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    Durham Forest Conditions

    Rode Durham last night....most snow is gone...making for a fast/icy tract.
    Some sections were a little rough...due to freezing of previous bike/boot tracks...
    Studs were almost a given

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    Thanks for the update. I plan on hitting it tonight, although no studs so I'll be going slow(ish).

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    I was wondering if I'd be able to ride. Thanks for the update. Unfortunately I'm already in hibernation mode. haha

    Enjoy the rides!

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    Awesome conditions this morning - we all had studs and could keep a pretty good speed going. Surface was hard ice pack with snow dusting, some area we broke through the ice & found puddles but those were few & far between.

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    Another sweet day In Durham forest..

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    Was there much ice under the snow? I was in some forest close to there last weekend and took a hard wipeout on the ice, I need studs.

    Nice pics, looks a great day for a ride.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Face Visor View Post
    Was there much ice under the snow? I was in some forest close to there last weekend and took a hard wipeout on the ice, I need studs.

    Nice pics, looks a great day for a ride.
    I've been in Durham for the past month or so, riding each weekend. Ever since the last thaw studs are preferable, when (not if) you find the ice you get sufficient warning and can decide what you're going to do.
    Last weekend even hikers were having a rough time standing up it was so icy. With studs it was a non issue.

    Get a set, they last forever and will save your butt when you least expect it.

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    Last weekend it was pretty much pure ice. I rode there last night and the 2-3" of new snow provided some traction on top of the ice base. It's all changed tonight though, will have the XC skis out on Sat.

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    Can't wait until tomorrow. I'm hoping to be one of the first people there with XC skis. I love breaking trail! GM and WW will be beautiful!

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    Anybody been out today....Just looking to see if the drive to Durham will be worth it....??

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    I live about 10 minutes away and we have about 1 foot of snow on the ground and drifts as high as 2.5 feet. It's highly unlikely that enough of the trails will be sufficiently packed down by foot traffic for a decent ride.

    A better bet would be Ravenshoe as it tends to get much more foot traffic. I'm heading there tomorrow morning to check it out.

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    anybody been here lately? any updates?

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    Not ridable yet, lots of soft slushy snow. Need the snow to melt and the ground to thaw, then it will be ridable. Probably a few weeks yet

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    Ravenshoe has been rideable. Last weekend there was a bit of new snow on top of a ribbon of ice. This Friday and Saturday should be okay in the morning if it get's below freezing overnight. Looks like it will be too warm and possibly raining on Sunday.

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    Anyone been have an update?...
    Looking to ride early morning....maybe on Sunday

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    I've just went out yesterday to Heber Downs in Whitby, I know there would be less snow there then at DF and even here the trails were not ride-able. I'd say it was 60% un-ride-able conditions so I'm only gonna assume Durham Forest is still a good 3ish weeks away from no snow or ice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigGK View Post
    I've just went out yesterday to Heber Downs in Whitby, I know there would be less snow there then at DF and even here the trails were not ride-able. I'd say it was 60% un-ride-able conditions so I'm only gonna assume Durham Forest is still a good 3ish weeks away from no snow or ice.
    Heber Downs? do they have good trails in the summer??

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    Agree with BigGk was up in DF/Walkers Woods Fri evening on foot and there is a good 6-12" of packed snow on the trail and off trail is just as bad but soft. Can't say what Sat and Sunday did to it, but I agree, won't be any riding up there for a good 3 weeks at this rate.

    Hope the local horse farms and owners don't go on the trails during the thaw like last year, already saw horse prints. From what I understand talking to the various horse people (and horse chiro) that I know, super unsafe for the horses when it is that soft and deep as they can blow the tendons in their feet making for a useless horse.
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    I enjoy Heber quite a bit and ride there in the summer for training and just getting outside. The trail system there is mainly double track with a fairly minimal amount of single track, but they have some really good lung burner climbs in there, and places to work on your flat land wattage. Also really good for getting your sand on when it gets really dry. I'd rather go to Durham Forest personally, but if I'm just going to get on the bike Heber is a great place. Hopefully enough interest forms, and we can do more with it, there's lots of opportunity there.

    Its also child carrier friendly if you're just out for a ride with the family.

    DF is thawed in some parts but still wet, and snow covered in others. I'd stay off the trails to allow them time to dry out and get going for the spring season. DMBA reports show the trails aren't ready for riding yet unless you want to rip them up an prolong the maintenance season for us.

