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    Hiton Falls/Agreement Forest Conditions

    How are the conditions at Hilton? I was planning on heading there tomorrow or Sunday for some fat biking. I don't care about paying and parking at Hilton Falls, but is it better to come in through the Mowhak Track side or to ride up from the parking lot?
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    Halton Conservation parks are closed till Jan 2 due to the ice storm. I'd think trails are basically unrideable due to trees and branches down, there may have been some cleanup done, but I'm sure there was a lot of damage, I know people in the area still without hydro. I was out there a week ago Monday, was shocked at the lack of riding on the trails, snow was too deep for my nonfat bike, not much squishing had been done before the ice storm.

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    Turkey Point was perfect yesterday. I'll be heading up again on Saturday.

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    I was planning on getting out and doing some fat biking at Hilton this weekend. Any updates on conditions would be appreciated.
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    Quote Originally Posted by secret agent View Post
    I was planning on getting out and doing some fat biking at Hilton this weekend. Any updates on conditions would be appreciated.
    A couple posts on facebook suggest that it's not very icy (in the trails, parking lot another story) and good to go for both fat/skinny tires . Sounds like enough clearing of downfall has taken place that a descent ride can be linked together. This is in reference to starting at Mohawk, not Hilton proper.

    I'm intending on heading there tonight and will update

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    Much appreciated. I am just getting over a cold but should be up for it on Saturday. I plan on heading out tonight, but I am keeping it local and probably short. Where on FB are you looking?
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    Hilton Falls CA is still closed due to trees down and still no hydro. I've heard Halton Forest @ Mohawk conditions are good on the trails that have been opened. I think about 4 or 5 loops are open now, lots to ride. I'll be there Satuday morning.

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    Quote Originally Posted by secret agent View Post
    Much appreciated. I am just getting over a cold but should be up for it on Saturday. I plan on heading out tonight, but I am keeping it local and probably short. Where on FB are you looking?
    Defiant MTB. Check them out. They run lots of rides in there and have been organizing clean up crews. Peter W. is the godfather of Agreement forest.

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    Entered from Mohawk tonight. With the exception of the parking lot, the trails were pretty much mint (at least what had cleared and pack down). Pretty easy to follow. With the fatbike you could explore far more easily, but there appears to be enough trampled down for a steady 1.5 hour ride on a regular bike.

    Trails were not icy at all (the entry trail, just a little). I don't think many regular winter riding places around here can say that. Will be spending a good chunk of the weekend in there both Sat and Sun

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    Thanks again. I will be heading out tomorrow around lunch time after I get my chores done. They never seem to get done after rides.
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    Quote Originally Posted by secret agent View Post
    Thanks again. I will be heading out tomorrow around lunch time after I get my chores done. They never seem to get done after rides.
    Should be out at a relatively similar time. If you see two fatties and two puppies, say hello.

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    OK, I've looked all over, but I can't find out where this agreement forest is.

    I know where the Hilton Falls trails are, where there is cross country skiing in winter, but you guys keep mentioning Mohawk Raceway and the Agreement forest.

    Are these different locations?

    I've found a few links in response for people asking for directions, but they're either gone now or don't show the trail entrance.

    Could someone post a map or specific directions to this trail?

    Thanks

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    The trail head is across the street from the racetrack. There is a small parking lot there as well. The parking lot is hidden from view somewhat.

    I'll be sure to stop and say hello Cpt. I love dogs. I have never been stopped so much since I got the fat bike by hikers and other cyclists. It was at least 4 times at Dundas Valley and one couple took pictures. Lots of people love the fatties.
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    SHORTHILLS CYCLING CLUB ? View topic - Campbellville, ON ~ Hilton Falls - GPS & Trail Maps

    Quote Originally Posted by sputnikcdn View Post
    OK, I've looked all over, but I can't find out where this agreement forest is.

    I know where the Hilton Falls trails are, where there is cross country skiing in winter, but you guys keep mentioning Mohawk Raceway and the Agreement forest.

    Are these different locations?

    I've found a few links in response for people asking for directions, but they're either gone now or don't show the trail entrance.

    Could someone post a map or specific directions to this trail?

    Thanks

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    This map includes Hilton & Agreement Forest. It was posted a few years ago by someone on the forum.

    http://fcdn.mtbr.com/attachments/eas...ntable_map.pdf

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    Hiton Falls/Agreement Forest Conditions-hilton_printable_map-1-_page_2.jpg
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    Wow, thanks everyone, for the great response! The entrance is not at all where I expected (I thought it was on the East side of the region!) and there seems to be a helluva lot more trails than I remember.

    Last time I rode at Hilton Falls, only the green line (or something like that) was a proper mountain bike trail...

    One of these days I'll get in there.

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    There is very limited parking on 6th line which is on the East side.
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    Thank you very much for the heads up on the trail conditions out in th AF, tonight's ride was sweet. Grip is good, the trail is packed nicely and we were able to get a good hustle on.

    Ride on!
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    OMG that map! So awesome, thank you.

    Any chance of sharing a higher resolution?

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    Another access point is the intersection of 10 sideroad and Fourth LIne, it''s wide enough to park 4 or 5 cars there. you can head south on the road allowance to the Mohawk stuff or south then east to the pines or the other trails that are shown on the map. the road allowance was a little icy and hadn't been ridden much last night...
    Hey Todd, was that you in the group of three last night just before dark? There was 2 of us going the other way.

