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    2012 Preliminary O-Cup Schedule

    The OCA site has posted a tentative schedule for next year's O-Cup races. I thought some people on here may be interested.

    2012 Mountain Bike O-Cup XC Preliminary Schedule | Ontario Cycling Association


    Mansfield - April 29
    Woodnewton - May 13
    Albion - June 10
    Sudbury - July 8
    Buckwallow - August 12
    Duntroon - September 9


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    Sudbury?!?!?!!!

    Hmm, I wonder who's been building what up there... Would be a great excuse to visit my Mom!
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    The Walden Mountain Bike Club has been working hard to cut a sweet trail system at the Naughton Ski Club sight. This will be an exciting venue! It's certainly more on the "Buckwallowish" end of the o-cup course spectrum. Picture Buckwallow but with some decent lungbusting climbs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oshaden View Post
    The Walden Mountain Bike Club has been working hard to cut a sweet trail system at the Naughton Ski Club sight. This will be an exciting venue! It's certainly more on the "Buckwallowish" end of the o-cup course spectrum. Picture Buckwallow but with some decent lungbusting climbs.
    Oh, that's great news!

    I was fearing tromping through the muskeg at the Laurentian XC Ski Club (nasty Crank the Shield flashback)!
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    Quote Originally Posted by electrik View Post
    Hehe, thanks Nerdgirl! Team Monster? What I meant was invited by a coach from a team. I don't even know how the series works if you're reg an individual class or what the skinny is. If i get the urge i'm sure the info is on oca's site.

    I was having visions of people with "cleaning" up do drop and weasel.
    Most people actually race as independents. You can join an OCA affiliated club (e.g. HCC, Shorthills, Lapdogs) or a team if you want, but it is not at all necessary.

    Team Monster does have a certain ring to it....

    Don't count on finding info on the OCA site. I can't ever find anything there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by electrik View Post
    I was having visions of people with "cleaning" up do drop and weasel.
    They don't use either Weasel or Do Drop In trails for the O'Cups. Also the more 'technical' West d"Nile is only ridden by the elites and maybe the next level down.

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    Heard rumors of Sudbury. Will be a good opportunity to visit the folks as well. Kinda bummed no kelso, but understandable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by oshaden View Post
    The Walden Mountain Bike Club has been working hard to cut a sweet trail system at the Naughton Ski Club sight. This will be an exciting venue! It's certainly more on the "Buckwallowish" end of the o-cup course spectrum. Picture Buckwallow but with some decent lungbusting climbs.
    Is this the same place they had the Ontario Summer Games XC races in 2010? A club member said it makes for a interesting and challenging race track. I also hear they are attempting to host a Canada Cup for the years Hardwood hosts Nationals.

    Its a good hike for the weekend warriors down here in Niagara. Google says just under 6hrs. So I might be sitting this one out. We'll see what the summer brings. Kinda bummed that the race that moved was Kelso, the course closest to home.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedumbopinion View Post
    Is this the same place they had the Ontario Summer Games XC races in 2010? A club member said it makes for a interesting and challenging race track. I also hear they are attempting to host a Canada Cup for the years Hardwood hosts Nationals.

    Its a good hike for the weekend warriors down here in Niagara. Google says just under 6hrs. So I might be sitting this one out. We'll see what the summer brings. Kinda bummed that the race that moved was Kelso, the course closest to home.
    Yep, same place as the summer games but many new trails have been added since then.

    Being from the north, I can only imagine what it would be like if the o-cups were only 6 hours away! I supposed it's all relative. We are hoping people will make the trek north for this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedumbopinion View Post
    Its a good hike for the weekend warriors down here in Niagara. Google says just under 6hrs. So I might be sitting this one out. We'll see what the summer brings. Kinda bummed that the race that moved was Kelso, the course closest to home.
    I think Kelso may have been on of the oldest venues on the race schedule, and though I don't race I'm glad to see them try something new.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nerdgirl View Post

    Don't count on finding info on the OCA site. I can't ever find anything there.
    One governing body seems to think that a flashy new website for mounting biking only will solve all.

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    Anyone know why Kelso was dropped? I have some unfinished business with that race course. However, a new course in Sudbury will be pretty cool. Might have to make it a family trip for this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trekbikes View Post
    Anyone know why Kelso was dropped? I have some unfinished business with that race course. However, a new course in Sudbury will be pretty cool. Might have to make it a family trip for this one.
    When you add a venue, another has to go. I don't there is much more to it than that, though I could be wrong.

    I like that Chico is continuing to add / rotate venues. Variety is good.
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    Dropping a race in the "GTA" in favour of one out in the boonies has to be a slightly risky proposition but I am glad for the greater geographic diversity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by garage monster View Post
    Dropping a race in the "GTA" in favour of one out in the boonies has to be a slightly risky proposition but I am glad for the greater geographic diversity.
    Yet by going to Sudbury you allow those riders up there to actually try and race an OCup. Riders who would normally not bother because of the distances required to do so. As we are seeing in this very thread from the GTA riders.

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    I am totally in favour of giving everyone a fair chance to race but Chico's not a charity and every decision to drop or add a venue has to be balanced with due consideration to the financial feasibility of that move.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rkj__ View Post
    When you add a venue, another has to go. I don't there is much more to it than that, though I could be wrong.

    I like that Chico is continuing to add / rotate venues. Variety is good.
    Ok, another stupid question. Why can't Sudbury be an additional race this way Kelso stays on the race schedule? Is there some magic to the amount of O-Cup races for one season? I would think (maybe I am wrong) the series could handle one more race.

