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    Official all-things-Woodstock mountain biking thread

    Just wondering if theres anyone from Woodstock Ontario thats rides frequently? Id like to join ya

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    I live in Tillsonburg.
    The crew and I ride the Pines on a regular basis.
    If you see (usually on a Wed night) a bunch of DH bikes railing the berms on the 354 trail that would be us.
    One of my best friends lives in Woodstock - he also rides the pines on a Titus ElGuapo.

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    Scotty... think you messaged me on PinkBike last year about riding in Woodstock, lol! What bike do you ride out here, have we run into each other on the trails yet?

    I have thought about starting a Woodstock thread here in MTBR Ontario with trail maps, photos, witty banter and irrelevant news... anyone think that's a good idea? Woodstock Cycling Club has a Facebook page but I don't do Facebook so, umm, ya.

    There are a bunch of locals that ride the trails but it's a free-for-all, no real set riding times or group rides, people just happen to run into each other on after-work rides or weekend rides. That said, group rides do happen just rather spontaneously.

    I'm out there Monday and Wednesday nights helping with the Youth Program. I'm also out there randomly being a Berm Donor And sometimes I'll just ride out from town and boot around the trails for a bit.

    Michael I've definitely run into you and your crew out there hitting the gravel-pit jump! Are you talking about me or is there another fella out there riding an El Guapo? May 2-4 weekend we did a group ride at the Don Valley trails and I ran into a guy on a 2nd-gen frame and had a quick "hey! I got the same bike!" talk with him, there are definitely a couple frames running around here in Ontario.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyPb View Post
    Just wondering if theres anyone from Woodstock Ontario thats rides frequently?
    If the thread starter ScottyPb doesn't mind I could change the thread title for you guys to make this the "Official Woodstock mountain biking thread" or whatever else you choose.

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    I have thought about starting a Woodstock thread here in MTBR Ontario with trail maps, photos, witty banter and irrelevant news...

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    A buddy who lives in Woodstock has a small grey ElGuapo with a Lyric / RP23.
    His name is also michael.

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    I don't mind at all. I think it's a great idea!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mykel View Post
    VR6ix

    A buddy who lives in Woodstock has a small grey ElGuapo with a Lyric / RP23.
    His name is also michael.

    michael
    That's awesome... haven't seen that bike around yet.
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    im just starting to ride more aggressively So I havnt been out to the pines yet. But I plan to real soon. Ill be riding an 07 Specialized Hardrock SS , black. I just got the bike a month ago and have spent that time getting it working and looking good

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    I had an Awsome day in Paris today. I think its called barkers bush. that place is full of trails. Lots of jumps, a lot of down hill but also alot of up hill. Theres some seriously challenging runs there. Just thought id share that with you guys, you should check it out if you havnt.

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    I got rid of the tensioner...made my self a half link




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    i'm from woodstock. i don't really have a time that i go there. i usually go around noon the last little while to the pines. thinking of going up to joyride this week to see what their set up is like. if i can get some time to this weekend, i may head out to kitchener for the hydrocut *shrug*

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    wait a minute. I thought there are only hippies in woodstock.

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    nope just teenagers that get knocked up that hang out at tim hortons, and the meth addicts that hang out at the fountain downtown.

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    nope just teenagers that get knocked up that hang out at tim hortons, and the meth addicts that hang out at the fountain downtown.
    Nailed it!!! lol

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    well i've learnt that if there's any mud at all? the race kings i've got my wheels ain't going to do jack squat at the pines. man i'd hate to try them in real mud.

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    ya it was pretty slippery yesterday. I had a good day in Paris. Just a little mucky in spots.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFW84 View Post
    nope just teenagers that get knocked up that hang out at tim hortons, and the meth addicts that hang out at the fountain downtown.
    Ha, first thing I noticed here in town was all the kids with kids! Now all I notice is the urban McMansion sprawl creeping all along the outside of the city
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    yeah well those people that work at toyota and the supporting plants got to live somewhere! most of them are lego houses and aren't very expensive. i know this just because i'm friends with some of the bigger builders. i just hate those people from those neighbourhoods that run in packs for some reason, on the roads when i am visiting friends.

