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  • Keep on truckin'!

    36 64.29%
  • Stop and wait for the owner to catch up.

    9 16.07%
  • Loop back around to the owner.

    6 10.71%
  • Apologize to the dog, the owner and the crazy van lady from the last poll.

    1 1.79%
  • HTFU

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  1. #1
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    Miss Manners Poll: Part Two

    So I was out riding in the woods at lunch today and I came up behind a young woman walking her dog (unleashed in an on-leash only area, not that I care that much). I was climbing (slowly, trust me) and rang my bell to let her know I was coming. She turned and moved aside, calling her dog over.

    Of course, the happy, tail-wagging dog ran straight for me despite the calling. I chose to keep riding with the dog continuing to follow me much to the owner's continued (and more insistent) calling.

    About a kilometer later, the dog finally gave up and I was free to continue my ride.

    Now, I'm not a dog person (yay, cats! ) so here's the question: was I being rude?

    (Don't forget to click on the poll! I was sure to include the appropriate apology and cupcake options this time around just to be safe. )
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    Can I vote HTF and Keep on Truckin.

    Someone else's dog ain't your problem.

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    Her dog, her problem... unless she's a cutie!
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    I usually apply a 2-stage process. First, "loop back to owner" (my vote in the poll) to return the dog to them, but if they don't manage the situation somehow and their dog follows me again when I ride away the second time, then it's all on them. I like dogs, and don't want them to suffer due to the stupidity of their owner.

    Dogs have come with me for round 2 before, they eventually give up but sometimes it's a long way. I don't want anyone to lose their dog, but if they don't take some action then they deserve to wander around in a forest for a couple of hours looking for their lost pet, not to mention that the dog perhaps could do better finding a different owner to go home with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PissedOffCil View Post
    Her dog, her problem... unless she's a cutie!
    That's pretty much my take on it. If she's cute I'll stop, wait for her and use it as an opportunity to chat with her. Otherwise I use it as an opportunity for sprint workouts and interval training, I hammer it full speed and see how long it takes to drop the dog.

    Yeah, I know, I'm a horrible person. Thanks for asking.

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    Her dog, her problem. I take my dog off leash to our fav riding spot. He's a very friendly black lab. However, I do have him on an electronic leash, as I do realise that he IS a dog and not everyone appreciates him like I do. If I see someone on the trail, I yell "he's friendly" and if he doesn't keep up I beep him and he knows that the next step is I shock him. Works for us.

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    Nope, I dont think you were being rude.

    I would have looped back and told her to put the dog on the leash. If she cant control it, the dog is a danger to everyone. Just because it didn't attack you today, doesn't mean it wont turn on someone tomorrow or run out into the street.

    I have no time for people who dont control their animals...particularly cat owners
    It's only pain......

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    Quote Originally Posted by SSteve F View Post
    I have no time for people who dont control their animals...particularly cat owners
    We've actually been walking our cat on a leash since he was a kitten...

    [waits for laughter to die down] [/waits for laughter to die down]

    He grew up in on busy streets all around Southern Ontario so it seemed like the safest option. Our neighbours think it's a riot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SSteve F View Post
    I have no time for people who dont control their animals...particularly cat owners


    Aside from the 2 dogs, we usually have 1 or more cats (and sometimes other misc. pets) around our house also. As many cat owners would probably understand, it's difficult enough to avoid being controlled by your cat, much less to actually exert any control over them.

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    I guess if she wasn't someone you wanted to talk with you could always talk to the dog and tell it "no", if it keeps following then stop and wait for the owner to collect it.

    I agree somewhat with "not my dog.. not my problem".. however.. it is my community and I'd help a girl with a flat, or directions. I'd report a poacher or vandal to the authorities.. same as I'd report a bear or cougar sighting. If a child started to follow me into the woods I'd def stop and wait for the owners to catch up... so why not a fur-kid?

    When I'm riding with my dog we always stop for the off-leashers to collect themselves.. and if we find a dog at large .. once again we call the authorities so it can get home... it's what I hope happens if my dog ever goes AWOL.

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    ...out riding in the woods at lunch today
    Nice - hmmm last day of summer, sunny out there - okay, I am going riding.

