressively in the interest of protecting the safety of riders and the livelihood of our dealers and their hard-working employees. See the attached picture to understand how dangerous fake goods are.

    In the deal with Café Roubaix, the wheels were the red flag that got the attention of our outside attorney’s who were already sort of on red alert for anything that pops up, although Café Roubaix wasn’t in the same camp as the counterfeiters, they still got caught in the crossfire. There is so much activity with infringers that it’s overwhelming and I don’t see them all. The first I heard of it was Saturday morning and by Monday the thing went huge. But still, that was my fault, which is why I’m so embarrassed. I should have called Dan immediately.

    I heard you and you can rest assured I took it to heart. I realize now that we went too far with this aggressive approach and as a result and in some cases we hurt the local bikes shops and small businesses we wanted to protect. As a result we’re going to take a much closer look at all pending and future intellectual property and trademark issues, making sure to only pursue those that present a clear and obvious danger. The letter on Epix Gear was issued before the Café Roubaix story broke and has since been pulled.

    I handled this very poorly and I own full responsibility. Dan at Café Roubaix and I have become friends and he’s happy with the solution. I hope you too accept my sincere apology. Like you all, I’m passionate about cycling and want to do everything possible to grow the activity we all love.

    Sincerely,

    -Mike Sinyard
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    Oh good, so now I don't have to take the hammer to my Roubaix bike.

    I can see the issue with counterfeit products. It is an enormous problem coming out of China, Taiwan, etc. And this is for many companies and products. But in this case the counterfeit argument is not all that strong since it was clearly all about the Roubaix trademark. Still it is good to see a resolution to a very ugly problem.
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    I said it on Facebook and I'll say it here - I accept counterfeiting as a huge problem for large manufacturers, but if Specialized's legal pit bulls cannot tell the difference between someone mass producing counterfeit Specialized bikes, and a small independent bike shop distributing handbuilt wheels with the name ROubaix on them (a name that Specialized doesn't even own, to boot), then maybe it is time for Specialized to retain a new lawyer, and more importantly, to change its approach.

    Mike Sinyard did not have to fly up to Cochrane for breakfast and an in-person apology. There is no doubt that was a classy move (or was orchestrated by Specialized's PR department to be perceived as a classy move) and a step in the right direction, but only time will tell if Specialized can walk the walk. Until I have seen actual evidence of this, I choose to take my business elsewhere
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    Cafe Roubaix Bicycle Studio PR success = + 1,000,000 + gabillion T-shirt sales

    Specialized Bikes PR success= -1,000,000 + 100

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unglued View Post
    I said it on Facebook and I'll say it here - I accept counterfeiting as a huge problem for large manufacturers, but if Specialized's legal pit bulls cannot tell the difference between someone mass producing counterfeit Specialized bikes, and a small independent bike shop distributing handbuilt wheels with the name ROubaix on them (a name that Specialized doesn't even own, to boot), then maybe it is time for Specialized to retain a new lawyer, and more importantly, to change its approach.

    Mike Sinyard did not have to fly up to Cochrane for breakfast and an in-person apology. There is no doubt that was a classy move (or was orchestrated by Specialized's PR department to be perceived as a classy move) and a step in the right direction, but only time will tell if Specialized can walk the walk. Until I have seen actual evidence of this, I choose to take my business elsewhere
    If memory serves me well - you did not have any business with specialized anyway - right?

    While i disliked the campaign that Specialized launched against small shops - i accepted their apology and moved on. I am not one of thise who would say now their bikes are crap and i will not be buying their products. If that was the case - i would be a big hypocrite for buying Apple since they moved their production offshore, exploiting cheap labour and below standard working conditions.

    And the list doesnt stop there. As we all know.

    Specialized made a big mistake but showed that they care about public opinion and fixed it. I am ok with that.

    Their bikes are still some of the most exciting rigs and ride extremely well. They are an asset to the market, as well as all other manufacturers.

    Hopefully lesson learned. Time to move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osokolo View Post
    If memory serves me well - you did not have any business with specialized anyway - right?

    While i disliked the campaign that Specialized launched against small shops - i accepted their apology and moved on. I am not one of thise who would say now their bikes are crap and i will not be buying their products. If that was the case - i would be a big hypocrite for buying Apple since they moved their production offshore, exploiting cheap labour and below standard working conditions.

    And the list doesnt stop there. As we all know.

    Specialized made a big mistake but showed that they care about public opinion and fixed it. I am ok with that.

    Their bikes are still some of the most exciting rigs and ride extremely well. They are an asset to the market, as well as all other manufacturers.

    Hopefully lesson learned. Time to move on.

    Can we please go back to crapping on Microsoft now?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unglued View Post
    With pleasure. At the office I just switched to the most recent version of windows and Office. The first time I logged in, I got a message telling me that I had 114 updates waiting to download. WTF!
    Lol. Someone starts FB campaign against these updates please.

    Wait - they dont give a chit.
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