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    Any way, bikes!


    Woodstock Cycling Club is the original WCC since 1896 (sorry Waterloo but we love you too! Hydrocut rocks! And you guys get WAY more people out for trail-work days! RESPECT).



    **OLD** Trail Map (PDF file link):
    http://www.woodstockcyclingclub.ca/pdf/trail_map.pdf



    Speaking of Trail Maps, this is a good point in time to mention that there are *NEW* trail signs out at The Pines! ... aaaaand none of the trail numbers on the old map will match-up any more. New map coming soon!?? Trails are all the same as the old map basically. This isn't 3 Stage, you can't get THAT lost out here...

    Green is an easier route that will lead to/from the parking lot. Red is the standard intermediate trail. Black is the more difficult off-cuts and extra loops. 354 is the megasweet trail with 350m elevation change and 4 switch-back descent/climbs. There's other stuff too, like the Wall Ride and the Gravel Pit booter and The Toilet Bowl, and the poor pump track that is actually pretty descent but it just needs a serious run-in with the weed wackers.

    Trail base is sand and gravel so it drains very well. The top organic layer is still slick in the wet but it's thin, and wet roots are wet roots no mater where you are in the world, BUT you can ride The Pines in a downpour without too much extra trouble. It's very similar to the pines sections Puslinch, just without the mixed hardwood technical trails found on the South trails. Awesome late fall/early winter riding since it takes a long time for the snow to start accumulating. Downside is the land is low and close to the river so it's proper wet in the spring for a while. Drainage is why so much of the land is realistically unusable when you look at the maps.

    Nevegals always work at The Pines. Fast tires with tiny knobs are great in the dry. Anything tacky or damp or full-on wet needs good rubber with low pressures, PERIOD. You're only as fast as your lines and your tires on many parts of these trails, but Legs and Lungs will prevail on all the rest unless it's slick as $#!^ and you have no finesse. There is no proper Ontario technical riding out here, just the obstacles we manufacture.

    All trail work performed strictly by volunteers (Hi! ) so come on out and grab a shovel or man a weed wacker or swing a rake for a while. Apparently there's a FacePlace page http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=301728763256 which can be a great way to check what's going on. Personally I have a severe allergy to data-mining masquerading as "social media" so I stick with forums instead.

    And then here's the deal: The land we use for trails is leased from the Upper Thames River Conservation Authority. Part of the lease is insurance... dot dot dot, it's supposed to be "Members Only".

    That said, please get out and try the trails!!! If you visit often enough during the season please consider going to Pedal Power Bikes & Boards in Downtown Woodstock and buying a membership to the club. The $50 helps support the trails by financing the lease and insurance, covering the trail maintenance expenses, funding the costs for the annual 6hr Dairy Capitol Classic Relay Race, and supporting the Annual General Meeting in the winter where everyone is invited to re-cap the season with food and drink and cheer and merriment etc. In reality, we go ride all the other trail systems out in Ontario, so we hope you like our trails is the bottom line.

    There is a coin box by the main signs in the parking lot if you feel like tossing a bit of change our way to buy some gas for the mower and weed wackers. From the looks of things we need a separate barrel for empty beer cans & bottles, those are as good as gas money too THIS IS A GOOD POINT TO SAY: DON'T @%^#ING LITTER OUT HERE, EH??? Use the garbage cans people! thx! Props to any riders that pick-up after careless trail users.

    PLEASE YELL, SCREAM AND CURSE AT ANY RIDERS YOU SEE WITHOUT A HELMET!!! Seriously, there are plenty of miscreants that ride out from town to see these trails, PLEASE harp on them harshly about riding WITHOUT a helmet. Just use an ounce of judgement as you lay into them. And if you ride-in on the Back Door, please watch for fishing-people on the gravel path under the rail bridge, it's over-grown in the summer and hard to see people around corners. Oh, that's right: there's the Pittock Trail all the way from the West end of the Thames going all the way out to the Toyota Rail Bridge, fantastic warm-up ride instead of driving to the trail head.