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    Based on all the above inputs, how is the weekly series racing going to start next week at Durham Forest...

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    Odds are... probably pushed a week.

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    At this rate, I am hoping for a possible ride the weekend of April 20/21. If not, perhaps the following weekend, April 27/28. I guess it depends on winter snow cover and spring weather. We had a decent amount of snow in the later half of winter this year, and spring weather has not been very sunny or warm so far. While Durham Forest is well drained, it doesn't help when the ground is semi-frozen and semi-snow covered. I will keep waiting. I may do a couple of punishing rides up to Durham on the gravel roads, only to look down the trail and turn around and ride home. It's a bit like torture, delayed gratification, but it helps to work up my fitness for the season.

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    I don't mind the snow or slush. It's when everything melts and it becomes all muddy. It's bad for the riders, bikes and most important of all, the trails. I was at the Don on Monday and Tuesday. Monday at 10am was great. I was expecting yesterday to be the same as it was colder, but because I went in the afternoon, all the hard frozen stuff became soft and muddy. Monday morning was pretty good, at least 50/50 in entire Don area and up to 95% at certain parts.

    Don is the one that can be ridable at first in spring time. If Don is 50/50, Durham is not rideable.

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    We did the same on Friday with regards to DF - rode up from Whitby on various back roads, all told was 36k, locked the bikes up and changed and went into the forest on foot for 5hrs.

    Was thinking of the Don this morning, we need some single track in a bad way as we have a race May 18th and we know we will be punished with probably 40-50k of single track and another 20 or so of gravel/access roads... bring on the sun and heat!
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    They are forecasting warmer temperatures and rain on and off which will help to melt the snow.

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    So today morning I decided to hop on my mtb an ride up to Durham Forest on the quiet side roads..
    The plan was to do a couple of laps on the double track and take a visual on the single tracks....
    When I got to the microwave towers this is what welcomed me:

    I think the race series opener will be pushed at least with a week, but more likely with two....
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    Mild weather and rain. We need rain.

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    Durham Forest Conditions

    Forecast this week looks good for melting snow, but I don't see how the Thursday race could go ahead this week. I would think next week is questionable too because it takes a few days of warm sun to thaw the ground and let the draining happen.

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    hopefully DF is getting the rain I'm getting in Whitby right now. Went to Heber downs again today, it was 90% clear. Just too small sections where theres more tree cover. So I'm assuming DF still has ice/snow, just hoping its gone down a noticeable amount

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    How was the Rail trail along the back section, it always seems to be really wet this time of year? If its clear I think I may venture in tomorrow.

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    Just back from a walk with the wife and dog, if I was a betting man I'd say 3 weeks before riding, unless it stays well above 0 for the next 2 weeks. Some sections were clear, Logs over Easy was ice in sections but clear in a few. The ice in these pictures was probably 2-4" thick still, but again, some sections were mud, but you could feel the ice underneath. These were taken walking down the single track trail that the kids use for orienteering by the main lot.

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    Oh - as this was saved in the same online photoalbum, this is a pic from last year, a hole from a horse footprint, that water bottle is 11" tall.

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    Wow. I went for a ride in earlier November and remarked at how great it was to ride so late in the season with such amazing riding conditions. I guess you can't have it all every year. Looks like Durham Forest will be a late start. This has been one long and grumpy winter...lol. I guess I have more time to get in shape, maybe get my gear and equipment ready to ride or something. I dunno. Gotta think positive
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    Was up in 3Rock (the Sisters) a couple hours ago running. Took the access road west (muddy and wet there at the bottom) and made my way to the lookout over the valley (sorry, left the camera in the car). Up through the single track and then back to the car. I'd say 95% of the trail was decently rideable with 8km that we ran only 2 or 3 spots were pretty muddy and if I was on a bike would probably walk the bike instead of making a rut.

    With that being said there were a few bad ruts and we tried running sideways on them to flatten them down.

    3Rock will easily be all rideable by the weekend, if not sooner especially with tomorrow also supposed to be sunny and +12 (scary, I actually had to put the + sign!), mind you, Wed is supposed to rain

    I plan on going up on Wed again, if we don't get any rain I will ride, if it does rain I will run, I'll also have more time so will get farther into the trails.

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    Best news I've heard in a while! With DF still being wet, I was worried that Glen Major would be out of the picture for another week or so. I might have to swing up there on Friday afternoon to scope it out. Thanks for the info.

