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    OCA Membership

    I would like to do some races this year but I am a bit confused about the difference between the Citizen and UCI OCA memberships. With a Citizen license, can I choose what races I can enter or is it only certain races that allow citizen licenses? I don't really care about points, I just want to do the races.

    The difference in price between the UCI ($140/$135) and Citizen ($40) license is $100.00 which is pretty significant. I have seen some races where you can purchase a Citizen license for $10.00 per race but if I do more than 4, the $40 license is the better deal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danny_mcgee
    I would like to do some races this year but I am a bit confused about the difference between the Citizen and UCI OCA memberships. With a Citizen license, can I choose what races I can enter or is it only certain races that allow citizen licenses? I don't really care about points, I just want to do the races.

    The difference in price between the UCI ($140/$135) and Citizen ($40) license is $100.00 which is pretty significant. I have seen some races where you can purchase a Citizen license for $10.00 per race but if I do more than 4, the $40 license is the better deal.
    The citizen license is not sufficient for o-cup races(with the exception of the single speed open, and try an o-cup categories, but it is ideal for 24h races and weekly series races.

    There is a limit to how many 1-day licenses you are supposed to buy in a year (3), but i don't see how they can enforce that. I inquired about it last year, and they said that the worst they could do is disqualify me.

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    [SIZE="1"]edit: I basically said the same thing as rkj, but here's my post anyway[/SIZE]

    To race and gain points in mtb or road O-Cups you need a UCI license. You can do a couple (mtb) O-Cups on a Citizen's permit (in the "Try an O-Cup" category) but cannot gain upgrade points. A citizen's permit is sufficient for many local events and things like 24h races, etc. It will also allow you to race Cyclocross in the fall if you're so inclined.

    I don't plan to do more than a couple O-Cups this year, and don't care about upgrading so I went for a Citizen's Permit. Next year I will re-assess my situation and possibly get a UCI license, but for my race plans this year it was not necessary.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmoote
    [SIZE="1"]edit: I basically said the same thing as rkj, but here's my post anyway[/SIZE]

    To race and gain points in mtb or road O-Cups you need a UCI license. You can do a couple (mtb) O-Cups on a Citizen's permit (in the "Try an O-Cup" category) but cannot gain upgrade points. A citizen's permit is sufficient for many local events and things like 24h races, etc. It will also allow you to race Cyclocross in the fall if you're so inclined.

    I don't plan to do more than a couple O-Cups this year, and don't care about upgrading so I went for a Citizen's Permit. Next year I will re-assess my situation and possibly get a UCI license, but for my race plans this year it was not necessary.
    For the last two years, i have done 3 o-cups each year, and only gone with the one day licenses, which was the more affordable option. This year, i'd like to do 4 or 5, so i will consider a uci license.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jmoote
    [SIZE="1"]edit: I basically said the same thing as rkj, but here's my post anyway[/SIZE]

    To race and gain points in mtb or road O-Cups you need a UCI license. You can do a couple (mtb) O-Cups on a Citizen's permit (in the "Try an O-Cup" category) but cannot gain upgrade points. A citizen's permit is sufficient for many local events and things like 24h races, etc. It will also allow you to race Cyclocross in the fall if you're so inclined.

    I don't plan to do more than a couple O-Cups this year, and don't care about upgrading so I went for a Citizen's Permit. Next year I will re-assess my situation and possibly get a UCI license, but for my race plans this year it was not necessary.

    Thanks for the info rjk and jmoote! I think I will go with the Citizens permit and just pay the extra at O'cup races.

    I'm glad you mentioned Cyclocross because I am currently building a Cross bike and plan on racing it in the fall. I didn't even think about a license for those races.

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    Just so you know, Citizen Permit's are not considered valid race licenses in the US. A UCI License, however, is fully valid down there and means you won't have to pay the sometimes hefty one-day fees at those races.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ddakin
    Just so you know, Citizen Permit's are not considered valid race licenses in the US. A UCI License, however, is fully valid down there and means you won't have to pay the sometimes hefty one-day fees at those races.
    Good point, but they're not valid race licenses here either. Aren't the mtb events over in NY mostly grassroots/citizen type events where a UCI license won't get you past any of the fees anyway?

    If you're racing* anywhere you need a UCI license (* I say racing meaning points races, not citizen's events). If all you're doing is some grassroots mtb events and you think you want to try an O-Cup or two, the citizen's permit is the correct choice.

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