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    Yes that was me...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg_o View Post
    OMG that map! So awesome, thank you.

    Any chance of sharing a higher resolution?
    Here you go:


    Click on the pic to enlarge.

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    Thanks SuprGrovr!!!

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    The conditions at Hilton were perfect today. Saw mostly fatties in there. But did not see the Cpt. And the two dogs. No ice to be found and it is perfect for skinny tires in there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by secret agent View Post
    The conditions at Hilton were perfect today. Saw mostly fatties in there. But did not see the Cpt. And the two dogs. No ice to be found and it is perfect for skinny tires in there.
    Great day in there. Got a 2.5 hour ride in. Sorry I didn't see you.

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    Heading over to AF on Saturday noonish. If anyone has any update on conditions please let me know. If you see a guy on a Beargrease with a blue jacket, say hello.
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    On Sunday most trails were darn near perfect, 5 bridges was potholey with footprints and the bridges themselves are icy (I rode off 2 of them). conditions should be about the same, depending on how much snow we get tomorrow. Saturday is supposed to get cold and windy in the afternoon, a morning ride might be a little warmer!

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    thanks, i was there last saturday and indeed perfect conditions. I will get there as early as I can.
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    Trails will not likely be as perfect as last week due to drifting. Some may be a tough slog!

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    Lots of snow in there. Made no progress on the fatties today. Luckily had the snowshoes in the car and did 4-5 km. They are definitely the weapon of choice till some traffic gets through there.

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    So, chances of being able to ride in there tomorrow on regular tires?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jduffett View Post
    So, chances of being able to ride in there tomorrow on regular tires?
    No chance, unless there happened to be an adventure snowshoe race there this afternoon.

    There was 6+ inches of fresh powder in there and it wasn't packing down very well with the cold temperatures. It's gonna take lots of foot traffic.

    The group we had last weeks has all bailed in favour of ski's and snowshoes.

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    I heard the same thing from someone else and bailed on AF yesterday. I did an extended ride in the Culham trail. Ran into a guy with a Bigfoot and we ended up on a 2 hour plus trek. Sometimes things just work out. The whole trail system is perfect for fat biking right now. Ran into a guy with skinny tires, but he did not look to be having a lot of fun.
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    Thread revival...

    any riders been out to the AF recently? Was hoping to do a ride there tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmto View Post
    Thread revival...

    any riders been out to the AF recently? Was hoping to do a ride there tomorrow.
    Drove by on my road bike and there were cars at the 6th line lot. But I've not been there on the bike, sorry.

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    I'll drop by for a couple hrs and see how it is. Shouldn't be too soft otherwise we'll just stay on the rocks LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by hmto View Post
    Thread revival...

    any riders been out to the AF recently? Was hoping to do a ride there tomorrow.
    I was at Hilton Falls yesterday, there were a few muddy spots and some puddles, but it was officially open and the rocky trails were in great condition.

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    thanks sput, had to reschedule so will def be out next week

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    A riding buddy was out at ST Helena section yesterday and said it was quite dry and ride-able. He figures he ventured into part of the Agreement Forest, but everywhere he rode was pretty good.
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    was there last weekend and it was brutal. so many trees down on singletrack. Will take lots of volunteer days.

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    was in AF today, conditions were good, muddy in a few spots, but still very rideable, bridges were dry, rocky sections were dry as well with mud down below
    easily beats any bike path

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    Hilton falls was good, but just as decard says, muddy spots.
    Too rocky and technical for my liking though, no flow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SO_DOGE View Post
    Too rocky and technical for my liking though, no flow.
    No flow?!?! You just have to know where to look. There is tons of flow. It just comes in sections 15-20' at a time

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    I have to agree, I had to learn to ride 20 feet ahead of my front tire
    it really helps to maintain momentum or flow thru the rocky sections
    otherwise you will have to tripod all the way thru which is neither stylish or fun

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    I will be honest, this place scared me a little at first, but once you get past the fear of crashing on rocks, there is some great riding. Nice to hear that it is a good fat bike option as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raidthefridgeguy View Post
    I will be honest, this place scared me a little at first, but once you get past the fear of crashing on rocks, there is some great riding. Nice to hear that it is a good fat bike option as well.
    Went there for the first time today. Have only been to Puslinch and Hydrocut (getting back into Mtb after years way). I loved the technical section of Beaver Dam, it was good for my level of skill. Couldn't do much on Bent Rim, and very little on Wally and the Beav. Is the AF section very rocky? Certainly a good place to work on skills...and I can use that.

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    AF is quite rocky, but not as difficult as bent rim. Smaller rocks in general.definitely a good place to hone your technical skills. One of my favorite places to ride apart from buckwallow.
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    Was there this morning, surprisingly dry for the most part. Haven't been in a couple months, was a very nice not getting eaten alive by mosquitos this time.
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    AF is awesome all year round, but the fall is my favorite time. The bugs are gone, the leaves are just coming down, and the temperatures are perfect. The place stays fairly dry in many areas. If you avoid the southern part toward Five Bridges and stick to the Mohawk entrance trails and the stuff off 4th line and towards 6th, you can get a lot of dry trail even at this time of year. It should be completely firmed up by tonight though.
    Looking forward to fat biking in there all winter.
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