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    The other possibility is that Kelso CA itself really didn't want an O-Cup this year. There's a reason they were dropped from the CX calendar.
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    Quote Originally Posted by trekbikes View Post
    Ok, another stupid question. Why can't Sudbury be an additional race this way Kelso stays on the race schedule? Is there some magic to the amount of O-Cup races for one season? I would think (maybe I am wrong) the series could handle one more race.
    It's really simple. There is one race organization handling the OCup's in Ontario. So they are faced with 2 options,

    A. Keep Kelso while adding new venue in Sudbury. And increase the chances of producing a subb par event because of trying to do to much- Under Deliver

    B. Drop Kelso and produce a great event.

    Unless someone else stepped up and put in their hand to run a OCup at Kelso that is it. It's unfortunate situation but this is the reality that race directers face every year. And Ontario's MTB race scene has no where near the numbers needed to run 2 series all season like OAT does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by trekbikes View Post
    Ok, another stupid question. Why can't Sudbury be an additional race this way Kelso stays on the race schedule? Is there some magic to the amount of O-Cup races for one season? I would think (maybe I am wrong) the series could handle one more race.
    A little birdie has mentioned on a couple of occasions that the folks at Kelso or shall I say the Halton Region Conservation Authority are rather difficult to deal with. I believe it. Not to get OT, but it always irked me to pay an entry fee to the place when I am going there to race.

    Personally for me, that's the first one I would like to do without if we had to drop one. The trail system there is rather small, so the same pieces of the courses are limited to make much of a varying race loop. I live less than 20 minutes away and think I rode there once this season.

    Sudbury will be a trek, and another course with some Canadian Shield will be welcome. Perhaps out of reach for some, but closer for others that find coming to the GTA a trek.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduramil View Post
    Yet by going to Sudbury you allow those riders up there to actually try and race an OCup. Riders who would normally not bother because of the distances required to do so. As we are seeing in this very thread from the GTA riders.
    FYI, a standing mandate for O-Cup scheduling from the OCA side (which I'm guessing is still in place) is to have at least one event per year away from the GTA stronghold. There was Elliot Lake in the not-so-distant past, Searchmont coming to mind from years past, and maybe even Calabogie sandwiched in the years between those two, which was a bit closer but still sufficiently out of the beaten path to consider it as "spreading it around". I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple of others.

    Whether that mandate gets met each year may be dependent on availability of a suitable venue, but it's the thought that counts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Circlip View Post
    FYI, a standing mandate for O-Cup scheduling from the OCA side (which I'm guessing is still in place) is to have at least one event per year away from the GTA stronghold. There was Elliot Lake in the not-so-distant past, Searchmont coming to mind from years past, and maybe even Calabogie sandwiched in the years between those two, which was a bit closer but still sufficiently out of the beaten path to consider it as "spreading it around". I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple of others.

    Whether that mandate gets met each year may be dependent on availability of a suitable venue, but it's the thought that counts.
    They're doing the same thing on the road side too. That's why O-Cup #1 this year was way out in Calabogie. The major difference there being that road races are organized at the Club level and not by a "third" party.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Circlip View Post
    FYI, a standing mandate for O-Cup scheduling from the OCA side (which I'm guessing is still in place) is to have at least one event per year away from the GTA stronghold. There was Elliot Lake in the not-so-distant past, Searchmont coming to mind from years past, and maybe even Calabogie sandwiched in the years between those two, which was a bit closer but still sufficiently out of the beaten path to consider it as "spreading it around". I'm sure I'm forgetting a couple of others.

    Whether that mandate gets met each year may be dependent on availability of a suitable venue, but it's the thought that counts.
    When you think about it this is what happens when you have one series at this distance. It's easier to keep things closer to your home base then to truck it up to Calabogie or Sudbury every year. Especially if you are the only race directer and crew doing it.

    I know that OCA likes dealing with one RD- Chico. Makes life easier and less work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Enduramil View Post
    Yet by going to Sudbury you allow those riders up there to actually try and race an OCup. Riders who would normally not bother because of the distances required to do so. As we are seeing in this very thread from the GTA riders.
    Kinda gets me thinking, it's called the O-Cup series yet every race in recent years is within a couple hours of Toronto at most, with most venues being within an hour or so. If I lived in Ottawa, there's no O-cup race within 5 hours of me and it would actually be more convenient for me to race the Quebec Cup series. And if I lived up north or in Windsor, I'm SOL unless I can drive a good 5 hours or more.

    In Quebec they spread the venues out a lot more, it would be more of a pain to make it to every race but a lot more people will have at least a race or two that's not too far away.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aerius View Post
    Kinda gets me thinking, it's called the O-Cup series yet every race in recent years is within a couple hours of Toronto at most, with most venues being within an hour or so. If I lived in Ottawa, there's no O-cup race within 5 hours of me and it would actually be more convenient for me to race the Quebec Cup series.
    That's because that's already what many people in Ottawa and area do, and already have been doing for many years. Ottawa runs its own vibrant scene in just about all disciplines including road, CX, etc. and as you point out they often have Quebec events to supplement if they wish. No reason for the OCA to try to move in and cut someone else's grass, so to speak, with something that's already working well for the locals. There are some people from the Ottawa region who still choose to do just about the entire O-Cup series though, for their own reasons of preference.

    Quote Originally Posted by aerius View Post
    And if I lived up north or in Windsor, I'm SOL unless I can drive a good 5 hours or more.
    As I mentioned in my previous post, there's a mandate (to the best of my knowledge) to move at least one series event per year around to other locales. Realistically though, it only makes sense to plunk down most of the events near the greatest population base that is otherwise unserviced (Ottawa area being adequately serviced as described above). In any other regions, any local organizer can step up and run events any time they want. It's not like an O-Cup sanction is the only way to run an event. There's already tons of great events that aren't O-Cups.

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