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    O-Cup #1: Woodnewton

    Who's getting stoked for this?!

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    Quote Originally Posted by broadwayline View Post
    Who's getting stoked for this?!
    I was doing just fine. And then I saw the course map: http://www.superflyracing.com/wp-con...on-o-cup-1.pdf.

    ...and, here it comes, wait for it, like clockwork....pre-race jitters!!!!!!

    What if, what if, what if, what if...

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    Have never raced Woodnewton before. I'll be riding it for the first time on Friday afternoon, if I can get away from the office in time...

    Also, I will be racing a bike with gears for the first time in 5 years (although I plan on essentially riding it like a SS)

    Does anyone who has raced here before have any pearls of wisdom for me?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unglued View Post
    Does anyone who has raced here before have any pearls of wisdom for me?
    Pray for dry weather.
    Please enjoy seeing this terrible collection of me - something wonderful is about to happy.

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    Excited to race mountain bikes! Going up Saturday to pre-ride.

    Unglued: It's a fun course, but nothing 'extreme' in terms of elevation or technical. The climbs are punchy, they can be on the steeper side, but not long (30 m or less). You tend to power up them more than pace yourself up them.

    Technically there isn't much to worry about. Towards then end there is some fast singletrack (notably some swoops through a ravine), then the optional rock garden right at the end.

    Overall it's very similar to Mansfield or Albion (climbs slightly bigger, but not like the opener at Mansfield).

    As GM eluded to, it can be 'sticky' if it's raining. The trails are not worked in like other major venues, so they respond differently to rain (mainly they hold it more rather then shed it).

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    I'm not racing this season, but I'll head up to ride the course on Saturday, because it's so much fun!

    The swoopy ravine is super fast and the final twisty descent is a lot of fun. There is one section that can be really sticky with rain, but the rest of the course drains fairly well.

    There are no technical sections of note, but if you ride fast enough this course is terrific.

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    Thanks Cpt and GM - sounds like my kind of course....
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    Unless the weather gets ugly this week the course should be in great shape. A friend of mine rode it last weekend and said it was fairly dry. I rode some trails adjacent to it last night and they were perfect, just enough moisture in the dirt to enhance traction.
    I plan on pre-riding either Friday evening or Saturday, but unfortunately have a family commitment on Sunday that will prevent me from racing
    Good luck to all!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Face Visor View Post
    Unless the weather gets ugly this week the course should be in great shape. A friend of mine rode it last weekend and said it was fairly dry. I rode some trails adjacent to it last night and they were perfect, just enough moisture in the dirt to enhance traction.
    I plan on pre-riding either Friday evening or Saturday, but unfortunately have a family commitment on Sunday that will prevent me from racing
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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster View Post
    Pray for dry weather.
    Woodnewton isn't the same without all the mud - MUDnewton! I loved it muddy!

    Good luck to all racing. I'll be in Tennessee for a 100 miler, ayyyeeee!

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    Does anyone know where the singlespeeders are going to be placed on the 11:45 start?

    I've never raced 'Newton but I do know I'm going to get my chubby out of shape ass kicked.

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    Both times I raced at Woodnewton it was very muddy and rainy, so it would be nice to have a dry course. Right now the weather looks great for Sunday.

    I will also pre-ride on Saturday.
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    Pre-rode tonight. The course is bone-dry. It is fast and flowy with a lot of short climbs and one real grinder in the middle. There's a big rock in the middle of the trail about 3km in which is a bit of a momentum-killer, but taking the ride-around is way too slow. The rock garden in the final km is also pretty spooky, but all in all it's a great course which will reward smoothness and fast acceleration out of the corners.

    And on an unrelated note, I appear to have caught Smarty's pre-race jitters.
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    Did couple of laps on the course yesterday too; man I'm rusty!!!!
    This was my first time on dirt this year and it showed......
    The course is great,love the roller coaster section, all the little "rock" features,although I looked like I was moving in slow motion in the long one.

    Climbs are punchy and will be a lot of pain by the 3rd lap, will be a real test as always.
    Couldn't really find sections to rest and recover, but that is just my low level of fitness.....

