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    Massacre at Mansfield

    I want to Mansfield and it was a disaster,there is a logging operation going on in the south part of the forest where the big old ladder bridge is and some single track was torn up by horses and dirt bikers.It was the worst conditions I've seen all year.

    I hope we can get the trail restored in the spring.Who takes care of things out there? I'd like to help out come spring time.

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    The big old ladder bridge?

    I saw a bunch of dirt biker and horse in there like 2 months ago riding all the singletrack. What the hell is the point to fix it if there is no enforcement and a logging company comes in every 2yrs and thrashes everything.

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    Iv been on those trails more than 20 years
    Most of the trails on the north end are old dirt bike trails !
    The upper parking lot was always full of motor bike trailers.
    Where do you think all the berms and 'woops' came from ??
    Mt.bikes came alot later when the motor bikes were licked out long ago !!
    Mt bikes maintained those trails and made new ones as did the out door centre.
    ( they have their own trail system)
    The horses , well they just ride other people's trails.
    The loggers ? , can't stop them , it's their forest to log

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    Yep, same with most of the trails around here. Every couple years a section of trail gets logged and all chewed up. Nothing you can do about it....After a few repairs and a couple months of riding things are back to normal.

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    Quote Originally Posted by electrik View Post
    The big old ladder bridge?

    I saw a bunch of dirt biker and horse in there like 2 months ago riding all the singletrack. What the hell is the point to fix it if there is no enforcement and a logging company comes in every 2yrs and thrashes everything.
    Yes,one of the trails to the south of the parking lot on airport road has a big ladder bridge that is falling down.That's where the logging starts.

    Why?Because the trails are awesome.

    Quote Originally Posted by Crash&bern View Post
    Most of the trails on the north end are old dirt bike trails !
    The upper parking lot was always full of motor bike trailers.
    Where do you think all the berms and 'woops' came from ??
    Mt.bikes came alot later when the motor bikes were licked out long ago !!
    Mt bikes maintained those trails and made new ones as did the out door centre.
    ( they have their own trail system)
    The horses , well they just ride other people's trails.
    The loggers ? , can't stop them , it's their forest to log
    Yes I know.I just want to know who takes care of the trails out there.I remember reading something about who does on this forum but I can't find the post.

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    the local riders which include people like Crash & bern are responsible for whats in there

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    Quote Originally Posted by trailtrash View Post
    the local riders which include people like Crash & bern are responsible for whats in there
    Actually there are alot of people who do alot of work & I tip my hat to them !!
    Compared to them I do just a small part , as every one should who rides any trail. !
    That said , if you ride these trails , PLEASE don't dumb them down or change them. To suit your riding style or ability !
    and if your ride has four legs instead of two wheels ,
    We can share the forest , just make your own trails and we will stay off them.
    Dirt bikers ( 2 wheel) , I've no problem with. They cut some nice trails.

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    First trail south of the parking lot near airport?

    JohnnyK build that one. I can remember poaching left over shingles from when I was working out at the Nottawasaga Inn and putting them on the big long log ride.

    Trail was built as an alternative to climb up and either head off into the MOC trail or after climbing up you would bomb back down into Ken's trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash&bern View Post
    Iv been on those trails more than 20 years
    Most of the trails on the north end are old dirt bike trails !
    The upper parking lot was always full of motor bike trailers.
    Where do you think all the berms and 'woops' came from ??
    Mt.bikes came alot later when the motor bikes were licked out long ago !!
    Mt bikes maintained those trails and made new ones as did the out door centre.
    ( they have their own trail system)
    The horses , well they just ride other people's trails.
    The loggers ? , can't stop them , it's their forest to log
    Took me a couple minutes to figure out who this was.

    Kwityer*****en

    Or was it Quityer*****en?

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    Holly sensor batman you can't bit b-i-t-c-h in a post without it getting picked up.

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    Hey shirk it's easy to figure out who I am!
    Crash &....... "BERN"
    Who's this shirk ???

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    Earl

    Gotta keep an eye on the old stomping grounds from out here in BC.

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    Quote Originally Posted by electrik View Post
    The big old ladder bridge?

    I saw a bunch of dirt biker and horse in there like 2 months ago riding all the singletrack. What the hell is the point to fix it if there is no enforcement and a logging company comes in every 2yrs and thrashes everything.
    the opp was in there yesterday, but good luck catching anyone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crash&bern View Post
    Actually there are alot of people who do alot of work & I tip my hat to them !!
    Compared to them I do just a small part , as every one should who rides any trail. !
    That said , if you ride these trails , PLEASE don't dumb them down or change them. To suit your riding style or ability !
    and if your ride has four legs instead of two wheels ,
    We can share the forest , just make your own trails and we will stay off them.
    Dirt bikers ( 2 wheel) , I've no problem with. They cut some nice trails.
    i have no problem with dirt bikers, i used to be a dirt biker also back in the day. atv's on the other hand...
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    Quote Originally Posted by singlesprocket View Post
    the opp was in there yesterday, but good luck catching anyone.
    I was told by a dirt biker who did get caught ( not sure how ? ) , that the cops are there because the horse people hire them ! Not sure how true that is but I can't see motor bikes bugging anyone else in the forest