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    Out last night after work...and the conditions were nearly perect!!
    Trails were tacky - dry
    weather was 18-20c cloudy
    bug count was "zero"

    NICE

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    They started the Thurs night series last week and tonight is the first official DMBA Group ride at the main lot. (if you are not a member, it is a good club/association to join). I was out riding Sat night and the trails were good then too, just leaf covered, which is great for Ticks to be hiding in

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    Thinking of going tommorow or Sunday. Bit last minute but wondering if anyone could recommend a ~15 - 20 km route for someone's first time there?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg_o View Post
    Thinking of going tommorow or Sunday. Bit last minute but wondering if anyone could recommend a ~15 - 20 km route for someone's first time there?
    If you've never been there, I'd suggest printing off a map, although not all trails are marked and very few trail junctions in the main forest. Way too many options to suggest a route, and hard to describe.

    Here is a link to the maps on the DMBA site.

    http://http://durhammountainbiking.c.../durham-forest

    Couldn't tell you how many people I've helped back to the lot over the years!! But that is also how you learn the trails!

    I'm heading up there in a few minutes actually, I'll be the nutbar running all the trails (and I do mean all!).

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    Norco will be doing a demo today out of the main lot from 10-3pm. Great way to check out all the new Hotness ! In sure the Sight and Range Killer B stuff will be the most in demand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by osteo View Post
    If you've never been there, I'd suggest printing off a map, although not all trails are marked and very few trail junctions in the main forest. Way too many options to suggest a route, and hard to describe.

    Here is a link to the maps on the DMBA site.

    http://http://durhammountainbiking.c.../durham-forest

    Couldn't tell you how many people I've helped back to the lot over the years!! But that is also how you learn the trails!

    I'm heading up there in a few minutes actually, I'll be the nutbar running all the trails (and I do mean all!).

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    It was a great day of riding yesterday. Nice to see so many families out.

    I also took advantage of the norco demos and got myself out on a 650b for the first time. I did a 30 min loop on a sight killer B. Very impressive ride. I think 650b is going to be very attractive to a lot of riders.

    time to head back out!

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    Our ride at Glen Major today (just south of Durham forest). In short, summer is here!

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    Durham Forest after the rains...

    Planning to hit Durham Forest proper (north east Forest Centre parking lot) after work today. Hoping that despite the rain, the well drained sandy soils are ridable. I know that the whole of the complex of Duffin Headwaters trails, Glen Major, Walker Property, Forest Centre trails etc is generally good for drainage being on the morraine, however I have had the best experience in wet conditions on trails starting from the forest centre.

    Has anybody ridden up there soon after, or during rainy conditions this year?

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    A few times. Durham should be alright for riding. It'll drain well. Glen Major might be a bit wet and erosion ready so staying off them might be advisable but I'm not sure how much rain they got.

    Durham should be fine to ride tonight. Just a bit damp, so a post ride beer and wash may be what the doctor ordered.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 14Stone View Post
    A few times. Durham should be alright for riding. It'll drain well. Glen Major might be a bit wet and erosion ready so staying off them might be advisable but I'm not sure how much rain they got.

    Durham should be fine to ride tonight. Just a bit damp, so a post ride beer and wash may be what the doctor ordered.
    Agreed, plus we didn't get much rain in Uxbridge yesterday afternoon/evening.

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    I was up there in 3Rock last night running, ran from the 3 Rock up to the Bell Tower and back from 5:30-7:30p and as mentioned by Face Visor there was little rain at least then. The trails were rideable with only a couple spots that were really low being wet/muddy puddles. DF is usually a bit drier so I think you should be fine as well - also as mentioned above.
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    Sounds good. As long as it doesn't rain too much late this afternoon or evening we're good to go. Not so much for conditions, but for the ride. Not fun riding in a hard rain. I think we'll go to the forest centre and that way we're garanteed best conditions...and fun singletrack...

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    Just did walker woods this morning. I thought it was close to perfect conditions. Not super wet (no giant puddles) but damp so not to dry. I prefer the wet/mud personally but thats just me. Only thing I will tell you is bring bug spray. dear lord the mosquito's are pretty gnarly right now.

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    Rode the Forest Centre trails Tuesday July 9 evening and it was good. Slightly cooler up there vs the city/burbs of Toronto. Conditions were great. Mosquitos were bad. POISON IVY galore.

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    DF is great to escape the heat and evening when it's pouring, trail condition will still be good.

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