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    Official TdF Thread!

    I grow weary of the mud/no-mud debate and as such have decided to turn my attention to something that should involve no mud at all (god help us racer-boys if it does ): the Tour!



    This is gonna be one heck of a race: the return of the TTT, 2 radio-free stages and of course, Lanstana!

    Anyone care to make some predictions? Who's looking good for Stage 1? How about the GC? Can Contador win another? Sastre? Menchov? Wow!
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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster
    I grow weary of the mud/no-mud debate and as such have decided to turn my attention to something that should involve no mud at all (god help us racer-boys if it does ): the Tour!


    This is gonna be one heck of a race: the return of the TTT, 2 radio-free stages and of course, Lanstana!

    Anyone care to make some predictions? Who's looking good for Stage 1? How about the GC? Can Contador win another? Sastre? Menchov? Wow!
    Maybe no mud per se, but get ready for some mud-slinging! (those that hate Lance, hate him a lot)

    Predictions? Not so much a prediction, but I'm very interested in seeing how Andy Schleck does.

    Fervent hope: A Tour in which no major drug scandals occur. I don't want to see a stage in which a Ricco/Schumacher type character all of a sudden is the second-coming of Merckx only to have it all revealed within days.

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    I'm going to be there. I hope to see a part of the stage ending in Aubenas. Also, I will be riding with a friend (and 8,500 Frenchmen) in l'Etape du Tour on July 20th from Montelimar to Ventoux.

    My predictions:
    • a big deal will be made over Lanceypants
    • one or more of the riders may dope
    • the radio-free stages will be interesting
    • Fabio will win the prologue
    • despite staying in the same hotels, Contador and Lanceypants may not eat dinner at the same table each evening
    • my 2 year old daughter will go absolutely batty (Emily?) when the peleton goes by
    • I will be tired after climbing Ventoux

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    I cannot wait for the Le Tour to start up again especially since I’ve started to do more road riding. It should provide some extra motivation or at least a little fun pretending I’m someone else.

    As for predictions, if you remember last year, and I’m sure you don’t, I correctly predicted the yellow jersey, the white jersey, the green jersey and the best team. Unfortunately it is the greatest acomplishemnt in my life.

    My overall predictions will come later but here is two early ones for you. Menchov will be on the podium and there will be a stage winner sent home because “there are errors in his biological passport”. I know, I know, big surprise eh?

    No worries about the radio free stage. Lance keeps his Twitterberry in his jersey pocket and Johan has already set up a few accounts to allude the judges.

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    Le Tour!


    (that's all for now)
    When under pressure, your level of performance will sink to your level of preparation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smarty
    I'm going to be there. I hope to see a part of the stage ending in Aubenas. Also, I will be riding with a friend (and 8,500 Frenchmen) in l'Etape du Tour on July 20th from Montelimar to Ventoux.

    My predictions:
    • a big deal will be made over Lanceypants
    • one or more of the riders may dope
    • the radio-free stages will be interesting
    • Fabio will win the prologue
    • despite staying in the same hotels, Contador and Lanceypants may not eat dinner at the same table each evening
    • my 2 year old daughter will go absolutely batty (Emily?) when the peleton goes by
    • I will be tired after climbing Ventoux
    I am green with jealousy
    I was at the amstel gold race, fleche wallonne and liege bastone liege this spring and there is nothing like standing on the side of the road as top level riders fly by.......
    damn i am jealous!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkj__
    Le Tour!


    (that's all for now)

    Vive Le Tour!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dover
    I am green with jealousy
    I was at the amstel gold race, fleche wallonne and liege bastone liege this spring and there is nothing like standing on the side of the road as top level riders fly by.......
    damn i am jealous!!!!
    I've been to the Tour once before, but not ever the Spring Classics. The Classics are definitely on my list of races to go see. However, it is easier to take my family to hot and sunny France in the summer than it is to take them to cold and rainy Belgium in the spring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smarty
    I've been to the Tour once before, but not ever the Spring Classics. The Classics are definitely on my list of races to go see. However, it is easier to take my family to hot and sunny France in the summer than it is to take them to cold and rainy Belgium in the spring.
    I was very lucky this year. Southern Belgium/Holland had the best weather they've had in 50 years. I went to those races because all three are in the same area in the same week.
    sunday-wednesday-sunday and not more that 60 km apart. the amsel gold has a cyclosportif the day before as well so citizens can race the pro course. some of those hills are f'n steep.

