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    New question here. single speed frames.......your thoughts?

    So I have started reading up on frames, cranks and various components for a new single speed commuter bike. Just wanted to ask all the single speeders in the fourm their thoughts and recommendations.

    What frames would you recommend?
    I will be using this bike to commute in Toronto and training ...........I am going to beat the crap out of it but have been thinking I don't want a cheap bike combo as it most likely will not hold up to the abuse I put it through.

    I have looked at Surly, Leader and misfit. I have seen some good reviews on Leader bikes as they are affordable and have many features you find on more expensive frames.

    Any thoughts would be appreciated!
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    i know some people that ride the single geared bike of which you speak.

    what sort of budget were you looking at for a frame/fork?
    where you going to 'ghetto' the build with pieces you have or snag on the cheap?
    have you considered a complete bike or a kit?
    what about wheel size?
    this abuse you dish out, what variety is it? many who abuse bike elect for cheap disposable...trash and replace. so your theory of better to abuse is interesting...
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    abuse?

    like jumping of the sidewalks, jumping over potholes, riding in sub 15 celsius temperatures, etc....

    gotta be tough bike...

    now stop asking questions and start putting together one of your cool big wheel rigs for him...


    Quote Originally Posted by nogearshere
    i know some people that ride the single geared bike of which you speak.

    what sort of budget were you looking at for a frame/fork?
    where you going to 'ghetto' the build with pieces you have or snag on the cheap?
    have you considered a complete bike or a kit?
    what about wheel size?
    this abuse you dish out, what variety is it? many who abuse bike elect for cheap disposable...trash and replace. so your theory of better to abuse is interesting...

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    Eh guys,

    I have a budget of tops 600 bones
    but I have wheels
    I am looking at this point for a frame likea surly or misfit cycle type outfit unless you guys know or have something kicking around.
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    you are planning a 29er then? thats why i asked what wheels. the surly offers both a 26 in the 1x1 and 29 in the karate monkey. the dissent is only 29.

    obviously i am biased when it comes to the misfit crap so i'll save you the propaganda, lets just say its the only fat tire i ride...and i own a few.

    knocking the wheels out you could easily snag a build kit for around 600, give er take.
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    Redline Monocog has received a lot of good reviews as well. Complete bike is around $500 US.

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    I use a White Industries ENO hub on a Kona Explosif frame with vertical dropouts.

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    I have been doing some investigating and so far it seems as though the Surly crosscheck will be the winner. I want to make this thing almost like a messengers bike.....just a little better!....................That reminds me..............(refer to new post in main board).
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    Trianing or not? Commuting or not?

    In my opinion, if I was a bike thief and I was faced with the decision of a surly or a missfit, I'd take the missfit.
    Way sweeter.
    If you want to take the bike off road for training get the missfit.
    If you mean training on the roads or if ya wanna go into the odd cyclo cross race get the surly, or the something of the like. Paris to Ancaster is good for cross bikes.
    Or you can keep your eyes peeled for a sweet 80's raleigh Grand Prix like this and convert and customize it to your liking. A great commuter.
    small winter cross single.jpg
    total cost to me is under $60.
    If it gets stolen I am not out too much and I made it myself so I like to ride something I made. It adds to the fun.
    I use it for road training rides when the trails are too soft to ride and the roads are too slick for my fixie. An old Miele.
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    Also a sweet cheap ride. A little more than the old raleigh though.(Dura Ace hubs) Only for training and fun.
    Good luck on what ever ya chose.
    If you keep it to single speed you'll have a blast on whatever you buy.
    P.S. I guess you didn't do too much research on the missfit diSSent 29er if you don't know where they are originated from.(hint hint earlier posting hear and on many other posts)

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    P.S. I guess you didn't do too much research on the missfit diSSent 29er if you don't know where they are originated from.(hint hint earlier posting hear and on many other posts)[/quote]

    Actually............ I did and have decided along the line of a surly crosscheck frame.....capice
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    It's only pain......

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    holy crap.
    that is worth a second look...you'd be hard pressed to garage sale a commuter cheaper then that.

    EDIT: but put a flipping brake on it...
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    Quote Originally Posted by nogearshere
    holy crap.
    that is worth a second look...you'd be hard pressed to garage sale a commuter cheaper then that.

