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    OCup #3 - Sir Sam's

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    Good bye Mansfield, hello Sir Sam's.
    I loved riding there during Crank the Shield so I'm really looking forward to going back. I feel like I'll ride a thousand preride laps.
    As I mentioned in the other thread I'm contemplating my first SS OCup but will have to see how the new bike feels. It usually takes me a few weeks to feel comfy on it.

    So, who's going to the riders banquet?

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    When are you going up to preride Jeff?
    When under pressure, your level of performance will sink to your level of preparation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkj__ View Post
    When are you going up to preride Jeff?
    Saturday (the day before the race) and camping. Carpool?

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    I hear this course has heavy climbs.

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    Very jacked for this course. I like to climb. I loved riding there last year at CTS, even if it was only with one leg.

    Sounds like lots of people are heading up to make a weekend of it, myself included.

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    Climbs are manageable here as they traverse the hill in a switchback fashion. Then you descend like a fiend in parts of the DH course. I have ridden this twice as part of CTS and was giggling afterwards both times. Great fun to ride and will be challenging maxed out for 1.5 hours plus!
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedumbopinion View Post
    Saturday (the day before the race) and camping. Carpool?
    Just checked the date, and nope, I can't make this happen.
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    Would love to hear of any feedback if any folks have pre-ridden the course this weekend. Hoping to sneak up some time this week as I can't get up there on Saturday ahead of the race as previously planned.
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    One of my buddies rode it and said there are heavy climbs and it's almost all totally single track, very little double track (awesome).

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    Um, yeah, perfect...Thanks. I know the climbing there having ridden it a couple of times. It's little more forgiving than the Mansfield steepness depending on how they've laid it out. And yes, it's not a doubletrack haven by any stretch, which I like the thought of already. If you can climb and are good in the singletrack, it's pure race bliss. At least theoretically!
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    I am still undecided for this race. I cannot quite bring myself to do the drive all the way to Haliburton. We'll see.
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    Yeah this is definitely violating my time on bike versus time driving in car ratio, but I am still thinking of doing this one as I've never ridden at Sir Sams and it looks like fun.

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    Can't wait to pre-ride this course! It's been a long time since I rode up in that area. Sucks having to camp overnight because of our dogs but if the weather is nice, should be a great weekend!
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    Im going to pre-ride tomorrow morning. Commitments on Saturday or else Id ride then and stay over.

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    Please do share feedback following your ride!
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    Rode two laps this morning. Heres my take on the course:

    - The start is still a bit of a climb, but not Manfield esque. The course has a fair amount of climbing in it but your well rewarded for it.

    - Once your done the climb to the top for the first time, the view over the lake is unreal

    - The course has a lot of tight, technical, rocky/rooty single track and switchbacks

    - Im racing the DH Ocups as well, so I found some of the decent's pretty awesome/similar to what Id do on a 8" travel DH bike. Not my 29'r hard tail. Bit of a pucker fest at times.

    - This isn't a course for roadies. The tech stuff is pretty serious and you have to be on your "A" game. I predict quite a few crashes, especially in "The Grind".

    - The pump track wasn't included in the course contrary to previous comments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mtbmeister View Post
    Please do share feedback following your ride!
    Were you not able to get there for a pre-ride this week like you hoped?

    I have a little bit of feedback from a friend. She said the climbs are gradual and not too steep (yay!) and mostly singletrack, just like we found at Crank. Also mentioned was a tricky, steep downhill section. However, she said it probably seemed worse than it really was since her pre-ride was last Saturday in the rain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoke_Eater112 View Post
    A lot of good info about the course
    Thanks, what you posted is much more informative than what I just wrote. Very helpful! I'm looking forward to it and hope things stay dry this weekend!

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    Quote Originally Posted by VVagabond View Post
    Were you not able to get there for a pre-ride this week like you hoped?

    I have a little bit of feedback from a friend. She said the climbs are gradual and not too steep (yay!) and mostly singletrack, just like we found at Crank. Also mentioned was a tricky, steep downhill section. However, she said it probably seemed worse than it really was since her pre-ride was last Saturday in the rain.
    Thanks for sharing...I couldn't swing and justify the drive quite honestly. I have a family function on Saturday afternoon, following which I will be heading up for a 5-6pm arrival at a cottage 15 mins away. If I am lucky, I will get at least a lap in to get a feel for the course. Having ridden there, I have an idea of what to expect.

    And having ridden twice again on the mtb this week, I put the old front brake back on hoping that I get my descending mojo back. The new one still isn't cutting it. I don't want to be missing it here if the downhills are anything like CTS at points. It's also supposed to rain a lot today and tomorrow, so it's likely to remain a little slick in spots for the race. Looking forward to it though.
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    Good luck to all of you who are racing this weekend. I was undecided about this race, but the decision has been made for me. I have to work part of the weekend to prepare for a user conference we are hosting next week in Blue Mountain. At least I will be able to get in a couple of long road rides each morning.
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    What say you fellows members of eastern canada?

    Funnest course I have done at an OCUP. Loved the climbing, loved the descending, loved the technical bits. Only thing I didn't really like was the off camber slippery roots, had a few oh $hit moments, but kept 'er upright.

    Had a simple plan. 1) Don't blow up, cause I knew the climbing could do that and would do that to many people by the 3/4th lap. 2) Focus on riding the more technical stuff super clean, not necessarily fast. That meant backing off coming into it to make sure I was focused and not redlined. Worked like a charm and I'm sure I was faster over all.

    4th lap was my second fastest. That made me happy.

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    Had a blast. My fav so far. Had a very professional feel to the course. I was happy to say I felt much better this race then woodnewton(first 3 lap race)

    I hoped to finish a bit better but overall was happy with how I felt.
    Now to find the 15+min from me to first place!!

