It was about 1989 when I first met Jeremy on a summer Wednesday morning. It was at the muffin place near the Seaforth Amouries on Burrard for the Wed group ride with . It was from Jeremy that this 18 year old Tri Geek learned how to ride in a group and draft of others. No ridiculing of tri geeks at all.
Still recall the ride when Sharon Donnelly came out. It wasn't till we got to the Lions Gate bridge it comes out that Sharon can't cross as she is terrified of heights. Jeremy was wanting to change the route as I recall. But after some discussion between the 2 of them, Sharon went her own way.
If you hurt in your efforts and suffer painful dings. Then you are doing it right.