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    Listen! 2009 Liberty! Bicycles Off-Road Squeezer

    This is the official 2009 Liberty! Bicycles Off-Road Squeezer thread.
    The event takes place on Sunday 27 September 2009, in St.Catharines, Ontario.
    Check the site for details...

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    I like the slogan/logo for this year. Hopefully it won't be wet like Lake to Lake, and I won't get stuck in the middle with you.

    Still going to have the Elite A wave?

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    Yay!

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    Quote Originally Posted by HSCoach2
    I like the slogan/logo for this year. Hopefully it won't be wet like Lake to Lake, and I won't get stuck in the middle with you.

    Still going to have the Elite A wave?
    Yes, we plan to have an A-level start again this year. It was such a huge success last year. It was so exciting; everyone loved it. We will also be separating the B, C and D waves to make them a little smaller. There are a few changes in the works.

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    SWEET!!!! Looking forward to this one - that's for sure.
    The new logo is pretty awesome too. Good stuff.
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    Divided Waves sounds GREAT

    I love the idea of the split waves.
    There were a few bottlenecks last year that should be remedied by this, like from the pond up behind the fire station (sorry don't know the new trail name yet).
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    5 person team competition? Cool.

    I wonder how they will decide the wave splits. I don't think it will matter, there will still be bottlenecks, its unavoidable. Personally I think that is a part of racing.

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    Looking forward to my second Squeezer!
    Does anyone know if organizers change the route much? I've heard that the direction changes from year to the next. If so, I would like to pre-ride the course that way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arctic Chupacabra
    Looking forward to my second Squeezer!
    Does anyone know if organizers change the route much? I've heard that the direction changes from year to the next. If so, I would like to pre-ride the course that way.
    The organizers may drop subtle hints, but the course is never revealed before the race.

    Personally, I don't expect any direction change. Things have been working pretty well the last couple years.
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    Online Registration Open

    We have (finally) opened Online Registration for Squeezer 2009. This year, waves are capped, and so is total participation. So, enter before your chosen wave is full. Information about the event is posted online. Good luck!

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    WICKED!! It's going to be a great race as always. I loved the elite wave last year and plan to try my hand in that again this year.

    Can't wait!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddakin
    I loved the elite wave last year and plan to try my hand in that again this year.
    I might give the elite wave a whirl as well. Who knows, I might just give you some competition there Dan
    I'm banking on being a weasel and using the road climbs to my advantage. And just to bother you, I won't be eating any hamburgers prior to the race.

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    B or C wave

    I am pondering on what group to register for.
    Last year Squeezer was my first ever mtb race; I was in wave C and finished in 1:40. But I felt i was held back by slow riders in front of me on several occasions. And i hammered up on all the hills and nobody passed me. So I consider myself a fast novice.
    This year I have been training on the road quite a bit and think that my fitness level should be better than last year; my personal goal is to do the course under 1:30.

    So my question to you, my fellow racers: what wave should i register for?
    (1) still go with C but hammer down out of the gate trying to beat most of the slower riders before the singletrack, or
    (2) start in B and let faster riders pass me and then go with my own pace?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arctic Chupacabra

    So my question to you, my fellow racers: what wave should i register for?
    (1) still go with C but hammer down out of the gate trying to beat most of the slower riders before the singletrack, or
    (2) start in B and let faster riders pass me and then go with my own pace?

    Depends if you can hammer down out of the gate or if you take a while to get warmed up / up to speed.

    If you take a while to warm up, then start in B, and just start out in the back. Then you don't bother anyone, right? And you can still chase.

    Also depends if you like chasing or being chased.... what helps you go fastest?

    Just my 2 cents....

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    Personally I'd rather be at the front of a wave. I think you should start 2nd row 'C'. That's where I started last year and as long as you stay with the front pack drafting you can go into the ST 10th to 20th. You don't have to hammer if you're just sitting on a wheel and you won't be gassed early. There will be a little bottleneck but it won't be to bad.

    Besides there is a lot of room to pass in the first half of the race. The only thing to worry about is the entrance into the first single track section.

    Or compromise and start in B2.

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    My second Squeezer this year as well. I am using the same strategy i used last year. Starting a wave slower than i think i should, that way i should not have anyone breathing down my neck too much. I will just try to start at the front of the wave (E!). I managed 1:56 last year. I too have been doing a lot of roadwork this year, so i hope to knock of 10-15 minutes and move into the top ten in teh Double Magnum class.

    I think a lot of the people pick a wave too fast for them. I think doing the opposite works best for me, I dont like feeling like i am holding people up, and would rather chase/pass then be passed constantly.
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    It's the day after the Fall 8 Hour so I'm not sure if I'm going to make it, would have loved to go in it but wish it was another weekend.

