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    The Giro: A Ryder Repeat?

    Stage 3 just ended and it was a punchy affair. Can Ryder ride away with Pink or are the likes of Wiggins, Scarponi, Nibali or Rodriguez just too strong? Discuss!
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    While I'd love to pull the patriotic card here and front Ryder for a repeat, I think the level of competition for this 2013 has gone up a notch - beyond his capabilities. He'll probably do well, and be in the top-5 barring misfortune, but another win seems like a stretch. I'd be happy to be pleasantly surprised and completely wrong though!

    Regardless, even a top-5 or top-10 is nothing to sneeze at. Before last year's result that would still be the best GT finish for a Canadian since the Bauer era. One GT win is infinite times more than the zero that the vast majority of pro riders can count on their palmares.

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    I don't follow road racing that carefully, but they had an in depth discussion during the first stage about Ryder and his chances. Apart from stiff competition, teams will be taking him more seriously this year and use several tactics to try and break him. They commented that he basically came out of nowhere last year and that not enough attention was paid to him and that helped him win. I wish him all the best, and hope he doesn't have any serious mechanical issues or crashes. There were enough of them on the first stage. I haven't looked today hoping there is a repeat to watch along with the Leaf's game tonight.

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    As others have mentioned, the deck is a little more stacked against him this year than last, but all things being equal, there is no reason why he should not be up there with the other GC contenders, and as we all know, from that point anything can happen. I'd say he's in with a fighting chance.

    Bear in mind that many of the riders in GM's original post may choose to concentrate on the TdF depending on how the race unfolds - Wiggins in particular. Then again, so might Ryder.

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    Win or not it's great to see that he's out there trying to make it happen. Solid effort today.

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    The rider that will win it this year will be the rider on the best juice! I just hope that it will be Ryder!

    Also Wiggins should keep his mouth shut about him and his team being clean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by pucked up View Post
    The rider that will win it this year will be the rider on the best juice!
    Probably.

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    I just hope that it will be Ryder!
    If that were the only way, I'd rather have him lose - with some dignity.

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    Also Wiggins should keep his mouth shut about him and his team being clean.
    Yep. Their time will come. Not before they've all made millions of dollars and ridden off into the sunset though.

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    Sorry, to busy actually riding bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduramil View Post
    Sorry, to busy actually riding bikes.
    You're riding 24hrs a day? Wow that is just amazing.

    Stages finish about 8:30am here locally so I like to take 10-15 minutes in my morning to check in on the results and find a highlight reel of the stage.

    Just because some people like to follow the Giro/Tour doesn't mean it replaces actually riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduramil View Post
    Sorry, to busy actually riding bikes.
    Judging by the number of posts you make on this forum I'd venture a guess as to say you don't actually spend much time riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedumbopinion View Post
    Judging by the number of posts you make on this forum I'd venture a guess as to say you don't actually spend much time riding.
    Now, now...

    You're aiming that post count arrow at some good folks who are in a similar range (not that I'm thinking of anyone specific ), or higher. Doesn't make someone any better or worse. It's just a post count.

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    Zing!


    anyway, best of luck to Ryder.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedumbopinion View Post
    Judging by the number of posts you make on this forum I'd venture a guess as to say you don't actually spend much time riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduramil View Post
    I'm a madman with a box.
    Stupidest TV show in the history of the human race, bar none. Do you know why? There's no crapper in there. Seriously, what the fans of the program refuse to acknowledge is that the entire premise is based around travelling through time and space trying to find a toilet before they pee themselves (again). They may dress it up a bit into yet another obscure save the universe plot, but when push comes to shove it's still all about the crapper. Lame.

    What does this rant have to do with Ryder and the Giro? Probably nothing, although it may have some pointed inferences about triathletes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Circlip View Post
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    What does this rant have to do with Ryder and the Giro? Probably nothing, although it may have some pointed inferences about triathletes.
    Well, since you asked so nicely.

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    Sky is just too strong. Wiggins will win this EVEN WITH the whole team concentrating on the TDF.

    Also, thank you GM for finally pointing out Rodriguez finally got the whole status thing sorted out with Katusha and IS in this race too. Every other 'lead up' I've read seems to gloss over his presence.
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    Struggling to get used to the new guy on eurosport. I'm sure he'll grow on me but I did like the chemistry between Sean and David. Looks like David will be back for the Tour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by XLNC View Post
    Also, thank you GM for finally pointing out Rodriguez ... IS in this race too.
    Or.... he's not. lol


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    Quote Originally Posted by Circlip View Post
    I think the level of competition for this 2013 has gone up a notch - beyond his capabilities.
    I really want to see you eat your hat on that comment.

    I think Ryder is way under rated even after last years win.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shirk View Post
    I really want to see you eat your hat on that comment.

    I think Ryder is way under rated even after last years win.
    He's looking good, playing it smart so far. I'd also love to eat my hat on my own comment, but it doesn't change the objective analysis that his top competitors from 2012 don't have the GT palmares of this year's crew, and that Ryder doesn't have any demonstrated edge over same in GTs (recognizing also that his prior opportunities to show his actual level as team leader were almost nil).

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    Well it doesn't look like you'll be eating any words.

    Seems like he's lost any snap in legs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shirk View Post
    Well it doesn't look like you'll be eating any words.

    Seems like he's lost any snap in legs.
    I'd rather be eating a full meal of my words. It seems that, despite best attempts at preparation to defend, he's simply arrived at this Giro with poor form. Whether last year was finally a chance to show his true level, or if it was just a case of all the planets aligning allowing him to perhaps overachieve a bit, we may never know. He isn't getting any younger and may not be given many other opportunities to take a serious run as a GT leader.

    Not sure if it matters anyhow. Even a single GT win is rarefied air that relatively few pro riders will ever see, and a remarkable achievement. The few riders who can reach that level time and time again in the modern climate, are perhaps not so worthy of praise for reasons hinted at in other posts in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shirk View Post
    Well it doesn't look like you'll be eating any words.

    Seems like he's lost any snap in legs.
    Good old Wiggo ain't lookin' so hot either right now.

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    looks like the answer now is unequivocally no.
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