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    Thats awesome man, Congrats!

    I ran way too many psi in both my front/rear tires and my bike had me feeling like I was bambi on ice in the woods. I crashed hard while in second on the first lap coming out of the woods for the first time. Tweaked the bars bad and had to red green it. After that, my RD jammed twice and I managed to yard sale about 5-6 other times over the remaining two laps. Fitness wise, I felt better then the first race which went awesome. I just couldn't stop hitting the dirt today.

    I still had fun an managed a 6th in my class. Goal is to re-group and come out swinging at Hardwood. Today was a learning experience. A fun one at that

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    OCup #3 - Sir Sam's

    Today was my first OCup race (ever), and this year is my first season racing. I've been sidelined with an injury for the past 5 weeks, so I missed #1 and #2 this year, not to mention not having enough saddle time by a long shot. I have to say today was an eye opener, especially after some citizen races last year (an 8 hour and the STC). I simply didn't have it in me today, and only completed two laps. But, the injury wasn't aggravated any further, so I guess that's something.

    Question related to the results though...I finished my second lap but was cut off from starting my third. I assumed I was a DNF, but I've got a placing and points. How's that work?


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    Super fun race, felt like a mini world cup course with the snaking climb followed by lots of single track downhill / tech.

    Got first in my class and had a blast doing it! Except on the first lap when I puked at the top of the climb after pulling a rookie mistake of trying a brand new gel right before the race started

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    Quote Originally Posted by CptSydor View Post
    4th lap was my second fastest. That made me happy.
    Same here, nearly blew up on lap one, wanted to quit on lap two, recovered on lap three, got my grove on lap 4. Fun race.

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    Toughest O-Cup course by far......

    This race was an eye opener for me....
    Went out too strong, so much so that the end of the first lap I thought that is it,I can't do 2 more laps, I spent the 2nd lap putting myself back together but I was moving like a damaged Robo Cop on the singletrack.
    By the 3rd lap I had no more reason to push,I had no chance to catch the rider ahead of me and I didn't see no one closing on me from behind.
    I decided to try riding all the tech sections,what I did with a 98% success rate, I ate it only once on that really slippery rooty switchback section.
    I need to work on my technical riding skills,I got destroyed on the single track this time.

    All in all it was an awesome day in the saddle, on a very unique course!!!
    Great job Superfly Guys!!!!

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    I had so much fun this weekend. What a great time up at Sir Sams. Awesome course once again and I won't be surprised when I see it on the schedule next year.

    My first singlespeed OCup and I got my ass kicked. I wish I had a good excuse but the fact is everyone in that category is super strong. I ride SS on and off for fun and I've done a few solos but to ride at that pace was very difficult. Kudos to everyone who's racing in that category.

    Now the standings say second last but by comparison of other categories I don't really think my time was too far back of what it would have been on a geared bike.

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    I am really loving the direction superfly is taking the ocup series. The added tech is a welcome change!

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    Toughest OCUP course ever. That course was relentless! The fatigue from the climbing combined with the technical singletrack allowed for little time to recover. Wish I had maybe 1 or 2 other places where I could actually reach for a bottle, but had a blast! Liking the more technical courses!

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    Excellent course. Not as tough as Elliot Lake or Calabogie from year's past but just as good really. Haliburton's a nice area - it was so nice to steer clear of the GTA! Loved being able to camp onsite with the amenities of the ski lodge close at hand. It felt like a good 'ol mountain bike race. Well done Sean!

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    Quote Originally Posted by drussell View Post

    Question related to the results though...I finished my second lap but was cut off from starting my third. I assumed I was a DNF, but I've got a placing and points. How's that work?


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    In CX and XC MTB if "they" pull you off the course you still get a placing, points etc. You just get placed in order behind anyone who did complete a third lap.

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    Loved It!

    Yep, agree with the comments posted, that was an incredibly fun course and really enjoyed the venue. Looking down from the top of the hill overlooking the countryside and the lake was breathtaking.

    The banquet was a really nice addition to the event, it was great to see so many fellow racers take advantage of this. Now if only they were a tad quicker serving the meal-- we had decided to wait until the line passed but after waiting 50 minutes finally jumped into the line. I think we were served shortly after 7pm, or a 60 minute wait. But that didn't damper my enjoyment of the weekend!

    Sean has definitely raised the bar this year in terms of course difficulty and it seems to have been very well received-- there is a bit of a buzz developing. The only downside I see is that it makes O-cups less accessible to beginners and some in the Sport category-- which I think is the right decision actually. Sean has commented that part of the intention of making the courses more difficult is to help developing racers get better and prepare them for competition at higher levels (e.g. Canada Cup, World Cup.) And while the course was more difficult than some, it was definitely doable. And one always has the option to hop off your bike and hike it.

    It's also an opportunity for weekly race series (E.g. Kelso, Albion, Hardwood etc.) to help racers develop both the fitness and the skills necessary to compete at an O-cup like Sir Sam's.

    Looking forward to Sudbury next!

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    OCup #3 - Sir Sam's

    Thanks swabag. Mighty generous of them, though I'd still consider it a DNF. I've got work to do!


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    Wouldn't have wanted to spend my weekend any other way! Loved being able to camp right at the venue. The course was super sweet and the weather on race day was perfect. My son said it was his favorite course yet and really enjoyed the atmosphere around the venue on Saturday night. He couldn't stop laughing as he listened to some of the people who had had a bit much to drink that night. His exact words were "this is why I love mountain bike racing. Everyone is so chill and friendly."
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    Quote Originally Posted by drussell View Post
    Thanks swabag. Mighty generous of them, though I'd still consider it a DNF. I've got work to do!
    It's not generosity; it's just the way the rules work. That's why it's "important" to keep riding if you're able. There may be points at stake!
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