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    Listen! Official Spring Epic Eight Hour Thread

    Well, I am not sure what makes it official...But being it's the first relay race of the season for many of us, I figured I would get this going.

    Who's coming out? What category are you riding? And what are your expectations? It's another opportunity to ride the awesome trails of Manfield in a race format. Always a blast to get out and bomb multiple short laps over the course of the day and enjoy another great Chico event...

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    Hey I'll get in on this action...

    I'm racing the solo category for the first time. Basically I'm using it as a dry run for my 24-hour solo attempt. Should be ...uh...fun?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbmeister
    Well, I am not sure what makes it official...But being it's the first relay race of the season for many of us, I figured I would get this going.
    The purpose of having an official thread, is so that we don't have tons of different threads that discuss the same thing. I like organized.
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    hmmm...

    perhaps perhaps...

    I think a solo would be fun. Go Ecaps!!!
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    Thanks, I agree with you...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkj__
    The purpose of having an official thread, is so that we don't have tons of different threads that discuss the same thing. I like organized.
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    Good luck going solo. I've done it a few time and it is always full of suffering. Love it!!! I'm gonna wait to solo in July at Hardwood.

    I will be running in the 4person Co-ed cat. Taking it easy, have some fun, usually a smaller field, so we figure we will do well, if we don't hit the beer too early.

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    A few of us from NYS are heading up for this one. I'm on a 2 man, and a friend is going Solo. Chico events are absolutely the best.

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    Go Solo

    Yup, I signed up last week for another solo attempt at Mansfield. It's my second go at it. I enjoyed the course last year and I like it because if I don't feel like going again, I just don't go. I'm not holding anyone up and if I'm up for another quick lap, I get off my tail and go.

    I'll be the one sitting in the transition area having a quick rest

    I hope to do the other Epic 8's this year as well. I've only got a 10 person team in for the 24hrs of Summer Solstice so that should just a fun weekend.

    I'm hoping to manage my energy supplies a little better this year. I'm going to switch from water and gatorade to some Hammer HEED and water.

    I am also hoping for some nice weather like we've been having.

    Is anyone camping up there or staying in Alliston? I decided a need to nice sleep in my bed so I'll be driving up from Toronto in the morning.
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    I'll be there in Caledon Cycling Club garb.

    Our team has been training hard and intends on improving our 3 place finish of last year, in the 200+ category. We have even upgraded our wheels to ultra-light, airy, fairy, girly wheels to accelerate past the competition this year. Watch out you team "tba" !
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    I'll be there on a team with norm and a few other riders. no solo suffer-fest for me. should be fun.
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    Always a blast...

    Of course you will have a blast. If this is your first Epic 8, it won't be your last. A great day with some great riders, awesome venue, and the relay is such a hoot. What's your team name? I met Norm (Cumming, right?) last season at the OCUP finale. Will try to find you guys if I can. I have a five man team (I know, that's a lot) entered. Unfortunately, I couldn't get extras and want to keep it to my normal team for the season since we will be hitting the other Epics and two 24 hr venues. That's really what gets the riding blood flowing. Looking really forward to it. As always, will have the cam on and maybe even some upgraded technology!

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    I'll be there on a team with norm and a few other riders. no solo suffer-fest for me. should be fun.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbmeister
    Of course you will have a blast. If this is your first Epic 8, it won't be your last. A great day with some great riders, awesome venue, and the relay is such a hoot. What's your team name? I met Norm (Cumming, right?) last season at the OCUP finale. Will try to find you guys if I can. I have a five man team (I know, that's a lot) entered. Unfortunately, I couldn't get extras and want to keep it to my normal team for the season since we will be hitting the other Epics and two 24 hr venues. That's really what gets the riding blood flowing. Looking really forward to it. As always, will have the cam on and maybe even some upgraded technology!

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    Yup, norm c. Super-nice guy .I don't know our team name though.

    This will be my first 8 hour event. I experienced my first relay races last year at the two 24h events at Albion.
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    Ahh I cannot come. Last week when I was driving to Albion I got nailed with speeding ticket, 135km/h on the 407 when the speed of traffic was at least 130km/h

    As a result I have 277$ to pay up... friggin highway patrol.

    So no race for me. Working!! yippee.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superlightracer
    Ahh I cannot come. Last week when I was driving to Albion I got nailed with speeding ticket, 135km/h on the 407 when the speed of traffic was at least 130km/h

    As a result I have 277$ to pay up... friggin highway patrol.