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    I'm a dog person, so I would loop back. Not for the owner. For the dog.
    Strava made me do it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by shirk View Post
    ...I vote HTF...
    I operate under the assumption that you will go for the HTFU option in any poll where it's provided, regardless of the topic or question.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Circlip View Post
    I operate under the assumption that you will go for the HTFU option in any poll where it's provided, regardless of the topic or question.
    Honestly yes. I think society is getting soft, expecting others to take care of them and their things.

    In my opinion not enough people are learning the hard knocks of life and dealing with it. Way to much hand holding going on. Especially in the 30 and under crowd.

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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster View Post
    We've actually been walking our cat on a leash since he was a kitten...

    [waits for laughter to die down] [/waits for laughter to die down]

    He grew up in on busy streets all around Southern Ontario so it seemed like the safest option. Our neighbours think it's a riot.
    This thread needs more pictures.

    I voted keep truckin.

    The dog is not your responsibility. It's not rude to keep going.

    Helping to ensure the dog does not get too far from its owner is however a kind / friendly thing to do.

    JMHO, YMMV, etc.
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    garage_monster: Now, I'm not a dog person (yay, cats! )

    I like you and Mrs Monster even more now. As for a dog chasing me like that, I would probably keep on riding, but eventually I might have to loop back out of pity for the dog.
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    Quote Originally Posted by serious View Post
    garage_monster: Now, I'm not a dog person (yay, cats! )

    I like you and Mrs Monster even more now. As for a dog chasing me like that, I would probably keep on riding, but eventually I might have to loop back out of pity for the dog.
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    I'm with Unglued, Id loop back for the dog.

    Luckily Starbuck (my dog not the poster on here) is pretty slow and wouldn't get too far in a similar situation, i don't need to worry about her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swabag View Post
    Luckily Starbuck (my dog not the poster on here)
    Thanks for the clarification. I was wondering how your dog had accumulated well over 100 posts without the benefit of opposable thumbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by swabag View Post
    I'm with Unglued, Id loop back for the dog.

    Luckily Starbuck (my dog not the poster on here) is pretty slow and wouldn't get too far in a similar situation, i don't need to worry about her.
    Slow compared to you or slow compared to other riders or slow compared to other dogs.

    There is some significant distinction there. She may as well be faster than Usain Bolt but slower than you. Probably faster than Circlip with sore toe.


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    Quote Originally Posted by osokolo View Post
    Slow compared to you or slow compared to other riders or slow compared to other dogs.
    all of the above,

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    There must be some mistake.

    "Attempt to outrun" isn't in the poll.
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    Dogs are great and i'll enjoy your dogs company for the next ten kilometers if it wants... lst time i had a dog follow me for that long i finally stopped and called the number on the collar. This was the 71st time somebody had called the dog in.

    Really.

    So, in the mean time I don't care if your dog is polite and wants to tag along(so long as it doesn't get under my wheel and cause a crash)

    I used to stop, wait, double back, but it took too much time out of my ride to return people's dogs. I wear a bear bell now and that seems to help people put the leash back on the dog in time - even though it is a bit humiliating to go around wearing a bell. However that is the state of our world.

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    The only time that I'm out riding, and getting somewhere in a specific time matters is a race. Everything else is free form.

    If a dog follows me, I stop immediately and wait for the owner to get the dog under control or have the dog loose interest (at times this requires multiple attempts).*

    It really comes back to a general philosophy of trying to take less than I give. Then again, I was a long time owner of a Jack Russell Terrier and as well behaved as that dog was, a couple good deeds by strangers kept him around longer than he probably should have been.

    * Unless the dog is aggressive. Then a boot to the head suffices.

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    Let the mutt follow you home. Them dogs is good eatin'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettocruiser View Post
    There must be some mistake.

    "Attempt to outrun" isn't in the poll.
    This is a great option if your course is a straight line away from them