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    What 2 stages are radio free?

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    Quote Originally Posted by randyn
    What 2 stages are radio free?
    From VeloNews:

    The measure will affect the Limoges-Issoudun stage on July 14 and the Vittel-Colmar stage on July 17.
    The first is a flat, 200km stage that should make for some interesting tactics once teams looking for stage victories start throwing down the inevitable attacks.

    The second is a hilly 200km stage with two Cat 3s, two Cat 2s and a Cat 1. I might guess that the teams with top-10 GC riders will try to keep a lid on anything until the Cat 1 and then let the climbers duke it out for the win with only the final Cat 3 before the finish. ...Or, we could see SaxoBank drive the pace like mad and poop out the entire peloton before they even get there.

    According to the odds makers, Armstrong is the second most likely (after Contador) to win Le Tour. Odds indeed!
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    My pick for the Prolouge is Fabian Cancellara

    My darkhorse is David Zabriskie

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    Alberto gonna take it, with a team or without. Hes that good...

    Wanna see what Andy can do.

    Other than that, Lance won't even finish 2nd on his team.
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    hope someone jumps it again on a mountainbike...


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    Whoops...I thought it was a "DnF" thread....
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    Holy cow the TTT was amazing! So glad to see it back! Has there ever been a smaller gap between the top 2 in the GC? Crazy!
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    That was crazy! Stuck in the office but a friend turned me on to this...

    http://www.versus.com/tourdefrancelive

    shhhh...don't tell my boss.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster
    Holy cow the TTT was amazing! So glad to see it back! Has there ever been a smaller gap between the top 2 in the GC? Crazy!
    Amazing? Yes, I loved watching it...and then I saw the carnage. It's pretty disappointing to see time gaps of 2 and 3 minutes for serious hopefuls this early. I think they might have had it right a few years back when they had defined and maximum time losses in the TTT.

    Cadel Evans must be livid right now. He's just lost his chance at the Tour. Same for Menchov (although he didn't look like he had it in him anyway).

    It's now just the four guys on Astana against I guess Andy Schleck, Vandevelde and Rogers, with maybe Kreuziger as a wildcard.

    The craziest thing this does is completely throw the focus on the Astana team dynamics. Without too much serious competition from other teams, it'll be interesting to see what happens in the mountains.

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    Dumb questions:

    Radio-free stages- why are they doing that?

    TTT- is that each team member riding seperately or as a group?
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    riding as a group

    Quote Originally Posted by Christine
    Dumb questions:

    Radio-free stages- why are they doing that?

    TTT- is that each team member riding seperately or as a group?
    At least 5 riders have to finish.
    The clock stops on the 5th rider.
    All riders finishing ahead of the 5th rider get that same time.
    Dropped riders get there own time but have to finish within a time limit.
    I think it's 25% of your teams time.
    Outside the time limit you're DQ'd out of the TdF.
    Less than 5 riders finish I think the team's DQ'd out of the TdF ( not sure )

    AND it was one wild TTT.
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    Congratulations to Heinrich Haussler on his big solo win today! After the heartbreak he suffered at Milan-San Remo, I hope this cheers him right up!

    This has been an unusually good Tour for breaks!
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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster
    This has been an unusually good Tour for breaks!

    Really? I can only remember yesterday and the break where the peleton mistimed and a rider won by 7sec. Today, yeah the break one but its hard to count breakaways in mountain stages. There is always a gap between 1st & 2nd.

    I guess the yellow is going to get interesting now with tomorrow being the last chance for sprinters.

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    Sure! Of the 11 non-TT stages so far, six of the wins (Voeckler, Feillu, Sanchez, Fedrigo, Sorenson and Haussler) have materialized from some sort of break. It's been fantastic!
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    Anyone get their G-pack yet?

    I'm sooooooooo tired of cash for gold ads.

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    Well, it's an improvement on Bowflex adds, I guess.

    New man in Yellow. Is this thing done like dinner?
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    yeah, the cash gold ads need to stop. I can't imagine anyone would actually send them something.

    I would say this race is over, can't imagine anyone matching Contador in the mountains. BUT, given the amount of climbing left, there are still a couple guys which might be able to make something happen, but that something will have to be epic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster
    Well, it's an improvement on Bowflex adds, I guess.