    So no race for me. Working!! yippee.
    Thanks for reminding me that the flow of traffic is not the legal speed limit.
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    I'm on a 3 person mixed team. My 1st 8 hour race. Have done five 24 hr races and am looking forward to this. Laps I've been told are approximately 10km? I'm hoping we'll do 2-3 laps at a time to have a little time in between to refuel, socialize, etc. before heading out again. Good luck to everyone! Anyone know when we can preride the course?

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    Likely not until later this week...

    Not sure, other than I was planning to do a GPS profile with Chico when they mark the course. Apparently, that will be either tomorrow or later in the week. Not sure how much they might change the course from previous Spring Epics, but you are correct, it will be around 10km. Lot's of nice singletrack with a couple of good climbs thrown in...Good luck to you guys too. I will be shooting here, if you see me with the cam on, please say hello.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Merdoff
    I'm on a 3 person mixed team. My 1st 8 hour race. Have done five 24 hr races and am looking forward to this. Laps I've been told are approximately 10km? I'm hoping we'll do 2-3 laps at a time to have a little time in between to refuel, socialize, etc. before heading out again. Good luck to everyone! Anyone know when we can preride the course?
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    yes, it says laps are 10 km. That is quite short. Hammer time the whole way then break

    then repeat
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    Silly me

    Just checked my emails and e-mail from Matt @ Chico indicated course is available to pre-ride Friday from 4pm-8pm which is subject to Mansfield entry fee of $7. Looks like I won't get an opportunity to pre-ride as I'm working til 6 pm.

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    A few climbs? Similar to past O-cups?

    Never ridden there, probably won't be able to do a pre-ride. Any other info on the course would greatly be appreciated - am riding solo. I guess I'll have lots of time to get used to the course! ; )

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    The course is geared towards speed without too much climbing, making it great for solos and teams alike.
    I am expecting an easier course than the O-Cup, but maybe i am just being a fool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rkj__
    I am expecting an easier course than the O-Cup, but maybe i am just being a fool.
    last years course was a (near) carbon copy of this past o-cup.

    and let me tell you, traffic stank for the first 2hrs at least...busy busy busy. 30-40min laps is the norm.



    i say one large loop prior to the first lap, all the double track climbs (around the perimeter) BEFORE the first real lap.

    we will be 8 strong all riding solo but holding hands with our TR partners, a bonding experience donchaknow.
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    Single Speed Gearing?

    Hey Yall,
    Seeing as yall were spot on for SS gearing in the P2A race.
    Can anybody suggest which set up to run @ Mansfield for this event?
    I am thinking of going solo on my 29er and it is set up as 34x16 right now.
    Do ya think I should add a few teeth on the back?

    What ratio is all the other SS'ers runnin?

    It should be a blast to hit the trails at mansfield with y'all.

    Thanks for the info and see ya there.

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    take my ratio with a grain of salt as i am not only riding the 8hr solo but with the intention to ride some miles the day prior and the day after...

    i will be running 32:19 all day. it can be soft at mansfield in spots, like i said, recovery and mileage for the weekend are the priorities.


    i jumped down from 32:17 on the pre-ride to 32:19 on the day-of the mansfiled ocup...no regrets, everything ride-y-a-ble by the end of the race and soft enough to accommodate the GRANNIES (of course rings i mean) on the course at the beginning.

    nothing worse then mashing or walking a climb early b/c you couldn't slow up your pace with traffic.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McGyver29er
    Hey Yall,
    Seeing as yall were spot on for SS gearing in the P2A race.
    Can anybody suggest which set up to run @ Mansfield for this event?
    I am thinking of going solo on my 29er and it is set up as 34x16 right now.
    Do ya think I should add a few teeth on the back?

    What ratio is all the other SS'ers runnin?

    It should be a blast to hit the trails at mansfield with y'all.

    Thanks for the info and see ya there.
    I ran 34x20 at the first 0-cup, and the first climb was tough. I'd say run a similar run out or lower, depending on the number of laps you plan to do.
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    Hey everyone! I'll be riding Solo on a silver & Orange Cannondale Rush (Probably wearing Liberty! Bicycles jerseys most of the day). Say hello if you see me.

    For me, this is a training ride for the 24-hour solo attempt, so I'm going to do everything I can to keep my heart rate WAY down the whole day. I'm looking at this as a 1/3rd segment of the 24. So I'm going to try to eat, drink and ride exactly how I would be during the 24. Who knows if I can stick to that strategy, but I'll certainly try.

    Basically, just like with my 24-hour attempt, this is just about survival

    Good luck to all!