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    I have no problem with dogs and owned one for 15 years. I understand that they love to run around and chase each other or chase you and your bike. They love to do this. I have no problem with this as long as the dog is friendly. I stop and wait for the owner to get the dog. It is always on double track and no skin off my back. It's not like a nice flowing line is ruined. Back to the dog. If your dog is aggressive, then it should not be off leash in the first place. I always slow down around people and dogs anyway; they both can prove quite unpredictable, even when you warn them you are coming. Dogs on a leash are not much safer. Often they run across the path block the whole thing with the leash. Same thing on paved trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by secret agent View Post
    I have no problem with dogs and owned one for 15 years. I understand that they love to run around and chase each other or chase you and your bike. They love to do this. I have no problem with this as long as the dog is friendly. I stop and wait for the owner to get the dog. It is always on double track and no skin off my back. It's not like a nice flowing line is ruined. Back to the dog. If your dog is aggressive, then it should not be off leash in the first place. I always slow down around people and dogs anyway; they both can prove quite unpredictable, even when you warn them you are coming. Dogs on a leash are not much safer. Often they run across the path block the whole thing with the leash. Same thing on paved trails.
    I have no less than twice nearly been clotheslined by one of those retractable extend-o-leashes when the dog goes to the opposite side of the path of the owner. They are the worst.

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    I have to admit, I would be reluctant to stop. I just don't trust that dogs are as harmless as their owners always assure me they are. My favourite example was on signed mountain bike specific trails, a dog got very aggressive. The dog's owner kept assuring me that he was a very nice dog, but just afraid of mountain bikes. Ummm....

    Around here, it's not uncommon for unleashed dogs to take off after deer and get lost. In areas clearly signed as "leash required". Sigh. Those retractable leashes are hazardous though!

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    I can speak from experience that the ripstop polyester or nylon material Fox used in their 2009 Ranger shorts is dog bite resistant against 140ish pound black labs. I was walking funny for a week.

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    osokolo: Sir, you have no business liking Mrs Monster.

    Don't worry osokolo, I like you too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thatshowiroll View Post
    Let the mutt follow you home. Them dogs is good eatin'.
    any recipes in mind?

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    A dog should be working in the middle of the day chasing rodents protecting the young animals on the farm. Cats should be in a barn catching rats.
    I guess I look at animals different them most
    I would stop let the owner see the look on my face picture a polite smile as someone looks over there glasses in disgust.
    I really don't dislike animals at all.....but I did grow up on a farm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ghettocruiser View Post
    There must be some mistake.

    "Attempt to outrun" isn't in the poll.
    You have a point there. You city folk spend too much time riding paths in parks. Go ride in farm country. Some ugly farm dog spots you from the house and starts chasing you down barking growling and drooling for a good chop on your leg. Stopping isn't an option unless you want your calf to become hamburger.

    I used to do spring road rides would get chased by the same dogs each time. Made for a good mid ride sprint training interval.

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    Option 6: Let out a Teddy Ingram quality life-like mastiff impression bark from the bottom of your gut and send the dog whimpering back to its owner.

    I've only made this work once, but DAMN was it satisfying!

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    Quote Originally Posted by electrik View Post
    . I wear a bear bell now and that seems to help people put the leash back on the dog in time - even though it is a bit humiliating to go around wearing a bell. However that is the state of our world.
    I often wish one riding friend of mine wore a bear bell, he is forever getting lost behind the group and we spend way too long looking for him Sorry, He's not a dog so this is off subject...

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    And back to the thread... My wife was once bit in the face by a "friendly" Black lab just after i got back from a ride. Many stitches later I don't trust dog's a whole lot. I am also a dog owner (oxymoron?!?) but my Pug can't reach my/my kids faces. On a lunch ride I would use my precious time to get riding done. On an evening ride where the owner seemed truly upset that their dog was running away I would likely turn back. If it felt like they were calling the dog's name for my edification only I would just ride on. If I felt the dog in any way threatened me I would ride on as I am not willing to try to fix a bad "parenting" situation and end up in the ER. Like most situations on or off the bike I would read the situation and make choices based on my read. There is always a chance I read it wrong tho...

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    Seeing this article from today, I can now change from "Loop back to owner" to "Keep on Trucking" with a clear conscience.

    Lost dogs no more: Cellphone services coming for your pet - thestar.com

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    Quote Originally Posted by Circlip View Post
    Seeing this article from today, I can now change from "Loop back to owner" to "Keep on Trucking" with a clear conscience.

    Lost dogs no more: Cellphone services coming for your pet - thestar.com
    Great, another gadget for irresponsible dog owners....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Circlip View Post
    Seeing this article from today, I can now change from "Loop back to owner" to "Keep on Trucking" with a clear conscience.

    Lost dogs no more: Cellphone services coming for your pet - thestar.com
    "Using GPS and cell phone technology, makers of Tagg: The Pet Tracker, promise that if your cat or dog wanders out of bounds you will receive an email or text, complete with a map to find them."