    Any who, we have also been running a Youth Program recently with very encouraging results! Twice weekly rides with local riders helping the kids to develop basic and advanced skills to have fun out on the trails. It's been fantastic to watch these young riders become familiar with the trails and grow their riding skills! Just one benefit of rampart procreation is plenty of young talent to turn onto the singletrack... kidding! But really, this is cool, and it's growing bigger!

    There are myriad social rides throughout the year as well for road rides, mountain bike rides, destination rides, event rides, etc. It's not just mountain bikes, there are lots of club activities! Did I mention that Woodstock finally has a public concrete "skate park" for any 20"-wheel people? And plenty of urban riding for all sorts of styles?

    As mentioned, we put on the 6-hour Dairy Capitol Classic relay race each fall, and last year boasted the best weather in a while and the largest racer turn-out ever! This year the DCC 6hr Race is Saturday September 14th, the 14th Annual Race, please car-pool because if last year is any indication we're gonna run out of parking this year!



    I think that cover things. Feel free to copy-paste this post into any other relevant local forums
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    Good info VR6ix

    Do they still offer the $10 trial membership? I only get out to the Pines once a year on average and drop a twoonie in the box, I'd like to get out there a couple more times a year and support the club without being a full fledged member, as my club dues for the year go to my local club.

    The trail improvements that have been done in the last couple of years are great BTW.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikin' Bric View Post
    Do they still offer the $10 trial membership? I only get out to the Pines once a year on average and drop a twoonie in the box, I'd like to get out there a couple more times a year and support the club without being a full fledged member, as my club dues for the year go to my local club.

    The trail improvements that have been done in the last couple of years are great BTW.
    Excellent question, I will ask, don't know if they're doing that this season or not. Thanks for coming out! If you're only out once or twice a season I wouldn't worry about it much.
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    i keep riding past that one part of the trail that's still closed, awaiting to see when it's finally going to be open that's for sure.

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    and with the rain? unless you've got something with at least a little bit of the side walls with some grip and those tires are rated to handle mud, man don't even think about it. holy monkey. i fell on my ass a couple of times in the first portion alone today! gave up, went to pedal power and promptly order an x king tire for the rear wheel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SFW84 View Post
    and with the rain? unless you've got something with at least a little bit of the side walls with some grip and those tires are rated to handle mud, man don't even think about it. holy monkey. i fell on my ass a couple of times in the first portion alone today! gave up, went to pedal power and promptly order an x king tire for the rear wheel.
    You're right, with all this rain recently it's best to run a big aggressive tire and just live with the extra weight and slower rolling speed. I pumped my 2.5" Nevegals to 35psi about 2 months ago, they have settled nicely into the mid 20's with time but almost ready to pinch-flat now. Grippy tires are great in the wet or damp, but fast tires are soooo fast out here in the dry! It's a tough balance for sure! Certainly makes the race weekend very interesting. I have heard good things about Racing Ralph's and Slant 6 tires in the dry. A semi-slick in the back and a fast front tire with good cornering & braking would be king in the dry if you want to set lap records.

    We're a couple solid days of work away from re-opening the old #2/new #4 trail entrance (just call it "Deer Run" because that's the trail name)... most of the big work is done but the top section needs massaging to generate speed for the downhill berm, and the bottom part needs the big tree ride-over figured out. In the mean time, please use the lower entrance and ride the rest of the trail. Pretty sure we're going to re-visit the new berms in the middle and get them set-up better as well, it works right now but feels awkward at mega speeds.
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    yeah some of the stuff looks pretty awesome that's for sure. i see that green on the right sides needs a weed wacker to it, so if i get bored maybe i'll swing over there and do that tomorrow. i was just walking to someone on the facebook page and sounds like he's going out there sunday to do some work. no idea what, but screw it i know how to use power tools and shovel.
    are you talking the stuff that's after the 354 or whatever it's called portion? it does seem weird to me. or is there a start off position somewhere else to that portion?
    i run 2.2's. i always like it as a good balance to me. i'm not out here to race anyone, just out to burn off the energy and have fun.

