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    Quote Originally Posted by bishskate View Post
    Edit: realise the P2A can't be compared with CN climb
    True.

    But when I was collapsed on the glass floor, legs burning, gasping for air, and tasting blood, I noticed that there were some... uncanny similarities.
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    On second thought (after 3 hours in the Don today) perhaps I will just cheer people on instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bishskate View Post
    On second thought (after 3 hours in the Don today) perhaps I will just cheer people on instead.
    Don't let that discourage you. The Don is technical and hilly. The P2A is reasonably flat apart from the final climb and mostly wide open roads and rail trails. It's apples and oranges. Riding hard for 3 hours at the P2A would get you most of the way to the finish. And you've got the better part of 3 months between now and then to get stronger.
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    I'm thinking the 40K sounds like a good choice for me.


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    i think i will do this race this year. the extra 10km has some people fretting. does anyone know what type of riding the extra 10k is? if it's all uphill my 260 pounds will slow me down

    a quick link to my video from last year. hope to do one this year that maybe will be dry and warm out

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    I haven't done this in a few years, but I am really looking forward to it this year. FINALLY recovered from my knee issues and surgeries over the past few years.

    I am also curious about what will be in that extra 10K. On the plus side I have been shedding weight as I have started to prep for this from 289 on Jan 2 to 275 yesterday. I'd be thrilled if I was in the 250-255 range on April 14, and I'm sure my legs would thank me on that final hill too!

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    Noticed a few comments re the additional 10 km. 2km are a graveled tractor path in an orchard, 2km are gravel road, 1km is rail trail, 3km are dirt farm lanes, 1km of pavement, 1km of ?. Other new sectors that do not affect distance are also included. The long muddy lane that began with a dismount to slide under/around a fallen tree has been replaced with an all weather farm lane as well. No change to the overall feel of the race though.

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    Jonathan Page racing this years P2A... awesome. Safe to say we all just dropped a placing

    » Jonathan Page starts Paris to Ancaster in Ontario | Canadian Cycling Magazine

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    Quote Originally Posted by CptSydor View Post
    dude, you are a fukking movie star... will they keep you on the cast for episode 2 and 3?

    I like your body language and facial expressions. awesome!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by nspace View Post
    Jonathan Page racing this years P2A... awesome. Safe to say we all just dropped a placing

    » Jonathan Page starts Paris to Ancaster in Ontario | Canadian Cycling Magazine
    As long as his chain stays out of his spokes and he doesn't flat... often.
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    You'll have to stayed tuned.......maybe I'll make it up Sydenham next time.

    Quote Originally Posted by osokolo View Post
    dude, you are a fukking movie star... will they keep you on the cast for episode 2 and 3?

    I like your body language and facial expressions. awesome!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CptSydor View Post
    The first picture gives the impression that riding Paris-Ancaster either causes hair loss or is required to ride.

    Edited after watching the movie:
    It's nicely done but a lightweight piece of fluff.
    Getting ready for my first Paris-Ancaster, I was hoping for something at least half useful. I wish training for the race involved rides on a beautiful summer day. Where's the cold rides in the dark, trying to get some miles in?
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    The back ground thought was to get people excited and cater to a wide demographic (like those that participate in Paris to Ancaster). It's tough to make it overly technical. I doubt people would watch Jason riding in the dark .

    But if you are looking for CX and general bike handling techniques...

    Episode 2

    How To Win Paris-Ancaster: Episode 2 - "Skills" | RIDING FEELS GOOD

    Quote Originally Posted by Slash5 View Post
    The first picture gives the impression that riding Paris-Ancaster either causes hair loss or is required to ride.

    Edited after watching the movie:
    It's nicely done but a lightweight piece of fluff.
    Getting ready for my first Paris-Ancaster, I was hoping for something at least half useful. I wish training for the race involved rides on a beautiful summer day. Where's the cold rides in the dark, trying to get some miles in?

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    For those that are interested....

    Episode 3

    How To Win Paris-Ancaster: Episode 3 - "Guidance" | RIDING FEELS GOOD

    Episode 4 (Some sweet race footage to get your jacked to rip it)

    How To Win Paris-Ancaster: Episode 4 - "Pressure" | RIDING FEELS GOOD

    Episode 5 was shown at the release party and stars Anne Guzman (local elite level racer nutritionist). Very good info coming next week.

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    Re: Official P2A 2013 Paris 2 Ancaster thread

    We'll... I'm in for the wave 1 start. Should be an interesting ride. Will probably cough up a lung at the end of it but that's just part off the fun!