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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead! Squeezer Clothing Design + Start Groups/Waves

    RegattaSport is manufacturing a fantastic jersey for us, for this year's Squeezer. The mock-up is here. Check it out and let us know what you think. The T-Shirts will also feature our "Three-Sign" Wine-Route inspired graphic. Pre-production samples look cool.

    Also, a few participants are having a really tough time deciding which Group and Wave to select. We really recommend basing your choice on your ability -- and not overstating. There is no value in selecting a wave that is beyond your ability... In fact, it will even slow you down. Once you get bogged down and passed by people faster than you, there may be long delays before you can get back on your bike and recover your position. It is safer and faster to place yourself in a group of riders of a similar ability. Plus, you won't have to deal with the evil stares and questioning looks of those around you who will be wondering what you are doing in their Group (and Wave.) Do everyone a favour and be smart about your choice.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kgwisdek
    RegattaSport is manufacturing a fantastic jersey for us, for this year's Squeezer. The mock-up is here. Check it out and let us know what you think. The T-Shirts will also feature our "Three-Sign" Wine-Route inspired graphic. Pre-production samples look cool.

    Also, a few participants are having a really tough time deciding which Group and Wave to select. We really recommend basing your choice on your ability -- and not overstating. There is no value in selecting a wave that is beyond your ability... In fact, it will even slow you down. Once you get bogged down and passed by people faster than you, there may be long delays before you can get back on your bike and recover your position. It is safer and faster to place yourself in a group of riders of a similar ability. Plus, you won't have to deal with the evil stares and questioning looks of those around you who will be wondering what you are doing in their Group (and Wave.) Do everyone a favour and be smart about your choice.

    Last years jerseys were made by Sugoi and the sizing was a bit on the small side. I just purchased a Hot August Nights jersey one size larger (XXL!) and it is even smaller. Any way to try and help us with the sizing? Seems that they are all over the map.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kirbster1966
    Last years jerseys were made by Sugoi and the sizing was a bit on the small side. I just purchased a Hot August Nights jersey one size larger (XXL!) and it is even smaller. Any way to try and help us with the sizing? Seems that they are all over the map.
    Thanks!

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    Here is the sizing grid in inches:
    MEN'S
    SIZES S M L XL 2XL
    CHEST 40 42 44 46 48
    FRONT LENGTH FROM SHOULDER 24 25 26 27 28 (S to 2XL)
    SLEEVE LENGTH FROM CB NECK 17 1/2 18 18 1/2 19 19 1/2 (S to 2XL)

    WOMEN'S
    SIZES XS S M L XL
    CHEST 35 37 39 41 43
    FRONT LENGTH FROM SHOULDER 23 1/2 24 24 1/2 25 25 1/2 (XS to XL)
    SLEEVE LENGTH FROM CB NECK 14 14 1/2 15 15 1/2 16 (XS to XL)
    **SLEEVE LENGTH FROM CB NECK: MEASURE FROM TOP OF SPINE, ACROSS SHOULDER & DOWN TOP OF ARM.

    Now, my own comparison shows that these numbers are larger than those of Sugoi per size. That would indicate they are much roomier... But, the RS jerseys are raglan-sleeve cut, instead of set-sleeve, which makes a fit difference. In reality, I have found them only slightly roomier than Sugoi jerseys, with a slightly narrower sleeve, per size. So, to recap: Slightly roomier and longer in the torso, but with a slightly tighter sleeve than last year's Sugoi Squeezer Jersey... (This applies to the men's version...)
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    Regatta sport is a sponsor for our team and our Trail Hogs jersey are from them. I am 200lbs and wear an XL short and long sleeve and they both fit snug. Hope that help. By the way Kurt, Squeezer jersey look great...good job

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    I have the Sugoi jersey from last year and the Regatta Sport jersey from this year. They both fit the same in the torso and yes the RS jersey is tighter in the sleeves. I wear a large and have doughy fat boy arms and donít have a problem with the RS, in fact I like the tighter arms better then the elastic end of the Sugoi.

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    cross bike riding in the squeezer.

    Thought about using my cross bike in the squeezer, runing 700 x 42c tires, I've riddin the squeezer before on a mtb, thinking of singlespeeding it too
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    Quote Originally Posted by VernDog
    Thought about using my cross bike in the squeezer, runing 700 x 42c tires, I've riddin the squeezer before on a mtb, thinking of singlespeeding it too
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    Cool bike! Some of the Squeezer trails are prime for a cross bike, especially with 700x42s, and some decent trail-skill. But you have to know what you are doing, and hope for dry & fast trails....

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    Tall Jersey Option?