    New man in Yellow. Is this thing done like dinner?
    I think it is. If you watched Lance...he just didn't have it. Contador has it, bar an accident.

    Only thing left to decide is the the cage match between Hincapie and Jonathan Vaughters. The smart money is on George by knockout in the first round.
    It's only pain......

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    If Conti has a bad day on the bike it wouldn't be to tough to lose 60 to 90 sec. Especially if it happens on Wednesday. Also, Astana did lose one of their best riders.

    Unfortunately for the rest of the bunch he's not only a great climber, hes also one of the best TT'ist right now.

    Do they have the 'house hippo' commercials this year?

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    Sadly, there are no house hippos this year. We have those two retards from Body Break instead.

    Don't forget Contador bonked in Paris-Nice and gave up tons of time. He says it's not going to happen here but you haven't won until you hit Paris. I like Andy's chances to close the gap but he'd probably just lose it again in the TT. If Bradley Wiggins can hold it together through the mountains, he might have shot. Who knows?

    Can someone please tell me what was going through Vaughters' head on Saturday? Cripes!
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    How is wiggins at the individual time trial? I think thats a good opportunity to catch up, hoping for a Contador blow up.

    What about the green jersey? Did Thor lock it down, after Cavendish got delegated the other day?

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    Wiggins is strong in the ITT, some of the other contenders won't want him around the top going into that.

    The green jersey is pretty much locked down. So few points left out on the road, it would take a lot for Cavendish to win it back, pretty much Thor has to miss out on any and all points.

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    There was some analysis done on the Green Jersey a couple of days ago that said that at this point, Cav would have to win almost every sprint in Paris and Thor would need to finish worse than 9th on the last day for it to change hands.

    That being said, you have to finish to win it...
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    I've never been a big Lance fan, but a part of me wanted to see him take all these young whelps to school in the mountain. It was kind of sad to see the post-race interview on Sunday, where he pretty much conceded that he could not catch Contador.

    So...I'm throwing my support behind Thor Husovd for the green jersey. This would be great for Cervelo Test Team (the only canadian team, and the only team sponsored by a bike manufacturer in the tour, and the manufacturer of Unglued's very own road rocket).

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    Cervelo isn't considered a Canadian Team, but none the less good to see them doing well as a wildcard team.

    Thor has it wrapped up, went on a mission today. Cav is seriously mad about the loss of the green jersey battle, so far as to say the jersey on Thor is stained with the win pretty much coming by protest and disqualification from that one sprint.

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    yeah, I've been wondering the whole Cervelo thing and what country they're classifed under. I've heard its because they're owned by someone (in Switzerland), and Cervelo just sponsors, but that sponsorship has no impact on where they're from? Is there anything stopping from them sponsoring a Canadain team (although riders from different countries as currently is)?

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    Looks like Xmas came early for Frank this year! And how about Thor? Take that Cav! Zing!

    Could be a rainy/windy TT. This thing ain't over yet.
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    What about Contadors jerk move where he attacks only to drop Klodden!? I know there is rivarlry in the team but would he be in yellow if the whole squad wasn't turning themselves inside out to ride high tempo and control the race. I'm sure he's gonna get a chewing out by Bruynell tonight!
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    Radio Shack? Seriously? WTF?
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    The real question is how many from Astana will be on Team Radio Shack next year with him?

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    Klodden faded

    Quote Originally Posted by canadian-clydesdale
    What about Contadors jerk move where he attacks only to drop Klodden!? I know there is rivarlry in the team but would he be in yellow if the whole squad wasn't turning themselves inside out to ride high tempo and control the race. I'm sure he's gonna get a chewing out by Bruynell tonight!
    Contador had no choice but to defend the yellow.
    He at least surrendered the stage win to Frank Schleck.
    Then he pasted everybody in the ITT.
    Saturday's mountain stage is going to be fun.
    The last climb is brutal and is going to play havoc with the GC.
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    Finally a Jens Voigt update! Hear it from the man himself!

    http://www.saxobanktakingthelead.com/?p=1217

    Allez Jens!
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    And now we have our first positive: yay.
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    CyclingNews.com says: "RadioShack's already impressive-looking roster, which is likely to include Astana's Yaroslav Popovych, Haimar Zubeldia, Andreas Klöden, Levi Leipheimer, Gregory Rast and Chris Horner".
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