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    How bad is the final climb? I'm signed up for my first P2A and can't decide between geared or singlespeed. I want to ride the SS because I prefer it, but I'm a little concerned about my ability to deal with the final climb with only one gear. For those familiar with both, is it comparable to the 7th concession climb from 3 Rock to Durham Forest?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Face Visor View Post
    How bad is the final climb? I'm signed up for my first P2A and can't decide between geared or singlespeed. I want to ride the SS because I prefer it, but I'm a little concerned about my ability to deal with the final climb with only one gear. For those familiar with both, is it comparable to the 7th concession climb from 3 Rock to Durham Forest?
    Haven't ridden that climb, so no comparison, but here is the elevation profile.



    I think Martin Road has more bark than actual bite which has developed over the years. Seeing as the P2A is very much a citizen event, it's pretty tough for your average, recreational cyclist after what for them was likely a grueling 60 km. So it's developed a bit of a aura around it.

    The tough part is km 1.5 to 1.7. That's only 200 m. Many people walk, geared or not and it won't change your time that much. If you prefer the singlespeed ride it. And as most people say, gear for the first 58 km where there is minimal hills, not the last 2 km.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Face Visor View Post
    How bad is the final climb? I'm signed up for my first P2A and can't decide between geared or singlespeed. I want to ride the SS because I prefer it, but I'm a little concerned about my ability to deal with the final climb with only one gear. For those familiar with both, is it comparable to the 7th concession climb from 3 Rock to Durham Forest?
    If you are using a standard trail SS gearing (ie 32:18) then the final climb is totally doable. But of course you will have been spinning like a gerbil for the previous 69km. My advice: Run a gear for the first 69 km and push up that steep 200m at the end. When I last did it on my Singlespeed I ran a 44:16 gearing and cyclocross tires. No way I was making it up Martin Road but I still finished in under 3 hours
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    Thanks for the advice CptSydor and Unglued. I'll guess I'll ride the SS and be prepared to push up the end, just need to figure out gearing, 44:16 sounds way too tall for me. I did the Tour de King last year on 34:20, which was a little short so I'll try something taller like 34:17.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Face Visor View Post
    How bad is the final climb? I'm signed up for my first P2A and can't decide between geared or singlespeed. I want to ride the SS because I prefer it, but I'm a little concerned about my ability to deal with the final climb with only one gear. For those familiar with both, is it comparable to the 7th concession climb from 3 Rock to Durham Forest?
    They are very different , the 7th conc. climb is longer, 4.5k with about 130 meters of climbing over the whole thing, and it is a true road, whereas I don't think you can drive a car up martin road (correct me if I'm wrong here people...I have done it 5+ times, but I am usually seeing triple by that point. CptCydor nails it with the final 200 meters. If you know the climb up the backside of Dagmar (east of 3 rocks) it's a similar exhaustive experience, only worse because you hit it at the end of the race.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tommy View Post
    whereas I don't think you can drive a car up martin road (correct me if I'm wrong here people...I have done it 5+ times, but I am usually seeing triple by that point.
    1/2 the road is permanently closed now and resembles an old, muddy farm/tractor/4x4 lane. The other 1/2 is open (or parts only seasonally). There is a residence on Martin road and during the spring/summer/fall is a nicely grated dirt road.
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    That helps put it in context. I'm not familiar with the Dagmar climb (I'll have to check it out) but based on Strava segment info I'm imagining something more like the Wall of Pain in Durham, just much longer.
    Now to plan out some longer hill intervals for the next couple weeks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Face Visor View Post
    For those familiar with both, is it comparable to the 7th concession climb from 3 Rock to Durham Forest?
    No. Its worse but its also much shorter. The 3 Rock to Durham Forest climb is doable on a SS without much trouble, its just long and annoying. Martin hill is much shorter, but the grade is incredible at some points, and is much more "technical" during the beginning and mid parts.

    Hope that helps.


    Edit: Someone already answered it... my bad
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    IMO the hill isn't that doable on an SS if you gear for the majority of the race. The race is pretty flat compared to the grades of the Martin hill at the end. Last time I raced I found it quicker to run it than to attempt to ride it pushing a big gear.

    For the SSers, what gearing are you running?

    I ran 42:18 last time and could use a bit more punch on the flats. Considering going to a 44t ring, but I am not sure. The other hills in the race are all a blur in my mind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Face Visor View Post
    That helps put it in context. I'm not familiar with the Dagmar climb (I'll have to check it out) but based on Strava segment info I'm imagining something more like the Wall of Pain in Durham, just much longer.
    Now to plan out some longer hill intervals for the next couple weeks
    Yeah, longer, wider though, and not nearly as tough as the final 50 feet of WoP (only it will be much tougher after 70k or riding)

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    How to win P2A, Episode 6. Work, with hints about getting more ingredients on your sub or in a burrito. Brilliant

    How To Win Paris-Ancaster - Episode 6 - "Work" | RIDING FEELS GOOD

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    This series is great, look forward to them every week.