    Any chance of getting a "Tall" version of the jerseys with a few extra inches on the length? I would love to get one for this year, but there is no way they would be long enough. I am not sure if RS even offers the option, but there are probably a few tall racers who would like a longer jersey.


    Quote Originally Posted by kgwisdek
    Here is the sizing grid in inches:
    MEN'S
    SIZES S M L XL 2XL
    CHEST 40 42 44 46 48
    FRONT LENGTH FROM SHOULDER 24 25 26 27 28 (S to 2XL)
    SLEEVE LENGTH FROM CB NECK 17 1/2 18 18 1/2 19 19 1/2 (S to 2XL)

    WOMEN'S
    SIZES XS S M L XL
    CHEST 35 37 39 41 43
    FRONT LENGTH FROM SHOULDER 23 1/2 24 24 1/2 25 25 1/2 (XS to XL)
    SLEEVE LENGTH FROM CB NECK 14 14 1/2 15 15 1/2 16 (XS to XL)
    **SLEEVE LENGTH FROM CB NECK: MEASURE FROM TOP OF SPINE, ACROSS SHOULDER & DOWN TOP OF ARM.

    Now, my own comparison shows that these numbers are larger than those of Sugoi per size. That would indicate they are much roomier... But, the RS jerseys are raglan-sleeve cut, instead of set-sleeve, which makes a fit difference. In reality, I have found them only slightly roomier than Sugoi jerseys, with a slightly narrower sleeve, per size. So, to recap: Slightly roomier and longer in the torso, but with a slightly tighter sleeve than last year's Sugoi Squeezer Jersey... (This applies to the men's version...)
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    I know what you mean. I usually have to go one size larger to get the length. Maybe there will be a few available for you to try on at the event, so you might have a chance at that time. Then, again, they may sell out before the event.... Either way, there are no "Tall" versions available this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheDevilsCabanaBoy
    Any chance of getting a "Tall" version of the jerseys with a few extra inches on the length? I would love to get one for this year, but there is no way they would be long enough. I am not sure if RS even offers the option, but there are probably a few tall racers who would like a longer jersey.

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    L!B Off-Road Squeezer + OCA

    As of today, the Liberty! Bicycles Off-Road Squeezer is sanctioned by the Ontario Cycling Association. After many years and much discussion, The OCA has given the Squeezer an official nod, and has brought us on-board as a sanctioned event. An agreement was reached thanks to the input of dedicated and concerned cyclists, as well as the work and negotiation of Jim Crosscombe, Executive Director of the OCA, and the management of Liberty! Bicycles. We look forward to working with the OCA and making the Squeezer an even better event for the cycling community now and in the years to come. This agreement will make it possible for OCA affiliated cyclists to take part in the event without breaching associated agreements; And, non-OCA cyclists will not have to purchase race-licenses in order to participate. So, everyone wins, so to speak.
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    Squeezer Notices:

    Wave Status: B1 FULL. New registrants requesting this Wave will be placed in the next available wave-option. Remember, Groups and Waves are being capped this year to increase safety, eliminate congestion, maximize speed and fun, and improve the event for participants.

    Clothing Info: 2XL Jerseys SOLD OUT. Other sizes are still available. If you would like a Jersey or T-Shirt as a souvenir of this year's event, don't wait until your size is gone. We are only producing a limited number of these cool items.




    Since B1 is full, I through myself in the A wave. I spoke to my local Giant dealer, and my bike should be ready for the race.
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    The Squeezer is next weekend. Did you sign up yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedumbopinion
    The Squeezer is next weekend. Did you sign up yet?
    Niagara Wine festival kicks off tonight.
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    Price Increase

    Squeezer Entry Fees go up Saturday at 5:00pm.
    There is no day-of-event registration available.
    Size Small T-shirts SOLD OUT
    Womens-Med, Mens-2XL Jerseys SOLD OUT
    B1 100% Full
    C1 95% Full

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    Trail condition

    Pre-ridden the course on Saturday. Bone dry! Even too dry - lost traction and crashed in one spot (Brock U section) because of loose soil on the curve.
    Now Weather Network is calling for rain on Sunday. For once I wish they were wrong. Don't need the repeat of L2L experience.
    But overall the trails are in awesome condition! Koodos to good people maintaining them!
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    Is anyone going to brave the course on a cross bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RossoCorsa
    Is anyone going to brave the course on a cross bike?
    People will I'm sure. I just think that the back end has such a stretch of singletrack that makes it not worth it or not the best bike anyway.

    During some group prerides people have had problems with flats in the rocky areas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedumbopinion
    During some group prerides people have had problems with flats in the rocky areas.
    So does anyone have pressure recommendations for someone considering the cross bike route?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RossoCorsa
    So does anyone have pressure recommendations for someone considering the cross bike route?
    I raced the Squeezer on my cross bike last year. There are some sections where being on a cross bike is just plain awesome - i.e. the two biggest climbs on the course. But, of course, there are sections where it is a disadvantage - i.e. the rougher singletrack after the reservoir.