    Plus one with pre-race jitters.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unglued View Post
    Pre-rode tonight. The course is bone-dry. It is fast and flowy with a lot of short climbs and one real grinder in the middle. There's a big rock in the middle of the trail about 3km in which is a bit of a momentum-killer, but taking the ride-around is way too slow. The rock garden in the final km is also pretty spooky, but all in all it's a great course which will reward smoothness and fast acceleration out of the corners.

    And on an unrelated note, I appear to have caught Smarty's pre-race jitters.
    So how does the new bike feel?
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    Quote Originally Posted by serious View Post
    So how does the new bike feel?
    Faster than me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by thedumbopinion View Post
    Does anyone know where the singlespeeders are going to be placed on the 11:45 start?
    I heard a rumor you guys were going first.

    Raining in Uxbridge right now apparently. Gah!

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    Just got back from Woodnewton. It was a bit slick after the rain, but compared to the times I raced there, it was like night and day. I only did a couple of laps, but enjoyed every moment. The course is fast, with tons of turns. It may not be very technical, but at speed it will certainly be challenging.

    And the weather tomorrow will be freaking awesome!
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    Just got back. Course was primo. No effects from the rain. Should be crazy awesome.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unglued View Post
    Faster than me...

    Is that a good or bad thing?

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    Rode the 1:30 course a few times today, starting at noon. Course was tacky, fast and smooth. I think the Janelle's Revenge downhill is one of the best sections on the circuit - Not only is it a blast but I think it's really the only part of the course to get any serious recovery time. This course is full throttle pretty much the whole way through

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    What an awesome course, that is actually a fun ride opposed to some of last years courses that were roadie only.

    Love all the real singletrack and the heavy downhill switchbacks in the 2nd half - going to be a fun race!

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    Unglued...have punctured or not have punctured? That is the question.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduramil View Post
    Unglued...have punctured or not have punctured? That is the question.
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    Awesome race boys with good atmosphere at the event, ended up getting first in my class - I can't believe the guy who broke his nose in pre-ride yesterday rode today!

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    He is one of my coaches. Tough guy. When I left yesterday he was fine. Then saw him this morning snd was like what the hell happened.

    Looked to be a couple good tumbles on the rock garden and that weirdly placed rock near the feed zone.

    Fun race, first try at sport for me. Glad I was able to finish.

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    Quote Originally Posted by machine4321 View Post
    He is one of my coaches. Tough guy. When I left yesterday he was fine. Then saw him this morning snd was like what the hell happened.

    Looked to be a couple good tumbles on the rock garden and that weirdly placed rock near the feed zone.

    Fun race, first try at sport for me. Glad I was able to finish.
    Damn that is badass!

    Apparently my buddy was standing off to the side the trail with his girlfriend scoping the 2 foot rock that you could go over so she could see the best line and said 'ok watch this guy' boom, face into ground - I guess that was a bad example for her ha

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    Had a great race, surprisingly, after 2 hard rides in the same day on Sat. Finished 4th in singlespeed. I think I had mentally finished by the time I hit the last rock garden. The rock garden I had breezed through for the first 2 laps, unexpectedly got the best of me. I went over the bars and face planted big time. I don't know how I didn't break my nose (thank you helmet!). Lots of scrapes and I feel like I got beaten with a baseball bat, but got back on the bike quickly and finished up. I am just hoping someone managed to snap a photo of it.

    That course was a ton of fun!

    Going to miss the next one (riding in Costa Rica!) and then back for June at Sir Sams.

    @broadwayline: I think I figured out who you were today (saw your response on reddit on your CX bike thread). Have we met before??