    .......or at least their empty $200 collar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuprGrovr View Post
    "Using GPS and cell phone technology, makers of Tagg: The Pet Tracker, promise that if your cat or dog wanders out of bounds you will receive an email or text, complete with a map to find them."

    .......or at least their empty $200 collar.
    How about I'll just revert to offering "Loop back to owner" on a fee for service basis at a fraction of the cost for $20 per incident?

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    Our Jack Russell Terrier, Rocky is almost 16 years old. He is hard of hearing and has arthritis. But he very curious and playful and would prefer to chase a squirrel than a cyclist so we keep him on the leash when he is in the forest with us. He still enjoys the scents and terraine of the trails but I like keeping him safe from the hungry coyotes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerdgirl View Post
    I have to admit, I would be reluctant to stop. I just don't trust that dogs are as harmless as their owners always assure me they are. My favourite example was on signed mountain bike specific trails, a dog got very aggressive. The dog's owner kept assuring me that he was a very nice dog, but just afraid of mountain bikes. Ummm....

    Around here, it's not uncommon for unleashed dogs to take off after deer and get lost. In areas clearly signed as "leash required". Sigh. Those retractable leashes are hazardous though!
    Deer.. yes.. coyotes yes... The female coyote will lure a dog away specifically so the pack can attack it not to mention porqupine, skunk, ticks, burrdock and poison ivy it will eventually come back covered in it if doesn't roll around in a pile of some other animal's dung.

    Anyways, when I had my dogs they were always leashed on a REAL leash, not a fishing line... those are no good for dog obedience.

    Lots of bad dog owners make the same silly faces and say the same obnoxious stuff... "my dog would never ... " (fill in blank with something the dog just did) some owners are even boldfaced enough to scold and blame you for acting like prey if the dog chases and bites.

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    Quote Originally Posted by electrik View Post
    Deer.. yes.. coyotes yes... The female coyote will lure a dog away specifically so the pack can attack it not to mention porqupine, skunk, ticks, burrdock and poison ivy it will eventually come back covered in it if doesn't roll around in a pile of some other animal's dung.

    Anyways, when I had my dogs they were always leashed on a REAL leash, not a fishing line... those are no good for dog obedience.

    Lots of bad dog owners make the same silly faces and say the same obnoxious stuff... "my dog would never ... " (fill in blank with something the dog just did) some owners are even boldfaced enough to scold and blame you for acting like prey if the dog chases and bites.
    I spent the first 35 years of my life not really liking dogs that much, before marrying a dog lover and becoming a dog owner, so I can see this whole thing from both sides.

    That said, a lot of dog owners dog owners, as a rule, can't possibly imagine why anyone would not love their fuzzy little puppy as much as they do. These are the people don't take the time to properly train their dog, use retractable leashes and say things like "don't worry, he's friendly" right before their 200lb rottweiler goes for your jugular.

    Rule of thumb: there are no bad dogs. Just bad owners.
    Strava made me do it....

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    Quote Originally Posted by electrik View Post
    Lots of bad dog owners make the same silly faces and say the same obnoxious stuff... "my dog would never ... " (fill in blank with something the dog just did)
    Quote Originally Posted by Unglued View Post
    say things like "don't worry, he's friendly" right before their 200lb rottweiler goes for your jugular.
    Whenever anyone asks me "Can I pet your dog? Does he bite?" the only answer I ever give them is "He hasn't bitten anyone yet". He may never bite anyone, but that's still the only proper answer IMHO. If it doesn't give them the warm & fuzzies and they decide not to engage in petting him after that, so be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unglued View Post
    Rule of thumb: there are no bad dogs. Just bad owners.
    "It's not the band I hate; it's their fans."
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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster View Post
    "It's not the band I hate; it's their fans."

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    Great, now I have a Nickelback song stuck in my head.

    Must scrub out ears...

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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster View Post
    "It's not the band I hate; it's their fans."
    I actually quite like that band..... And agree owners are at fault before the dogs too!!

    Just to be clear I don't mean Nicelback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by egggman View Post
    Just to be clear I don't mean Nicelback...
    I'm starting to think I need a new avatar honouring Nickelback for the national treasure they are. The Hoff™ may need to step aside.

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