    That said, when racing a "cyclocross" bike in a "mountain bike race" one of your biggest concerns is flats. You WILL hit a few rocks or roots harder than you intend to. Riding trails on your cross bike is one thing, but trying to race increases the risk.

    I strongly advise that you run really high pressure. I think I went with nearly 70psi - and I only weigh 155 lbs. My hands hated me for it, but I got through it without hearing that psshhhhhh sound.

    I concluded that while riding the cross bike was a good experience, I probably would not do it a second time.
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    Thanks for the response. If it's not too muddy I'll be using tubulars. Would that lower the recommendation by much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RossoCorsa
    Thanks for the response. If it's not too muddy I'll be using tubulars. Would that lower the recommendation by much?
    Tubulars do have a lower tendency to pinch flat, but obviously, things can still go wrong if you crash your rim into rocks due to insufficient pressure.

    I've never used tubulars, so I can't throw any numbers at you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by superlightracer
    Woo! All signed up. Definitely ready to have some pain served my way.
    The front of the field looks pretty insane.

    Zandstra, Morka, Battys, Alp, and more!
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    Anyone ridden these trails in wet conditions? I remember last year thinking some of the singletrack would be down right nasty/slippery if it got a bit damp. It looked like hard packed clay. A bit of water on top would be like riding on wet ice. Any recommendations? The forcast is looking liek crap at the moment.
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    Quote Originally Posted by kirbster1966
    Anyone ridden these trails in wet conditions? I remember last year thinking some of the singletrack would be down right nasty/slippery if it got a bit damp. It looked like hard packed clay. A bit of water on top would be like riding on wet ice. Any recommendations? The forcast is looking liek crap at the moment.
    I ridden these trails many, many times. Sometimes wet and sometimes dry. Sticking with Squeezer tradition, they will be wet on race day and some areas will be very tough to ride. The trails become a slick clay/mud that sticks to your wheels and doesn't like to come off.

    The good news is they are super-dry right now and will absorb a portion of the water very well. The bad news is 10-15mm Saturday with another 5 on race day. Per usual, survival of the fittest. Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedumbopinion
    I ridden these trails many, many times. Sometimes wet and sometimes dry. Sticking with Squeezer tradition, they will be wet on race day and some areas will be very tough to ride. The trails become a slick clay/mud that sticks to your wheels and doesn't like to come off.

    The good news is they are super-dry right now and will absorb a portion of the water very well. The bad news is 10-15mm Saturday with another 5 on race day. Per usual, survival of the fittest. Good luck.

    Tire recommendations?
    I only have two choices. This close to race day i won't likely be able to do anything else.

    Hutchinson Scorpions front and back- rode these last year but it was dry.
    Specialized Roll-X front/ Fasttrack rear. Figured if it was dry these would be good, but many small knobs may clog up if it is that sticky.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RossoCorsa
    Thanks for the response. If it's not too muddy I'll be using tubulars. Would that lower the recommendation by much?
    40 psi and hope for nothing sharp? You won't pinch flat at that pressure on tubs, if you're a good rider, but maybe add an ounce of stans to each before, if these are not your best race tires. People have been known to do just that for the Iron Cross, admittedly a tougher race despite higher pavement/gravel road content, and are usually ok.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rkj__
    The front of the field looks pretty insane.

    Zandstra, Morka, Battys, Alp, and more!
    Is there a pre-reg list? Could you link it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by superlightracer
    Is there a pre-reg list? Could you link it?
    No, there is no pre-reg list posted, though it would be cool if there was.

    I got the info from one of the Liberty! guys.
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    A reminder that we still are looking for volunteers.... if you have a significant other, friend, parent, sibling, etc. who is not racing, ask them to sign up as a volunteer! There are still many great marshal locations left. Volunteers will be entered for a chance at the draw prizes, get food tokens and more... who knows, your sister, mom, or boyfriend could win you some xtr cranks.. it has happened! We need reliable responsible people. If you in high school it counts towards your volunteer hours! It's a great time all around!

    Check out http://www.libertybicycles.com/squeezer/volunteer.html

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    Did the race a few yrs ago and had a great time.

    50$ though?

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    It used to be $40 but I guess you waited to long to sign up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thedumbopinion
    It used to be $40 but I guess you waited to long to sign up.
    It used to be $30, t-shirt and meal included.

    And a loaf of bread used to be $1.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rkj__
    It used to be $30, t-shirt and meal included.

    And a loaf of bread used to be $1.
    I did miss the cut-off, but just commenting on the cost was all. No offense meant towards the Liberty cats, but 50$is a bit steep.