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    Quote Originally Posted by shirk View Post
    Earl

    Gotta keep an eye on the old stomping grounds from out here in BC.
    Hey Earl !
    Some of us are headed your way to go the next bc bile race

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    bile race????

    i don't know what kind of sh*t your into
    i think everyone else is going to the bike race

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    Quote Originally Posted by trailtrash View Post
    bile race????

    i don't know what kind of sh*t your into
    i think everyone else is going to the bike race
    Hehe yep sometimes I cam be full of it !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alhazred View Post
    Yes,one of the trails to the south of the parking lot on airport road has a big ladder bridge that is falling down.That's where the logging starts.

    Why?Because the trails are awesome.



    Yes I know.I just want to know who takes care of the trails out there.I remember reading something about who does on this forum but I can't find the post.
    Oh... one of the old stunts? They're logging between the two parking lots off airport?

    The trails are good, yes, but the logging is pretty intense and even though moto guys made some of the trails they're not permitted to use the forest anymore for moto!

    Moto and mtb bike can't exist on the same trail because the moto guys chew it to bits such that only other moto can use it. So if moto people are here they need to decide if they want to illegally poach the trail and drive out the mtb bikers and face the OPP and angry users or just ride their damn bikes. BTW i think the answer is obvious if you love these trails.

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    Quote Originally Posted by electrik View Post
    Oh... one of the old stunts? They're logging between the two parking lots off airport?

    The trails are good, yes, but the logging is pretty intense and even though moto guys made some of the trails they're not permitted to use the forest anymore for moto!

    Moto and mtb bike can't exist on the same trail because the moto guys chew it to bits such that only other moto can use it. So if moto people are here they need to decide if they want to illegally poach the trail and drive out the mtb bikers and face the OPP and angry users or just ride their damn bikes. BTW i think the answer is obvious if you love these trails.
    BS. Moto and mtb can share the same trail system. There was zero problems in Mansfield for years. Open fast trails without sharp zero flow corners kept the moto's from destroying any sandy corners. The hill climb was the only chewed up spot.

    Locals will continue to ride moto in there mid week for an after work rip, some of them also happen to be the same guys that mtb in there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shirk View Post
    BS. Moto and mtb can share the same trail system. There was zero problems in Mansfield for years. Open fast trails without sharp zero flow corners kept the moto's from destroying any sandy corners. The hill climb was the only chewed up spot.

    Locals will continue to ride moto in there mid week for an after work rip, some of them also happen to be the same guys that mtb in there.
    also some of the same guys who have built and maintained trails in there.

    maybe in some areas its a large problem but for most parts the locals understand the history and relationship between the two user groups here in mansfield.
    not to say there are absolutly no issues,

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    Quote Originally Posted by shirk View Post
    BS. Moto and mtb can share the same trail system. There was zero problems in Mansfield for years. Open fast trails without sharp zero flow corners kept the moto's from destroying any sandy corners. The hill climb was the only chewed up spot.

    Locals will continue to ride moto in there mid week for an after work rip, some of them also happen to be the same guys that mtb in there.
    No, they can't. All the moto i've seen just tear any singletrack to peices same as the equestrian groups, mansfield was a great place to ride, the dufferin agreement forest got a lot better, but now it's going down the shitter again.

    Why try to justify.

    a) people breaking the law.
    b) people ruining trails.

    There is a forest right across the road they can use.

    The locals can do what they want, but it's a dumb dog that pisses in it's own waterbowl.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trailtrash View Post
    also some of the same guys who have built and maintained trails in there.

    maybe in some areas its a large problem but for most parts the locals understand the history and relationship between the two user groups here in mansfield.
    not to say there are absolutly no issues,
    Ah, come on. Get back to reality and stop living in the past.

    The title of the thread is Massacre at Mansfield, not singletrack perfect and ready to shred at mansfield.

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    Quote Originally Posted by electrik View Post
    No, they can't. All the moto i've seen just tear any singletrack to peices same as the equestrian groups, mansfield was a great place to ride, the dufferin agreement forest got a lot better, but now it's going down the shitter again.

    yeah... way more destructive the quadtards.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shirk View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by electrik View Post
    No, they can't. All the moto i've seen just tear any singletrack to peices same as the equestrian groups, mansfield was a great place to ride, the dufferin agreement forest got a lot better, but now it's going down the shitter again.
    This is part of a local trail system, almost all of which was originally cut by dirt bikes.



    They still ride there from time to time and the trails are just fine.


    As a sidenote, the person on the dirt bike rides the same trails on a mountain bike.

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