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    the bridge over by the lake front on red seven i think it is? well just after it, there's a tree that's partially down. i know this because i almost had a run in with it earlier. i tried to pull it out myself, but it's probably thirty feet tall and two hundred some odd pounds. if i can get out tomorrow, i'll take my hatchet along with me and hack away at it.

    also; where's the trails in paris at?

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    So, we now have the upper section of #4 Deer Run open... this will be a "Black" advanced section before it joins the old red trail, and the lower entrance at the bottom of the hill will be the "Red" intermediate entrance. Still plenty of work left on the top-half so that riders actually get speed down into the berm and into the little step-up lip, BUT it's open now! The tree ride-over is done and bolstered with rocks. Please go pack-in the fresh dirt and report back on how you like it!
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    Well I hit the pines for the first time on Sunday. What a place! I had so much fun there. I'm pretty sure I had a smile the whole time....until I hit a stump and tried to be Superman but that didn't stop me. Great job on grooming. I think it's red #4 with that huge birm.. ..FUN! Heading ASAP when I can.

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    Thinking about heading up to check out the Pines this Friday... Main goal is to go and check out the difficulty level of the trails to get an idea if bringing a few non-rider wifes to the Dairy Capitol race. Is there a map of last years race course or does someone know what trails were used in the past so we can go take a look and then be able to make a decision if the gals will be able to handle the course

    thanks in advance!

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    i don't really hit anywhere else since the pines gets you everything you want. i just need to figure out how to just skip the roots from hell part of the ride. i hate it. cept for the bridge in there. that's fun

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    Quote Originally Posted by VR6ix View Post
    So, we now have the upper section of #4 Deer Run open...

    Still plenty of work left on the top-half so that riders actually get speed down into the berm and into the little step-up lip, BUT it's open now!
    Nice work. With more speed into the entrance it should be killer.

    Another productive stroke from The Berm Donors!

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    Just thought I would report back and give some props to the individuals/club that has built the Pines.... lots of hard work has gone in and it sure does show! We ventured up on Friday and managed to ride for about 2 hrs. I'm a mid pack rider and my girl friend is a little timid on the trails and we both had a blast!

    We started off with "green" which was a nice way to get the legs under us after a 90min car ride there... got back to the car and quickly went back out for the "red/black" lap... I was happy with the trail markings and I ended up doing the black and she stuck to just red... We ended up meeting back up at the car and both agreed that we needed to go out and do it again... thats when I spotted the little pump track over to the other side and went and zipped around there for 20 min! I was like a kid trying to jump things and go over the big rock etc. When it was time for us to go back out for another lap we looked up in the sky and saw what was on its way and quickly decided to get the bikes on the car and get changed and start out journey back home--- it was a perfect decision as we were not even at the Toyota plant and the rain/wind/thunder/lightening had started...

    All in all, great couple of hours at the Pines only complaint is the weather made us leave a little earlier than we wanted too but we will be back and I am going to sign us up for the Dairy race as a mixed tag team too make sure that we get back!

    Great job WCC keep up the good work!

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    aww yea another convert. i know i feel lucky to have something like this only ten mins away.
    is anyone here interested in doing the six in the hood down in port colborne? i debated on doing it myself, but asking one of the guys i somewhat know at liberty bikes, he said it would be better if done as a team since i'm not really chasing for a win here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SFW84 View Post
    aww yea another convert. i know i feel lucky to have something like this only ten mins away.
    is anyone here interested in doing the six in the hood down in port colborne? i debated on doing it myself, but asking one of the guys i somewhat know at liberty bikes, he said it would be better if done as a team since i'm not really chasing for a win here.
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    I just registered for SITH today, solo... Surely wont be me anywhere close to having my feet on the podium! Our club (SHCC) has spent alot of time in the Hood to prep the course and it should be a fun race! Come out and support another club and enjoy all that the Hood has to offer.