    Who knows, maybe it's just me.

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    $50 with no Tshirt is steep for 1:15 minutes when you can do an 8 hour (epic 8) for $80 or a 9 hour (mountainview) for $45 and at both you score a Tshirt!

    Best bang for the bucks is still Crank the shield!

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    I always look at it as $/km. Anything around $1/km is good value. Even at pre-reg prices your at $1.25/km, on the steep side compared to other races. And yes every other race at that price you get your standard free T.

    The good news is you can get a chicken fajita for 2 meal coins and bribe the guy with your 3rd to get a giant scoop of brown rice and beans. Best free post race meal of the year.

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    Pricing

    Admittedly, $40, now $50 (late), might seem steep....
    But, the reality is, that is what it costs to put on an event of this calibre, in an urban, Downtown environment, with full police, and volunteer support. What other local event needs over 10 paid-duty officers? 120 volunteers, each one needing food, clothing, etc? How many events give away cash? We still offer great value, excellent food and drink, a fantastic venue, and an excellent event that doesn't cheese-out on the details. Nothing is free. We pay for everything, and our costs have and will continue to increase. The days of running events on shoe-string budgets are over. It just doesn't make economic sense. So, I feel for those who might have a tough time "paying to play" in our current economic environment; I really do understand, especially this year. But if you compare what we do at the Squeezer, you will realize the inherent value found in the entry fee.

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    KG...I'm not slagging on you guys, really. It is the current economic climate, and you guys do have a fair amount of overhead given the race locale. I honestly did have an excellent time a few yrs back and it was well-organized.

    I'm just venting. A recent ride here ran 75$ (!)..it's more of a fundraising/charity ride than race, but was a significant price increase. Costs are rising for sure. For me, I have the border crossing as an additional cost as well.

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    Liberty and the Squeezer Rock

    Liberty runs the 8 x 12 series for $40 for 8 events. That's $5 per event for roughly a 15km race or $0.33 cents per km. A definite good value. I'm sure if they could put the squeezer on for less money then I'm sure they would. I definitely like the fact that you can opt out of the t-shirt to save money.

    I break down costs for a living and it used to drive me crazy when I let that cross into my personal life. A $2000 bike would have to be ridden 200 times for it to cost less than $10 a ride, is it worth it. When you start doing it with clothes, shoes, cars, food and movies (why does an 89 minute romantic comedy cost the same to see as a 3 1/2 hour epic) you can see how it might start to drive you crazy.

    Now I look at payng for the experience instead of puttng a value on everything and I'm much happier for it. If $50 is make it or break it for your personal finances then maybe don't race. But if the $50 is going to be frittered away at the drivethrough, on some new socks or a tank of gas then I would instead choose to spend a beautiful Autumn afternoon with 1100 of my craziest friends doing a great race and then spending time with my family at the great post race meal and listening to some bands and quite possibly winning some XTR cranks or even just a water bottle as a draw prize and then when my co-workers ask me what I did on Sunday, I get to tell them about a great race on some awesome trails. When you look at it that way $50 seems like a bargain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ganu
    Liberty runs the 8 x 12 series for $40 for 8 events. That's $5 per event for roughly a 15km race or $0.33 cents per km. A definite good value. I'm sure if they could put the squeezer on for less money then I'm sure they would. I definitely like the fact that you can opt out of the t-shirt to save money.

    I break down costs for a living and it used to drive me crazy when I let that cross into my personal life. A $2000 bike would have to be ridden 200 times for it to cost less than $10 a ride, is it worth it. When you start doing it with clothes, shoes, cars, food and movies (why does an 89 minute romantic comedy cost the same to see as a 3 1/2 hour epic) you can see how it might start to drive you crazy.

    Now I look at payng for the experience instead of puttng a value on everything and I'm much happier for it. If $50 is make it or break it for your personal finances then maybe don't race. But if the $50 is going to be frittered away at the drivethrough, on some new socks or a tank of gas then I would instead choose to spend a beautiful Autumn afternoon with 1100 of my craziest friends doing a great race and then spending time with my family at the great post race meal and listening to some bands and quite possibly winning some XTR cranks or even just a water bottle as a draw prize and then when my co-workers ask me what I did on Sunday, I get to tell them about a great race on some awesome trails. When you look at it that way $50 seems like a bargain.
    Cycling costs me ~$10-15/h.

    Not including gas money, and increased food consumption.
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    It's tough to compare US race prices to Canadian race prices - mainly because of how cheap it is to get the police involved. They often are free in the US. In Canada, the police TELL YOU how many cops you need and you MUST pay them overtime or you're not getting a permit to race. It's the reason why road races cost so much these days too.

