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    Pinecones and Perseverance: The Official Hamilton Trail Building Thread

    On behalf of the Hamilton Cycling Club and its Trail Advocacy Committee, it gives me great pleasure (and tremendous pride) to announce that the Hamilton Conservation Authority has asked us to propose 10km of NEW SINGLETRACK in Christie Lake Conservation Area.

    The South Shore (the top area of the map below) of Christie Lake is already home to roughly 10km of mature double-track. It comprises an area roughly equivalent to the "business end" of Puslinch. Vegetation consists mainly of 30-40 year-old plantation pine interspersed with hardwood corridors. The topography is quite varied and would best be described as rolling.

    I will be leading a "Get to Know Christie" tour this Sunday morning, departing from Cafe Domestique at roughly 10:30 AM (or whenever I'm done my cappuccino). Bring your skis, snowshoes, bikes, families, dogs or whatever. Everyone is welcome! If you're not already an HCA member, it does cost money to enter so come prepared. Carpooling will minimize the price! PM or e-mail me (marcrisdale [at!] gmail [dot!] com) with any questions.



    Thanks to everyone that trooped out to the pub last night. It was huge!

    Lastly, thanks to all the hard-working Committee members that made this possible. I couldn't possibly ask for a better Xmas present!
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    The HCA's vision was that this would become a trail centre, and attract mountain bikers specifically. VERY exciting.

    Huge kudos to the Trail Advocacy Committee for this incredibly rapid progress.

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    that's cool. will it end up being multi-use?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saturnine
    that's cool. will it end up being multi-use?
    That's a qualified yes. Like the WCC trails, the plan is that it would be open to hikers, trail-runners and the like but off-limits to equestrians.
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    good work X10

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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster
    That's a qualified yes. Like the WCC trails, the plan is that it would be open to hikers, trail-runners and the like but off-limits to equestrians.
    so, basically, a moving rock garden?

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    Quote Originally Posted by saturnine
    so, basically, a moving rock garden?
    The way the double-track (which is open to horses, BTW) is laid out in there, the new network will come out looking something similar to Buckwallow (minus the granite) with loops darting in and out of forested "pods".
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    Congrats HCC!!!
    Great job.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PUBCRAWL
    Congrats HCC!!!
    Great job.
    The SHCC has been a great inspiration!
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    Congratulations. Hopefully this sets an example for other municipalities and Conservation authorities


    Edited to ask...Did anyone guess the surprise?

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    Quote Originally Posted by HSCoach2
    Edited to ask...Did anyone guess the surprise?
    Can't say for sure. I think some people had a feeling SOMETHING was up at Christie but there was an audible gasp when I said "10km". And then, when I unfurled the giant topo map... applause!
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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster
    Can't say for sure. I think some people had a feeling SOMETHING was up at Christie but there was an audible gasp when I said "10km". And then, when I unfurled the giant topo map... applause!
    10k is amazing! congrats!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster
    ...there was an audible gasp when I said "10km". And then, when I unfurled the giant topo map... applause!
    You're quite the showman.
    Congrats on the giant step forward.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedumbopinion
    You're quite the showman.
    I like to think of myself as zazzy. I will however refrain from posting a Big Bang Theory clip on the grounds that I will inevitably get the sound of Sheldon's voice stuck in my head.
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    Mr. Monster has mad presentation skillz!!! The presentation was very well received and very entertaining!!

    I'll be dusting off and polishing up the trail building tools in anticipation!!

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    You know what? I've never actually gone inside the boundaries of Christie Lake. It looks like that might change. :-)

    Oh, and congratulations.
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    Anyone who's done the Dundas Monstercross will remember Christie as the place with the dam. Somewhere, there's a video of nspace riding the half-pipe on his Steelwool.
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    Great news

    Could not make the Pub Night, Let me know how we at GORBA can help and when the trail cutting dates are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by IAMTBER
    Could not make the Pub Night, Let me know how we at GORBA can help and when the trail cutting dates are.
    I'd be remiss if I didn't also acknowledge GORBA's great support as we got off the ground. Super bunch of guys and gals that never hesitate to pitch in!
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    Outstanding! Great news! Where do I sign up for the work detail?
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    So cool.

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    Dundas Monstercross is going to OUT OF CONTROL if we link these new trails into it.

    Nice work guys, the plan looks great!

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    Congrats! That is awesome news! Will have to go out that way and check out those trails!

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    Great to meet some of you folks today! Definitely some good trail potential in there (quality AND quantity)... Keep me in the loop as to what I can do to help!

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    Given the short notice I gave everyone on the Christie walk, turn-out was fantastic (as were the capuccino and croissants!)!

    In all, we were out and about in the woods of the South Shore for four hours and according to Phil's GPS, we logged over 8km of bush whacking! We even "missed" significant chunks of forest in the mid-section (just as well since we were all getting fairly done-in!).

    Prior to yesterday, I had the merest inkling of just how amazing the terrain in Christie would be and it was really cool to see everyone's faces light up as we started tromping through the pines. We were running around in there like kids on Xmas morning!

    For anyone that didn't have a chance to join us yesterday, I encourage you to visit Christie when you get a chance to get a feel for all the work that lies ahead. This is going to be one seriously fun undertaking.

    Mrs. Monster and I will probably be back there Sunday morning (recovering from Women's Weekend at Joyride) to map out the existing double-track via GPS on skis. Drop me a line if anyone wants to hook up for a guided visit!
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    Great to hear the walk went well, sorry I couldn't attend as I was out of the country. You have done a great job getting this (along with the rest of the TAC) to where it is, I can't wait to help out planning and building.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirbikealot
    Great to hear the walk went well, sorry I couldn't attend as I was out of the country. You have done a great job getting this (along with the rest of the TAC) to where it is, I can't wait to help out planning and building.
    Oh, we'll be leaning on you a lot in the next while!

