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    Christie conditions?

    Anyone been at Christie since the big thaw?
    Pure ice or rideable?

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    To answer my own question - Christie is in great shape. Was on the Pugsley.
    Thanks to all the people that must have been out picking up branches.

    The double track is icy with about 2 inches of fresh snow on top but it wasn't a problem, no slipping.
    The single track has a couple of inches of crunchy old snow with 1 to 2 inches of fresh snow on top. The crunchy snow gives great traction.
    No problems with ice at all. Open areas need a bit of traffic on them, they are hard work but very rideable.
    Happy Hawthorn was like that since it's open - rideable but hard work, needs a couple more bikes through it.
    The Trillium trail is rideable and good end to end. I cleaned up a couple of big deadfalls and its all clean.
    Crash and Berm had a lot of branches on it but I cleaned it up and it's good end to end. Couple of branches are frozen down so I had to just break the small branches off. There is the top of a pine on the trail at the top of Crash and Berm that I couldn't move but I was able to break the end off so you can get by.
    Didn't make it to Runway or the new part of Crash and Berm.

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    Was at Christie today. The section of the Trillium trail in the pines is rideable - from the start to the X crossing at Happy Hawthorn and back through the pines. I walked most of Happy Hawthorn - it's not rideable without a lot more traffic. The eastern part of the Trillium trail hasn't had much traffic, I didn't try it.
    The snow is so fine and cold that it doesn't give much traction, lots of side slipping traversing hills. Will need to age a bit. Lots of ski and snowshoe traffic on the Trillium trail through the pines. I went back and forth a bunch of times so it's not bad.

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    What's the werd out @ Christie these days? Rideable or no...? Would be nice to switch things up a bit.
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    I was there Tuesday afternoon.
    Hard to describe. Definitely fatbike only. The snow is crusty so rideable anywhere there has been traffic. The road back in is very bumpy but rideable. I rode the Trillium trail back to the X interchange at Happy Hawthorn and back several times. It's OK and rideable, a bit frustrating trying to stay on the foot wide track. But I can't ride a line if my life depended on it. The open area going east after crossing the double track is a bit loose. Traction is good, any time I walked it was just due to getting off line.
    Some of the other tracks look like they could be ridden if they got some traffic on them.

    I see they are finally starting to clean up the downed trees etc. in the park.
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    Anyone been on the trails at Christie? I haven't been there since the thaw.
    Assuming we don't get much rain today and tonight will they be rideable for the weekend?
    Otherwise it will be Turkey Point or Puslinch.

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    Christie trails are in great shape and all cleaned up. A few spots where the ground is soft enough to leave tread marks but thats it. There is some rutting in 2 or 3 spots where people have been on it when it was wet.

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    Was at Cristie today, Saturday. Took the fat bike cause I expected conditions to be soft. Big surprise, trails were solid, no soft spots at all. One tiny puddle but even it wasn't soft.
    Wanted to try out the OnOne floater that just arrived, replaced the Endomorph. Seems like a good tire, wish I had ordered 2. I've been playing with a 22lb carbon 26er lately, couldn't believe how heavy the Pugsley was. Sounds like a tractor going through the berms but once you get it rolling it keeps going, corners like you wouldn't believe.
    My 2nd fastest time for Ebb and Flow and G-out trail, seems hard to believe.
    A bunch of kids were up there playing on the G-out, having a ball. Was waiting for someone to crash but they were doing great.

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    It's been really busy at Christie every time I've so far this season. I always seem to see at least one or two riders out there no matter what time it is.
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    Was up at Christie late this afternoon. Looks like lots of people have been riding when it was wet and soft - lots of ruts. Was surprised, even G-out had ruts on the loops.

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    Anyone been up at Christie this week? Wonder if it is icy after last weekend's thaw?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slash5 View Post
    Anyone been up at Christie this week? Wonder if it is icy after last weekend's thaw?

    I can't speak directly to Christie, but I've attempt to ride locally in Hamilton and it's extremely icy. I made it around the Iroquois trails on my fatbike (no studs) but it wasn't very much fun. Heard reports of Waterdown being very icy as well.

    So I suspect that Christie saw a fair amount of traffic before the thaw to pack down the trails and is likely very similar as that's all turned into ice.

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    I was there for a walk around on Wednesday, looks like singletrack is all ice, but I did see someone riding a bike with their dog on the doubletrack, it was some crunchy snow mixed in with the ice, they weren't crashing so I'd assume they had studded tires.