    Gotta say, I'd pay $100 to race the Squeezer. It's absolutely my favourite race of the year. Any event that starts on a downtown street with people lining the roads and finishes on another downtown street with people lining the finishing hill is totally worth it.
    Kurt and the boys work incredibly hard on this race for months and they do an amazing job. I raced this event when I was 25 pounds overweight and riding a 40-pound crappy freeride bike and had a good time. I'm still having a great time eight years later.

    Kudos gentlemen! See you Sunday.
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    Clockwise or Counter Clockwise?
    I find it mildly amusing that people ask that every year.
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    Clockwise or counter clockwise?

    If you wanna go fast you have to pedal in a clockwise direction. Pedaling counter clockwise doesn't make you go at all!

    But really, I would say it is going the same direction as the last few years.

    The Suzanne trail is the best finishing side of the 12 mile creek. And it would create even bigger bottle necks if it were the start of the race.
    The regular starting side of the 12 mile creek is the best side to start on. It's nice and wide and it gives the most room for a large volume of riders at one time.

    If the start went up the crushed gravel and crossed the bridge at Glendale, It would create opposing traffic for the start of the A wave at 2:00, and the finishers of the novice wave at 11:42am.

    Therefore I would say counter clockwise for sure.

    It's gonna be awesome!

    I'm gonna enjoy heckling you all on the hills! But then you'll all get to see me bring in the tail of the A wave and heckle me back. Except for all the super fast riders who I'll be sure to try and draft off of. Just listen for my little cowbell!

    See Y'all on Sunday!

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    DAMN! McGyver THAT'S what I've been doing wrong all these years. Clockwise. Son of a gun. Who knew

    You're right though, the flow of the past few years makes the most sense.

    Good luck everyone! See you on the start line.
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    Quote Originally Posted by McGyver29er
    If you wanna go fast you have to pedal in a clockwise direction. Pedaling counter clockwise doesn't make you go at all!

    Maybe he's riding a fixie?

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    Quote Originally Posted by McGyver29er
    If you wanna go fast you have to pedal in a clockwise direction. Pedaling counter clockwise doesn't make you go at all!
    You only use your right pedal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ganu
    Now I look at payng for the experience instead of puttng a value on everything and I'm much happier for it. If $50 is make it or break it for your personal finances then maybe don't race. But if the $50 is going to be frittered away at the drivethrough, on some new socks or a tank of gas then I would instead choose to spend a beautiful Autumn afternoon with 1100 of my craziest friends doing a great race and then spending time with my family at the great post race meal and listening to some bands and quite possibly winning some XTR cranks or even just a water bottle as a draw prize and then when my co-workers ask me what I did on Sunday, I get to tell them about a great race on some awesome trails. When you look at it that way $50 seems like a bargain.
    I hear you. I've been racing for many years now, so I'm very familiar with the idea of not putting a price on one's passion. Believe me, we used to race every weekend of the season when the opportunity was there in the not so distant past.

    I just haven't been into racing as much this season for whatever reason(s), one of them being the frustration with the rain and mud (think CHICO's Summer Solstice if you're familiar). As a result I've been looking at costs as a factor, which really never was a concern in the past. A practical view certainly takes the fun out of it, but so be it. Maybe next year will bring a renewed passion!

    No hard feeling meant...I know it's an excellent event and the Liberty folks put in tons of effort.

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    Regarding the cost of the Squeezer

    I would rather race the Squeezer, enjoy the police escort, the huge crowds, the volunteer support and get those wine/food tokens at the end, plus the opportunity to win fantastic draw prizes than

    - play a round of golf on a weekday at a mediocre course
    - take my family to a movie and have one large popcorn to share
    - go skiing or snowboarding at the local hill with a vertical of, well, about the same we'll climb three times on Sunday
    - buy a good pair of bike gloves
    - fill the tank of my least favourite vehicle (although it will get me to the race)

    As to how it compares to other bike races, well, on the road I'm pretty sure we lost Mosport because too many racers forgot about the cost of renting a world-class Motorsport track, and thought there should be more prize money. Every race has different expenses and challenges. DDakin said, "I'd pay $100 to race the Squeezer". I also have to factor in gas money from Oshawa, and my wife's entry fee, but I don't really disagree.

    This is a pet peeve of mine for those who may recall this old rant...

    a rant about the cost of mountain biking

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    I think that we all will make our own decisions about how we spend our money. There are some events that I cannot justify spending my money on, but that is a decision that I have made. Others may not nessesarily agree with my desicion.
    I will say that I have done the Squeezer six years and counting. I personally think it is money well spent. The location, the trails, the organizers, the draw prizes (although I have never won anything), the volunteers, the constant improvements, the food, the music etc...
    These are some of the reasons that I will continue to do this race. This is a great race so give it a try. I think it is worth it.