    Departure time has been determined for Sunday's expedition. 11AM at Domestique. That gives us ample time to ski 'til we're pooped AND heat up all our Superbowl munchies!
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    Kudos on your efforts put forth, the step forward for collaborative trail creation and open access is a great win win. I don't know this trail system, as I am much more North but would consider gathering a few to help. Similar to Buckwallow - this would be a gem.

    Many cycling groups have made local progress, but what is being done on a Provincial Level. Anyone shed some light on this, not to high jack your thread, just add another layer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inmysights
    Many cycling groups have made local progress, but what is being done on a Provincial Level. Anyone shed some light on this, not to high jack your thread, just add another layer.

    It seems lots is happening from Durham/Rouge Valley and to the West. Anything East of Durham is a dead zone it seems.

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    Quote Originally Posted by inmysights
    Many cycling groups have made local progress, but what is being done on a Provincial Level. Anyone shed some light on this, not to high jack your thread, just add another layer.
    In general, I'd say that we, as riders, aren't as well organised as we are Nationally (IMBA) or locally (all our strong clubs). In an effort to address this, about a year ago IMBA started their their Regional Leadership Advocacy Council (I think I got that right, RLAC for short anyway). This is going to be a sort of "club of clubs" that will give us a Provincial voice.

    It's been a teeny bit slow to get off the ground but the next big meeting will be the Friday of the Spring Bike Show. Although I'm not our club's rep (that would be kaikara), I'm still gonna sit in and take a long, hard listen.

    In the meantime, there's a great informal network of resources amongst the clubs. We all ride and build together so any new information travels quickly!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nspace
    Dundas Monstercross is going to OUT OF CONTROL if we link these new trails into it.
    It will be soon known as the Dundas Hell Ride.

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    With the quality of yesterday's snow, skiing around Christie with a GPS in my back pocket was a lot more work than I'd bargained for but thanks to our in-house mapping guru, we now have a very accurate layout of all the existing South Shore double track.

    The cool thing about this is that even the Authority doesn't have this data so by sharing it with them, we're already doing them a big favour!
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    Using the humongous (50MB! ) digital topo map given to us by the HCA and the GPS tracking I did last week, behold the Existing Double-Track Map (of awesomeness)! As you can see, the double-track breaks up the CA into tidy sectors that we've numbered for ease of reference.

    I can't tell you how much fun I'm having with this project!

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    Sector 5, 6 and 7, prepare to be invaded.

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    Oh ya, forgot to mention, for scale, that picture is roughly 2km across the bottom.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedumbopinion
    Sector 5, 6 and 7, prepare to be invaded.
    Heck with that! Sectors 1-12, prepare for a singletrack explosion!

    Wandering some of those larger reforested sections was almost overwhelming. Where to start???

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    That's awesome! I live in Waterdown so I could ride there from home on a good day!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiotMTB
    That's awesome! I live in Waterdown so I could ride there from home on a good day!!
    It'd be a bit of a (yucky) hike along 5 but yeah, you'd probably be there in under an hour. The bonus is that the ride-in fee is way cheaper than the drive-in fee!
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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster
    It'd be a bit of a (yucky) hike along 5 but yeah, you'd probably be there in under an hour. The bonus is that the ride-in fee is way cheaper than the drive-in fee!
    you can ride singletrack about 90% of the way right into christie lake from waterdown, i do it regularly, let me know if you need to know some of the trails
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    Quote Originally Posted by sirbikealot
    you can ride singletrack about 90% of the way right into christie lake from waterdown, i do it regularly, let me know if you need to know some of the trails
    Hmm, now that you mention it, you're right. I've just never pieced it all together into one ride!
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    I know the waterdown trails inside-out, but I had no idea there was a trail system into christie lake!

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    Quote Originally Posted by RiotMTB
    I know the waterdown trails inside-out, but I had no idea there was a trail system into christie lake!
    Assuming you can get yourself to the "underpass" at 6, you can scoot up the Bruce from there and take that out to the Optimist trail and BAM, yer there!
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    i wish i knew this area better

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    Aha...excellent, thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by saturnine
    i wish i knew this area better
    I've been at it for the last seven years now and people are still showing me new stuff all the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster
    In general, I'd say that we, as riders, aren't as well organised as we are Nationally (IMBA) or locally (all our strong clubs). In an effort to address this, about a year ago IMBA started their their Regional Leadership Advocacy Council (I think I got that right, RLAC for short anyway). This is going to be a sort of "club of clubs" that will give us a Provincial voice.

    The way you describe it. It sounds almost similar to the Alpine Club of Canada model. Or the Federation of Mountain Clubs BC model.

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    Stay tuned...

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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster
    Stay tuned...

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    Not the one I was going for, but close enough:
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    Now that Something BIG has come and gone (quite successfully I might add), we're about to get into the meat of the matter. (Careful what you wish for - you might get it!)

    While thousands were out frolicking in the muck and the mire of P2A, a hearty group of bushwhackers was out at Christie Lake on Sunday corridor-flagging a new Green loop and pin- flagging the remaining Green and Blue sections that we're aiming to have built for our presentation to the HCA Advisory Board in June.

    The HCC is hosting another build day (don't expect the fanfare of the TCC visit) for this Saturday (April 23) and numbers are limited. At last count, there were 6 spots left open. If you're interested in moving some earth, PM me and I'll get you in touch with the right people.
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