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    Quote Originally Posted by nspace View Post
    I went over the bars and face planted big time...I am just hoping someone managed to snap a photo of it.
    Crashyface:

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/smarty-1/8691279706/" title="Woodnewton 2013 by smarty-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7048/8691279706_2ef2fe471d.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Woodnewton 2013"></a>

    You not crashing:

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/smarty-1/8690197835/" title="Woodnewton 2013 by smarty-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7055/8690197835_b8b987d329.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Woodnewton 2013"></a>

    Dermont almost crashing (not really that it slowed him down much today):

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/smarty-1/8691334288/" title="Woodnewton 2013 by smarty-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8524/8691334288_0b837fd459.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Woodnewton 2013"></a>

    What I had for lunch:

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/smarty-1/8690247491/" title="Woodnewton 2013 by smarty-1, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7053/8690247491_e071fef4b7.jpg" width="500" height="333" alt="Woodnewton 2013"></a>

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    I also had a good race, finished 7th in single speed. What freaked me out is to see how close behind the ladies were in single speed. Wow!
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    Quote Originally Posted by osokolo View Post
    thank you
    ...and an unknown rider showing everyone how it's done (and showing how crabon wheelz are so excellent that they can even be school-boyed off every rock in the rock garden):

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/95312239@N02/8690030375/" title="DPP_0088 by pdub111, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7053/8690030375_4a95b647f1.jpg" width="333" height="500" alt="DPP_0088"></a>

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    Quote Originally Posted by serious View Post
    I also had a good race, finished 7th in single speed. What freaked me out is to see how close behind the ladies were in single speed. Wow!
    Good to have you back, Serious....
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    Quote Originally Posted by smarty View Post
    ...and an unknown rider showing everyone how it's done (and showing how crabon wheelz are so excellent that they can even be school-boyed off every rock in the rock garden):

    <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/95312239@N02/8690030375/" title="DPP_0088 by pdub111, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7053/8690030375_4a95b647f1.jpg" width="333" height="500" alt="DPP_0088"></a>
    lol smarty... when i saw the picture i went running into my man cave and frantically checking the wheel... (just kidding)... i abused them in Hilton Falls last winter, including Bent Rim... carbon rulz. if only the rider is as good as the wheels...

    congrats on awesome race... and... welcome back in style...
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    Thanks guys, I am happy to be racing again. Mostly happy to do it in the company of such great bunch of friends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nspace View Post
    Had a great race, surprisingly, after 2 hard rides in the same day on Sat. Finished 4th in singlespeed. I think I had mentally finished by the time I hit the last rock garden. The rock garden I had breezed through for the first 2 laps, unexpectedly got the best of me. I went over the bars and face planted big time. I don't know how I didn't break my nose (thank you helmet!). Lots of scrapes and I feel like I got beaten with a baseball bat, but got back on the bike quickly and finished up. I am just hoping someone managed to snap a photo of it.
    I was standing right at the bottom of the rock garden when you went down, face first with your legs in the air like a scorpion tail. It looked awful but you bounced back up as fast as you went down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedumbopinion View Post
    I was standing right at the bottom of the rock garden when you went down, face first with your legs in the air like a scorpion tail. It looked awful but you bounced back up as fast as you went down.
    LOL! I am just glad somebody saw it! I thought I got back up rather quickly, adrenaline kicks in pretty quick. *fingers crossed for a photo*

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    Random thoughts about the OCUP

    - Damn, I haven't built up MTB callouses yet. While certainly not the most noticeable pain I am experiencing today, it is adding to the overall effect.

    - Always test out a set of wheels before bringing them to a race. Luckily I brought two sets and figured this out in the pre-ride.

    - I truly suck compared to others trying to ride tight, twisty singletrack redlined. There were two sections I felt embarrassed to be seen on.

    - XC races are a total other fitness. One I don't have. Yet. I hope.

    - My biggest success was having relatively consistent lap times (beyond the first lap).

    - Warming up on a trainer is 100000000000x times better.

    - Most of my points make me seem like a total roadie. What eva.


    Great to see everyone out there. Twas a fun day. Can't wait until Mansfield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CptSydor View Post
    - Most of my points make me seem like a total roadie. What eva.
    lol.
    Please enjoy seeing this terrible collection of me - something wonderful is about to happy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedumbopinion View Post
    I was standing right at the bottom of the rock garden when you went down, face first with your legs in the air like a scorpion tail. It looked awful but you bounced back up as fast as you went down.
    This is why I avoided the rock garden on every lap. During the pre-ride I decided that I am about equally fast riding around it, but with less risk. At 51 years old, I want to avoid injury more than anything else.
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    This is why I avoided the rock garden on every lap. During the pre-ride I decided that I am about equally fast riding around it, but with less risk. At 51 years old, I want to avoid injury more than anything else.
    Pain is temporary.