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    Funny you mention Mosport HSCoach. Just like the Squeezer, THAT is a road race I would spend any amount of money for. I used to go there all the time to watching auto racing and so bike racing on the track was a thrill. It's amazing riding on a closed circuit like that - super wide, extremely fast, hilly enough to make it challenging etc. etc. etc, - and yet the fickle racers of Ontario decided it wasn't good enough for them to drive out of their way to get to I guess.
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    I will be racing the Squeezer on a borrowed bike.
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    Ryan...is there anything we can do to help? I can build a full bike in my workshop. If you get me the parts I'll help you build it up Saturday!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddakin
    Ryan...is there anything we can do to help? I can build a full bike in my workshop. If you get me the parts I'll help you build it up Saturday!!!
    Thanks for the offer Dan, but I was told that the replacement frame needs to be built by my authorized dealer.

    If it were up to me, I would have torn down the frame, brought it in for verification, of failure, picked up new frame, and build it up myself.

    But, apparently, it's not up to me.

    I'll be racing my Dad's Sugar. It will be the second time this has happened actually. It's a decent bike, and it should be ok. If I put in a less than stellar performance, I'll have an excuse too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RossoCorsa
    So does anyone have pressure recommendations for someone considering the cross bike route?

    How about any tire pressure recommendations for a plain old regular run-of-the-mill mountain bike?

    As far as tire selection, I have a front one and a back one. Those are my choices, the ones that came on my entry-level Hardrock. (kinda knobby, 2.2") I understand the importance of appropriate tire pressure, (I learned that lesson at Hilton Falls), but the actual numbers elude me.
    I'm looking at the forecast for Saturday and remember discovering at Solstice that slick mud is pretty tricky and generally not my cup of tea. I'm hoping that someone can help me out with pressure suggestions so maybe I can get a little grip when things look to slip.
    I love riding my bike!

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    Tire pressure

    Personally I like running about 37lbs in my tires. That seems to suit me well for the trails around here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetfilly7
    How about any tire pressure recommendations for a plain old regular run-of-the-mill mountain bike?

    As far as tire selection, I have a front one and a back one. Those are my choices, the ones that came on my entry-level Hardrock. (kinda knobby, 2.2") I understand the importance of appropriate tire pressure, (I learned that lesson at Hilton Falls), but the actual numbers elude me.
    I'm looking at the forecast for Saturday and remember discovering at Solstice that slick mud is pretty tricky and generally not my cup of tea. I'm hoping that someone can help me out with pressure suggestions so maybe I can get a little grip when things look to slip.
    First of all, be very cautious of relying on the gauges found on bike pumps. Some of them can be wildly inaccurate.

    Personally, at 155lbs I normally go by feel more than numbers, but I'd say I usually stick around 30-35psi on my full suspension bike with 2.0-2.1" tires. This is low enough to get good traction, but could leave you with a pinch flat if you do something really stupid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by squeezer.com
    Cyclists are coming from points all over the world, including Australia, The Netherlands, even China. Of course there are lots of participants from across Ontario, Canada and the USA. We are very excited about it!
    Wow, what a diverse crowd!
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    You guys are making me jealous with the squeezer talk.....
    Disappointed that I won't be riding it this year....
    But, I must say - the guys at Lib do an AWESOME job, and I'm stoked even to come watch for a bunch.
    Cheers

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    Last I talked to you was the 24hr and you were stoked to be heading out to Colorado. Is that what happened there?

    Sorry to see it, get well soon.

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    Nope. Colorado was EPIC. Made it out to Moab for a few days and also stopped by Fruita to ride. No injuries on that trip - thankfully.
    I did this a week and a bit ago - on the 14th - riding the commuter around town. Fluke accident; chain jumped off the cog when putting down power and over the bars I went.
    But, my goal is to be back on the bike by the 3rd of October..... I think it's feasible.

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    Should I bring my full suspension or hardtail for this race? How rough are the trails?

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    You should use your hardtail. The are a few rooty sections but nothing to be concerned about. The two big climbs are also on the road.

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    Thanks guys.
    So how's the weather looking in St. Catharines?

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    Quote Originally Posted by JD73
    Thanks guys.
    So how's the weather looking in St. Catharines?
    light rain
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    Quote Originally Posted by HSCoach2
    I would rather race the Squeezer, enjoy the police escort, the huge crowds, the volunteer support and get those wine/food tokens at the end, plus the opportunity to win fantastic draw prizes than

    - play a round of golf on a weekday at a mediocre course
    - take my family to a movie and have one large popcorn to share
    - go skiing or snowboarding at the local hill with a vertical of, well, about the same we'll climb three times on Sunday
    - buy a good pair of bike gloves
    - fill the tank of my least favourite vehicle (although it will get me to the race)

    As to how it compares to other bike races, well, on the road I'm pretty sure we lost Mosport because too many racers forgot about the cost of renting a world-class Motorsport track, and thought there should be more prize money. Every race has different expenses and challenges. DDakin said, "I'd pay $100 to race the Squeezer". I also have to factor in gas money from Oshawa, and my wife's entry fee, but I don't really disagree.