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    Next Episode....'Future'

    Really not about Paris to Ancaster. Jason is a passionate cyclist, from MTB, road, CX and commuting. His goal with this project was to maybe inspire some one to pick up cycling, maybe improve their health by being more active (he's currently finishing up med school)

    Some great information in the episode. Fill out the survey if you have the time. Shouldn't take long.

    How To Win Paris-Ancaster: Episode 7 - "Future" | RIDING FEELS GOOD

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    Tim Farrar please check your pms

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    Quote Originally Posted by ol-crank View Post
    Tim Farrar please check your pms
    Although it's possible that Tim has notification set up, he isn't a regular participant on mtbr as far as I know (unless user account names have gotten me confused). Probably best to send an email to him instead using whatever contact info is available on the event web site rather than trying to call him out here with a post to check PMs.

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    thanks - yea that makes a lot more sense,

    Quote Originally Posted by Circlip View Post
    Although it's possible that Tim has notification set up, he isn't a regular participant on mtbr as far as I know (unless user account names have gotten me confused). Probably best to send an email to him instead using whatever contact info is available on the event web site rather than trying to call him out here with a post to check PMs.
    now the second message is to god, asking for a sunny day, and no wind. And maybe flatten that last hill a little bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ol-crank View Post
    now the second message is to god, asking for a sunny day, and no wind. And maybe flatten that last hill a little bit.
    Although it's possible that god has notification set up, he/she isn't a regular participant on mtbr as far as I know (unless user account names have gotten me confused). Probably best to send an email to her/him instead (try god@heaven.org ?) rather than trying to call him/her out here.

    I do support your desire for sunny days and flat winds though. Good call on both.

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    I do support your desire for sunny days and flat winds though.
    Here here!

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWiseFool View Post
    Here here!
    Anyone remember the 2008 P2A? The sun was out, I was in a short sleeve jersey and bibs, and got a sunburn. Somehow it didn't seem right....

    But I'll take it!
    Strava made me do it....

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    If the temp is above 10 C I'll be in shorts.... For that matter, and if the temp is below 10 I'll be in shorts. So it better be above!

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    Not to say that there are people who are praying for world peace, end to famine and things that matter which I guess is what his inbox would look like if there was a god, or if he had some sort of ISP in the first place. I don't know, I don't pretend to understand. Though I guess there is proof because he gave us bikes and beer so theres gotta be something to this. This post does not reflect any beliefs or otherwise of all MTBR members. So don't neg me bro.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 14Stone View Post



    Not to say that there are people who are praying for world peace, end to famine and things that matter which I guess is what his inbox would look like if there was a god, or if he had some sort of ISP in the first place. I don't know, I don't pretend to understand. Though I guess there is proof because he gave us bikes and beer so theres gotta be something to this. This post does not reflect any beliefs or otherwise of all MTBR members. So don't neg me bro.
    I think god gave us trees, the bicycles and beer came from the greedy capitalists that look after our vices for profit. Yea capitalists.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheWiseFool View Post
    If the temp is above 10 C I'll be in shorts.... For that matter, and if the temp is below 10 I'll be in shorts. So it better be above!
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    Looks promising but wet. I really hope it doesn't rain until AFTER P2A. I don't want to slug through farmers fields in fresh mud.

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    So this seems like fun after watching the vids (but, I think I like the same "not so fun" type of fun).
    There could be a chance that I'll be back down home (Simcoe) testing the MX bike at Gopher dunes on the saturday. If so, I'll see if I can work it to do the 40km race since I'll have only a few days on the MTB. Plus the first ride of the season at Gopher dunes (Probably the roughest toughest MX track in Canada) you are pretty sore the next morning.
    If I have this weekend free I'll make sure I get out and find a place in the Ottawa area to work the new bike.

    So if you notice a guy wearing a MX jersey with improper pants/shorts, flat pedals and a brand new looking bike it's likely me. Wave when you pass!

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    more tips for P2A newbies,


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    Re: Official P2A 2013 Paris 2 Ancaster thread

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    I see they have graded Slote Rd from Mineral Springs to Powerline Rd. Did a nice job, it's a bit loose but not deep.
    Been trying to decide between running MTB tires and wheels or Cross tires and wheels. With the forecast, MTB is sounding better and better.

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    Went to an eye-opening local meeting about the Dundas Valley Conservation Area last night. Found out that a few local residents are deeply opposed to P2A, ostensibly because they're concerned about the number of salamanders crushed by bicycles on the road allowances. Personally, I think it's a symptom of a deeper antipathy towards cyclists. I had no idea it was even an issue (though I'm sure the organisers know!).

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