    We will be having our first pre-ride of the actual course this Wednesday for club members to get a peak at and give the race committee a chance to see if it will work

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    Thanks mbowman! Glad you folks enjoyed the trails! I was packing my car with camping & biking gear on Friday after work and had to take a break when I saw the black clouds rolling-in over town... had a great time up in Collingwood on the weekend, it's like that storm was perfectly timed to kill the hot humid weather and lay some moisture into the trails to keep things from being too dusty. Riding DH at Blue on Sunday was getting hot & dusty at the end of the day for sure! 3 Stage was perfect and Loree Forest was very wet.

    We had some Short Hills riders out here last season, I wasn't there for the ride but it's nice to see more SW-Ontario riders out to see each others' trails! Rocket MTB club from Wheatley area are good for joining us for our race in the fall and we try to send as many willing participants as possible down to Point Pelee area in September for their 8-hr race too! This is all kind of ironic because St. Catherine's to Wheatley is a proper long drive... is there such thing as "Central SW-Ontario"??? Looking into the Six In The Hood race now...
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    very much debating it. maybe we can get a couple more woodstock people together and run a four man team? i can be that horribly slow middle guy

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    Anyone here going in the dairy capital stampede? I'm going to give er a try.

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    I will be camping in the area on the weekend. Do I need a membership/day pass to ride in The Pines?

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    Quote Originally Posted by REDNECK View Post
    I will be camping in the area on the weekend. Do I need a membership/day pass to ride in The Pines?
    Go ride the trails and try to have fun! If you ride the trail regularly then yes, please, go get a membership. If you're in town to see what's going-on, don't worry just go ride and have fun
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScottyPb View Post
    Anyone here going in the dairy capital stampede? I'm going to give er a try.
    if i can scrape together the pocket change i am considering it

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    Was able to check out the trails this weekend. Great job! I took my wife and kids Sunday and then this morning my 6 year old was asking to go back. He loved the 5a trail.
    I will be back for sure.
    Thanks

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    Thanks for the feedback REDNECK, glad you and the family enjoyed the biking! And extra points for starting the kids young, good job

    Speaking of feedback... everyone feel free to drop us a line about trail conditions, what sections are getting overgrown, new trees down blocking trails, perpetual wet spots in the spring or after a ton of rain, that sort of thing. I hope to get the mower out and hit the grassy trails by the road sometime this week.
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    there's that gate down over on the road. the yellow one on dead chicken. it's not too too bad out there. i was out yesterday and with the exception of that one spot just before the deer run starts, it's all pretty good in conditions. if i get out again tomorrow, i'll make sure to take the hatchet with me and remove that overgrown bush i just mentioned.

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    Dead chicken?

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    Awesome GS conditions today!

    BIG trees lying across The Kids' Trail.

    Re: Deer Run: even without more speed at the entrance, that berm wails!

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    awesome to meet a few of you cats finally. sorry i had to bail so quickly. i had to grown up stuff and deal with a baby that was coming back after a long day with mom.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dugly View Post
    BIG trees lying across The Kids' Trail.
    Tree's gone but there's another tree ready to fall-over, it's already splitting in the middle and hanging over the trail about 10m away...
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    Quote Originally Posted by VR6ix View Post
    Tree's gone
    Good man!

    That second tree looks pretty dangerous. I didn't study it up so don't know how tricky it will be to drop it. I assume that would be OK with Upper Thames since it poses a threat to life and limb.

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    With any luck, Plaid Shirty Guy is currently editing and uploading photos from today's WCC Endurance race.

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    How is The Pines in the winterish weather? My local stuff is sandy and dries out pretty quick in the wet weather, The Pines seems to have alot of sand base soils as well. Does it drain well enough to ride in this wet-frozen-wet weather? It would be nice to mix it up a bit when the local stuff gets boring.
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