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    Good plan ddakin. If you can ride for 8 hrs, you can do a 24 hr race solo. Lots of pro's and guys who I know who race the 24hrs solo never do training rides longer than 6-8 hrs. I'm sticking to that kind of training as well and it's worked out for me. It's 90% mental, 10% physical.

    I'm not peaking right now, so I planned to use it as a training ride, work out my nutrition strategies, etc. Had a bit of a hiccup in the plan as my new race bike won't be completed before the weekend, so I will be stuck riding my SS, (32:16). Hard to keep the heart rate down on that! My pit crew had to also back out, so looks like I'll be self supporting too. It will still be a hoot and a good training day.

    I'll be wearing a Tall Tree Cycles jersey (green and white) ridig a green Surly 1x1. If you see me, say hi as well!

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    If you want to set your stuff up beside mine in the solo area I'd be fine with that. I'll be bringing all my tools and a work stand.

    What's holding you back from finishing your race bike? What do you need for it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddakin
    p.s. Ryan - how are you getting up there?
    the plan was to get dropped off in Hamilton, where i would then carpool with norm from there. but, if you have an open space, i think we could work something out. it would save my parents 2h worth of driving.

    PM or email me back if you want to work something out.
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    Good luck soloing Dakin @ Barley...I'm going duo.

    How are the course conditions up that way...dry? Just thinking of tire choices.
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    Dry, but not too dry...

    Haven't ridden Mansfield this season, but it is generally dry there unless it's actually raining. That said it's not a dust bowl either like some other venues get when the rain has stayed away for a while. Dry set up is good. Ground is reasonably hard right now for the most part. It's not supposed to rain between now and Saturday, so it should be nice and fast.

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    Good luck soloing Dakin @ Barley...I'm going duo.

    How are the course conditions up that way...dry? Just thinking of tire choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddakin
    If you want to set your stuff up beside mine in the solo area I'd be fine with that. I'll be bringing all my tools and a work stand.

    What's holding you back from finishing your race bike? What do you need for it?
    Thanks for the invite - but I'll be heading over with a friend who will also be soloing. I can use his tent and stuff. Cheers though!

    I'm sponsored by a shop here in Ottawa who is having me ride a Niner this season, all the parts haven't shown up yet. I sold my geared bike to pay for the difference in the sponsorship - hence, riding the SS. No big deal - the legs will be hurting though.

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    Is anyone else getting super excited about this race or what? Maybe it's because I'm not entering it to win or because there's not the pressure of a road race, but I'm jonesing to get this race going and for once I'm not nervous.

    I really think it's going to be a blast.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddakin
    Is anyone else getting super excited about this race or what? Maybe it's because I'm not entering it to win or because there's not the pressure of a road race, but I'm jonesing to get this race going and for once I'm not nervous.

    I really think it's going to be a blast.

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    in a sick sadistic kind of way, yes.

    8hrs ought to be a good indicator of just how well the riding has gone to this point.
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    Ahh... I'm not getting super excited. I've got a nice warm fuzzy glow about this race, that's all. This is my first real race of the year so it's more a chance to get out and say hello to everyone.
    Saturday morning is coming up fast, get a good nights sleep tonight eh?
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    ... and if we just ... I too am Jonesing!

    I know what you mean Dan. I really mostly do the relays with a team every year with a couple others sprinkled in here and there. This is really the first race of the season following the winter hibernation, so me and the fellas on the team are itching to get out and hammer out the laps...And Mansfield is such a blast, so it will be fantastic...Saturday will be here fast as you say Dave...

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    Quote Originally Posted by dskunk
    Ahh... I'm not getting super excited. I've got a nice warm fuzzy glow about this race, that's all. This is my first real race of the year so it's more a chance to get out and say hello to everyone.
    Saturday morning is coming up fast, get a good nights sleep tonight eh?
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    if this race goes well, i might want to do an 8h at hardwood, since i wont be doing the o-cups there this year.

    tomorrow is a rest day for me - no riding. can't go into a race tired.

    what is the atmosphere at the 8 hour events like? are the shimano repair guys there?
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    As DSkunk says, get a good night sleep tonight (Thursday). It's the night before the eve of the race that really counts for your sleep. If you get a good night sleep on a Thursday and then have trouble sleeping Friday, you'll still be good for the Saturday.

    Believe it or not, research has shown the night before a big effort is less important than two nights before.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddakin
    As DSkunk says, get a good night sleep tonight (Thursday). It's the night before the eve of the race that really counts for your sleep. If you get a good night sleep on a Thursday and then have trouble sleeping Friday, you'll still be good for the Saturday.