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    Mr. Monster's been there really recently and says it's a skating rink. The doubletrack is barely rideable without studs and the singletrack is impossible. Also, there was obviously someone who rode there in the late fall when they really shouldn't have, leaving deep ruts. That said, the logging is supposed to start sometime in the next couple of months, so one bad bike track might be pretty minor.

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    Yep, was polished ice almost everywhere. Even the double track. Put the studded tires on the 26er last night.
    Even with studs, had to put a foot down sometimes. Still had a good ride.
    Other than the ice, the trails are pretty good, not too narrow. Some ruts, must have been a few people riding last Sunday in the slush.
    Ran into 3 guys with regular tires - not sure how they made it as far as they did. One other rider with studded tires.

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    I rode from Webster's into Christie today (skinny tires). It was a pretty tough slog just to get there along the creek. Rideable, but barely, and I had to walk in a couple of spots. The double track coming from the dam was possibly even worse, despite more foot and ski traffic. I had to walk most uphills. It just isn't packing that well, and there is still ice underneath. I tried one section of single track (Runway or whatever it is called), which had a single bike track through parts of it (looked like CX tires!). Part of it was okay, but there was a lot of ice underneath. Sort of fun trying to get up enough speed to stay high enough on the berms that you're off the ice! Anyway, it was good to be out, but I wouldn't recommend it... Maybe the stuff on the west side is in better shape?

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    Just a heads up that they are going to be removing rows of the pine trees starting in mid February and going until the end of March 2015. It will probably be a pretty big mess in there and the area will be closed while the work is going on. There will be signs posted about it at the entrance when the work starts.

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    I don't think we'll be riding at Christie for a while - need a bit of a thaw to firm things up. Didn't check the single track, it's probably not as deep. Some parts of the double track are knee deep.


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    Why are they harvesting trees in a conservation area, anybody know?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggie View Post
    Why are they harvesting trees in a conservation area, anybody know?
    Don't quote me on this, but I thought I heard mention previously that they are trying to return the forest to a more 'natural' setting. So maybe removing large swabs of replanted pine to let the natural carolinian forest regrow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Biggie View Post
    Why are they harvesting trees in a conservation area, anybody know?
    They're thinning every third row of the planted pines to allow deciduous succession (as the Cpt correctly speculated). They were actually supposed to do it decades ago, but couldn't afford it. At least stuff is now frozen and snow covered. It will hopefully protect the trails...

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    so is christies ridable February 7 - 15 ?
    was in there last friday and it was less then fun
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    Just home from skiing at Christie.
    I'd say it's not worth taking a bike up there. They have plowed a track on the double track but I'm not sure how far it goes, I only saw to the top of the hill by the Trillium trail.
    I broke trail on the Trillium trail and the new part of Ebb and Flow. In the deep woods the snow is 3-4 inches, in most places it's 6" and in open areas it's a foot deep. Still very powdery, at times I couldn't see my skis.
    No bike tire tracks.

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    thanks, figured as much
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    A little bird tells me that skiing conditions at Christie are mint. Biking conditions, not so much.

    The tree thinning is scheduled to start next week, but they won't be closing any trails. That bodes well for the bike trails - frozen ground and lots of cushioning snow.

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    I'll be out late this afternoon. We should organize a trail party, pack a couple of trails down - I could supply 2 pairs of men's snowshoes and 1 pair of women's. And I'll have my skis.
    More snow Wednesday.

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    Yesterday was a great day to be out, booked off at 3:30 for a couple hours.
    I'd say that the eastern loop of the Trillium trail might be rideable on a fat bike. The western section to the "X" interchange is almost there - a bit more traffic would do it. Past that into Happy Hawthorn isn't possible.
    The new section of Ebb and Flow needs some more traffic and it would be good. That section is a great ski trail.
    Looks like there was a group of snowshoers through there but unfortunately for biking they didn't stick to the trail.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slash5 View Post
    Yesterday was a great day to be out, booked off at 3:30 for a couple hours.
    I'd say that the eastern loop of the Trillium trail might be rideable on a fat bike. The western section to the "X" interchange is almost there - a bit more traffic would do it. Past that into Happy Hawthorn isn't possible.
    The new section of Ebb and Flow needs some more traffic and it would be good. That section is a great ski trail.
    Looks like there was a group of snowshoers through there but unfortunately for biking they didn't stick to the trail.
    We saw your trails Slash, those little skis look like they would be great for packing a fatbike trail. Snow shoes seem to pack a little, but stir up the snow until you get critical mass through there (> 6 with this much snow). Regular skis leave the large gap in the middle, but those skis seem like you'd only need a couple passes and it would be a smooth, flat trail.