    EDIT: but put a flipping brake on it...
    It has a flipping brake...as in a flipping hub (fixie)

    If you want (need) additional stopping power, that will be an extra $50 sir....

    http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/.../messenger.htm
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSteve F
    It has a flipping brake...as in a flipping hub (fixie)
    oh i was aware...its the hipster 'tude that too often requires fashion preside over function (and more importantly safety) that was the impetus for my plea...
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    Windsor ride looks like a sweet deal.

    Yes the Windsor would be a worthy investment.
    I am not sure it would hold up to too many curb hops and pot holes though.
    How much tire clearance does it have? I would think for a commuter a bit more rubber with mini knobs would add more confidence to the rider in all conditions.
    Thus the Surly or I once spied a Bianchi San Jose .It looked sweet.
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    That's the ride I would most like to mount.
    Looks pretty much same as the windsor for 2x the price though

    On an unrelated note but a question you asked in the winter rack thread.
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    Nah, you're wrong....

    Quote Originally Posted by nogearshere
    oh i was aware...its the hipster 'tude that too often requires fashion preside over function (and more importantly safety) that was the impetus for my plea...

    ...even Clapton wants in on the fixie/track/courier look. So 2007 thought.

    http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/
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    crosscheck is a great ride, i use mine for commuting and training. cheap, tough and easy to SS, plus some fantastic tire clearance (best in class?)

    for pure utility, it's hard to beat surly.
    what would rainbow unicorn do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSteve F
    ...even Clapton wants in on the fixie/track/courier look. So 2007 thought.

    http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.com/
    i know, but he has the good sense not to ride it.

    SERIOUSLY - i'll stop preaching.
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    Hi Mac,

    Today I picked up a sweet deal on a 21 inch frame Falcon (UK company) for $80 bones.
    the bike has some scratches on it. It has all Shimano 600 (todays Ultegra!) He bought the bike in Ireland in the late 80's and has toured Ireland with it.......so nice to know the history of the bike.........Any how I have already started stripping it down and give er one week or so and she will be a single speed demon when I am done with er.
    Along with the 80 bucks, he gave me a cateye, touring bags that go on the side on the bike and on the front bars as well! I also got a pump and a light system! And just when I thought he was done, he passed me a book on cycling history and bike tools along with a campy rear deraileur!!!! I could not beleive it! So falborgasted as I was, we started chatting and he even offered me a scotch!!!

    I have included a picture of the bike now and I will take a shot when I have completed it and will post that picture in about two weeks or so.

    I just want to say thanks to Joe O'Neil for being such a nice old fella, the bike and the scotch!...............Hats off to you Joe!

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    Nice score....what a nice guy!

    He doesn't have another bike does he?
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSteve F
    Nice score....what a nice guy!

    He doesn't have another bike does he?
    maybe he needs a son?

    nice.
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    Good job! Oil Beef Hooked! You scored a sweet ride there.

    Way 2 go dude!

    Pretty good deal!
    Since you saved some $$$ on the bike now you could probably invest in to it and do it up right. New wheels, rubber, saddle, bar tape, fenders( if you wanna stay dry) etc.

    If your lookin' for ideas on how to "fix" it up a bit.
    Check out Fixedgeargallery .com.
    I wouldn't make it a fixie if you are gonna use it everyday to n fro work.
    A little on the dangerous side for busy traffic. At least for me.
    But hook it up with a BMX freewheel and redish the wheel and there ya go. SS
    I run mine 42X16 and I get around pretty good.
    When I take it out on the training runs I can hold the speed up over 30km/h for the flatter rides most of the time. Providing I'm in shape to do it to.

    I am happy for ya. Now have some fun hookin' it up the way ya like.
    Then have a blast hammering all over the place.

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    My thoughts exactly Mac!
    I will post the picture once she is sweetened up............lol
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    Mac,
    I just wanted to ask you ........Do you run a 42 tooth in the crank because from your pictures..........it looks like there are more???
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    Quote Originally Posted by sperky
    Redline Monocog has received a lot of good reviews as well. Complete bike is around $500 US.

    I sing the praises of my moncog frame daily. Not only is it beautiful. the geometry is awesome for most applications. I ride trail, street/park, light trials, and commute. Great prices. And they last for years. Only down side is if you get just a frame you need to build your rear wheel on a 110mm hub. (found that out the hard way)

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