    Believe it or not, research has shown the night before a big effort is less important than two nights before.
    interesting. i'll be sure to get to bed at a reasonable hour tonight.
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    For anyone who didn't notice, the course map is now up at http://www.chicoracing.com/html/modu...rtid=11&page=3

    Could someone who has ridden there a lot comment on what this course might be like? How tough are the climbs? How sketchy are the downhills? Etc. Etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddakin
    For anyone who didn't notice, the course map is now up at http://www.chicoracing.com/html/modu...rtid=11&page=3

    Could someone who has ridden there a lot comment on what this course might be like? How tough are the climbs? How sketchy are the downhills? Etc. Etc.
    the o-cup course had me walking up a few hills. but, hey, that does not mean you can't do it. the downhills are a blast. late braking is key, so that you can carry the high speed for as long as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rkj__
    if this race goes well, i might want to do an 8h at hardwood, since i wont be doing the o-cups there this year.

    tomorrow is a rest day for me - no riding. can't go into a race tired.

    what is the atmosphere at the 8 hour events like? are the shimano repair guys there?

    Hey Ryan... I've not seen the Shimano guys there before...

    Good luck

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    Not as tough as OCUP

    I know from talking to Sean @ Chico that this course will not be as tough as the OCUP course. I don't believe you have to walk anything based on looking at the map. Last year, there was a section that could be deemed a "hike a bike" for many, but some rode it with a great effort. As you said Ryan, downhills rock, but there is sand that you have to be cognisent of at 40-55km/hr. Soft landing, but nobody wants to go down...

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkj__
    the o-cup course had me walking up a few hills. but, hey, that does not mean you can't do it. the downhills are a blast. late braking is key, so that you can carry the high speed for as long as possible.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddakin
    Believe it or not, research has shown the night before a big effort is less important than two nights before.
    ohhhh...well i just got finished at albion...it's now 0:55 Friday...i seem to have missed some thing here....
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    hmmm...

    when it is dry at mansfield, it is not as when it is dry at albion in my opinion... although one can use semi-slicks at mansfield when it is dry - i think a bit more thread on tires is a better option as mansfield is very sandy and relatively soft in places...

    now, by the look of the course, it does not contain any technical longish climbs like it did last weekend for the lifestyle of the rich and famous 24 hour race...

    in any case, semi-slicks will work, but make sure they have some side knobs that will hold the line through some soft corners...

    i will be using Michelin Comp S Light UST... i wanted to try Schwalbe Racing Ralphs but they are on brand new wheels and i dont want to try them in the race - so they will be spare...

    Michelin Jet S would be a good tire too, as it has excellent side knobs for good cornering...

    hope this helps...


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    ohhhh...well i just got finished at albion...it's now 0:55 Friday...i seem to have missed some thing here....

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    Single-track is fast and flowing, with very little technical issues. There are 2 long climbs that need pacing but are not too difficult. The long downhills can be sandy and sketchy, so brake carefully and keep your weight back and front wheel straight.

    I used Pythons last year and had no problems, but as said before, using slicks with few knobs could be trouble as you will be carrying a lot of speed around corners and there are loose sections if the course has not seen rain.

    I also raced my hartail last year without issues as well.
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    i hope to start my build tonight after the kids go to bed.
    new bike built at night untested then ridden for 8hrs...what is the worst that can happen?

    maybe black...
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    the worst that can happen?

    it's got GEARS?????

    Quote Originally Posted by nogearshere
    i hope to start my build tonight after the kids go to bed.
    new bike built at night untested then ridden for 8hrs...what is the worst that can happen?

    maybe black...

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    Anyone remember length of course last year?
    Was it about the same as this year?

    Our team is having disagreements about how many laps to plan for. I'm thinking 14 is good to shoot for, 15 would be a dream.
    SUCCESS - To be able to spend life in your own way

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    just over 10k

    lentght is about the same as last year, but the layout is different...

    15 is a good number for a good team...


    Quote Originally Posted by Ricksom
    Anyone remember length of course last year?
    Was it about the same as this year?

    Our team is having disagreements about how many laps to plan for. I'm thinking 14 is good to shoot for, 15 would be a dream.

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    Ummmmmm, you are kidding right!!!???

    Well, any of the following:

    - tire blowoff
    - wheel warpage
    - chain skipping, ghost shifting
    - crank arms falling off
    - brakes falling off
    - stem and headset loosening
    - disc brake sticking sending you over the bars
    - chain suck
    - sore azz, crippled hands, aching back

    And worst of all, someone will most likely crash into it on lap one.
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