    Embarrassment is forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by serious View Post
    This is why I avoided the rock garden on every lap. During the pre-ride I decided that I am about equally fast riding around it, but with less risk. At 51 years old, I want to avoid injury more than anything else.
    Rock garden line was worth at least 10+ seconds over the re-route, I passed a few people who took the re-route who were 15 feet ahead, and I would come out ahead of them after the gardens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by broadwayline View Post
    Rock garden line was worth at least 10+ seconds over the re-route, I passed a few people who took the re-route who were 15 feet ahead, and I would come out ahead of them after the gardens.

    I watched the 10:00 am race go through twice and the 11:45 race once.

    It really depended on how fast you went through the rock garden. If you had a good line and let your bike run through it, faster than the re-route.

    If you slowed into the rock garden, or 'maneuvered' through it, it was about the same. I actually watched two guys who were within 1ft of each other go both ways. The guy going through the rock garden was 'average', meaning he scrubbed speed into it and tried to pick a line. Both guys almost hit each other on the way out. So unless you just let it rip through there (which was only about the top 25% of people), it was no faster.

    And 15 feet on an MTB course is no where near 10 seconds, especially on a downhill. Less than 2, probably closer to 1.

    Edit: 15 km/h is 12.5 ft/s if my calculations are correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by broadwayline View Post
    Rock garden line was worth at least 10+ seconds over the re-route, I passed a few people who took the re-route who were 15 feet ahead, and I would come out ahead of them after the gardens.
    10's a little much but yeah, during the preride it was pretty close but on race day the bottom corner became washed out and you couldn't rail the exit so it added a second or two. I did see one person pass by taking the easy route. They guy in the rock garden was heavy on the brakes.

    Also, there is one member of this forum who was in front of me going into the rock garden and broke hard. When I tried to pass he completely came across my line and forced me off the bike. damn you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CptSydor View Post
    I watched the 10:00 am race go through twice and the 11:45 race once.

    It really depended on how fast you went through the rock garden. If you had a good line and let your bike run through it, faster than the re-route.

    If you slowed into the rock garden, or 'maneuvered' through it, it was about the same. I actually watched two guys who were within 1ft of each other go both ways. The guy going through the rock garden was 'average', meaning he scrubbed speed into it and tried to pick a line. Both guys almost hit each other on the way out. So unless you just let it rip through there (which was only about the top 25% of people), it was no faster.

    And 15 feet on an MTB course is no where near 10 seconds, especially on a downhill. Less than 2, probably closer to 1.
    Not sure about other people, but I hit the rock garden full out with no brakes and just floated over it and gaped the first few rocks, then braked after the garden and trail braked through the corner so it's possible other peoples results may vary

    There were lots of roadies out on that course who were slow through the technical / single track so it wouldn't surprise me if most people were the same pace through it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by broadwayline View Post
    Not sure about other people, but I hit the rock garden full out with no brakes and just rocked over it so it's possible other peoples results may vary

    There were lots of roadies out on that course who were slow through the technical / single track so it wouldn't surprise me if most people were the same pace through it.
    Not saying you didn't. People rocked that section and certainly gained time. Some people were embarrassingly slow and would have gained 10 seconds going around as well. Based on what I saw, I think you could only gain a couple seconds (which would be like trailing someone by 15 ft, then coming out in front of them at ~ 15 km/h).

    If you look at your watch, or count out 10 seconds. That's a huge amount of time in a race.

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    Maybe 5sec for me then, it's ok though - the roadies will get their chance to make a comeback at Mansfield - that is always a course for the big engines!

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    Quote Originally Posted by osokolo View Post
    Pain is temporary.

    Embarrassment is forever.

    Yes, but I can race with embarrasement, no problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by broadwayline View Post
    Maybe 5sec for me then, it's ok though - the roadies will get their chance to make a comeback at Mansfield - that is always a course for the big engines!
    No way you would gain 5 seconds. Think about it, how on earth do you lose 5 seconds on those 2 quick turns into the bypass?
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