    We skied there last night. Hit a bunch of the singletrack. Trillium was okay, but I still found it a bit too narrow and twisty to skis. Happy Hawthorne was a challenge. We skied some doubletrack, and maybe it was just the stuff I was on, but between the plowing and a skidoo that go in there, it was pretty crappy.

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    It's begun!
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    Wow - where is that picture taken? Cold day to be out.

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    Out by the disc golf course.

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    Was out tonight to remove that tree down on the eastern section of Trillium. Also took down that sapling hanging down on the central part of Trillium. That damn thing got me every time, even put a dent in my helmet earlier this week.
    The mosquitoes are nuts at Christie - wore sweats, work boots, long sleeves, a hat and lots of bug spray. Even had a dog walker come and ask if they could use my bug spray.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slash5 View Post
    Was out tonight to remove that tree down on the eastern section of Trillium. Also took down that sapling hanging down on the central part of Trillium. That damn thing got me every time, even put a dent in my helmet earlier this week.
    The mosquitoes are nuts at Christie - wore sweats, work boots, long sleeves, a hat and lots of bug spray. Even had a dog walker come and ask if they could use my bug spray.
    Thanks - the weather has been so brutal on Sundays that it's been a while since the crew has been out.

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    Finally got around to riding Christie Lake trails in an attempt to appreciate any new trails.
    Started with Ebb and Flow, which was OK but made me dizzy. It appears to be a favourite with teenage boys though.
    Then I discovered Trillium, which then lead to Happy Hawthorn. Very nice, with some great transitions from deep forest to open conifer stands (from recent harvesting I understand). Twisty turny with some gentle changes in altitude (OK, extremely gentle). Nothing technical, but fun none the less.

    My only criticism....MORE PLEASE!
    Unfortunately, I did miss finding Punchbowl.

    Is it worth $10 a ride? Not really. When combined with Dundas Valley for the day? Sure.
    But hey, any new trails is better than losing trails.

    Nice work Hamilton Cycling…MORE PLEASE.
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    Thanks Ricksom. We work hard to make sure the trails are perfect before we open them (no "riding in" a rough rake and ride) so building is a slow process - especially when there are typically only four of us out every week.

    Sorry you missed Punchbowl - I think it probably would have been right up your alley (more elevation, tighter, twistier trail). Trillium is meant to be extremely gentle (5% average grade) for the beginners - but you can really cook on it. Did you find Runway and the G-Out? That's what the teenage boys love. We do need to update the signage to match the extra trail we've built since the signs were installed - soon, hopefully.

    For a solid ride, I'd start at the Dundas Golf course (by the train bridge up King) and ride in to Christie from there (also, that way you don't have to pay the gate fee - shh - don't tell anyone I said that). That way you get to appreciate the different character of trails from rough, rocky and steep to smooth and swoopy at Christie.

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    Any word on how bad the logging is this year? I group of us from my work will come to spring clean-days. We love the trails.
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    Quote Originally Posted by neuf View Post
    Any word on how bad the logging is this year? I group of us from my work will come to spring clean-days. We love the trails.
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    Hi everyone,

    I have an update for you about our trails at Christie Lake. Unfortunately, due to the tree harvest this year, many of our trails have sustained significant damage. As of this moment, all of the trails are closed until further notice due to the damage and debris. In addition, the cold and damp weather has left the trails extremely muddy and wet. Please do not ride the trails. We will be posting signs on the trails as soon as possible.

    The harvest crew has been turned away from the remaining sections and there will be no further harvesting on the south side of the lake where our trails are. I have been in contact with the HCA about the damage and we will be meeting to discuss what has happened and what will happen moving forward. The HCA has offered to assist with our clean-up efforts.

    We will continue to provide everyone with updates in the coming weeks and we will be reaching out to everyone for your support in the new year.

    If you have any questions, please do not hesitate to ask.

    Thank you.

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    Wow, they have been logging in this weather? I thought the whole point was to wait until the ground was frozen and snow on the ground.

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    Anyone been up to Christie? Fat bike or normal bike with studded tires?

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