    This is a pet peeve of mine for those who may recall this old rant...

    a rant about the cost of mountain biking

    It always amazes me how people ***** about the cost's yet won't look at way's to cut cost's.

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    Game-Day!

    Good luck to everyone today!
    6:30am Quick-update:
    Course conditions are a little sloppy, but not bad under the circumstances.
    ALL BRIDGES ARE VERY SLIPPERY. Extreme Caution needed when crossing any of them.
    Rain appears to be holding off at the moment.
    Remember to bring your smiles and sportsmanship to the starting line! ;-)
    See you there!
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    Had lots o fun, decide on the mtb instead of the cross bike, cross bike geared up to high for the slippery conditions, plus after racing both cross races on saturday a little bit of suspension for my rather tired arms and hands. Overall great event, great atmosphere, got the shake hands with the Devil and sprint up the finsh hill with the Caveman.

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    WooHoo! The Liberty Bikes Squeezer Rocked!

    Woo Hoo that was fun!

    I was havin' so much fun heckling all the early finishers.
    Cave Man Power was super fun. I have a sore throat from yelling. I new there would be a whole whack of Y'All who need a little more encouragement to get up the last climb.
    Great job to all the SHCC members and their great rides in such sloppy conditions.

    Congrats on the fellow podium finishers. Al Davis and the Trail Hogs A Team (Tom, Jon, Brad, JC, Steve)

    I went in to the race knowing I had a chance to podium.
    But when I was warming up I thought it was gonna be a long day of hiking up all the big climbs. Since I found a magic gear ratio of 34X13. Man was it ever hard. Like riding it all in 18th gear. But the adrenaline of the race and encouragement from Dan Dakin and Tom Freure helped me mash up all 3 big road climbs. I didn't think I could do it. I had to psyche myself up the hills by yelling and screaming. It worked really well.

    The fastest SS from the B wave was 1:34:xx. So knowing that was a good goal to pace me along. I was dueling back and forth with Tom Freure riding in his second race of the day, and riding on his single speed. But Tom faltered and started cramping on the big climb up Decew Hill. He did an awesome job though. Props to him for pushing as far as he did.

    The trails were in awesome shape so it was a lot easier to just ride and push myself, without having to concentrate so much on staying upright. One of the benefits of riding in the A wave.

    I am glad that I chose to race the 2009 Liberty Bikes Squeezer. The race was organized top notch and it was so much fun! Thanks to the L!B Gang and all the volunteers for all their hard work.

    The cherry on top of a great day was the prize draw.
    WOOHOO!
    I am so stoked that I won an awesome Single Speed CX bike.
    It couldn't have worked out any better for me. What a SWEET ride.
    I am still laughing every time I think of the draw.

    Thanks to all who made it such a great day in Niagara.

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    OK, Race report time

    Where to start? Well, I was really excited about this race. It's the Squeezer. It's a race. It's a party. It's a tradition. Eight years and counting for me.

    There was much talk about weather leading up to the race. As it turned out, we got a good helping of rain Saturday, with much of it coming in the evening. So, even though things were really dry just days before, the course simply did not have enough time to dry out for those racing at 11:00.

    Regardless, hundreds of cyclist persevered, and made it to the finish. However, for many, the race was not without incident. Many took spills, due to slippery trails and icy bridges. The leaders of the B wave came in a couple minutes later than I was expecting them, so that along with the mud on their bikes, showed what the course was like. I got to hear many riders share their tales post race. I love the social aspect of the Squeezer. Being from Niagara, I have gotten to know many of the fine people who participate in this event.

    So, the good news for me is that, this year, I was starting in the Elite A wave, which started at 2:00. I got to line up with top Canadian cyclists like Derek Zandstra, Adam Morka, Stu Alp, Mark Batty, and Emily Batty, just to name a few. Though the company was great, the best part was, that a few hundred riders, and a few hours lead to a dramatic improvement in course conditions.

    The start of the race was fast, but reasonable. Most of the group stayed together for a couple km. The top guns took a few minutes before they decided that they would put the hammer down. But when that time came, they did their thing, and I did mine. Since I was in good company, I was motivated, and pushing myself to the max, riding at 90-100%. I was worried I might destroy myself a little too early, but I was not in the mood for slowing down.

    Some of the early singletrack was still a little slippery, so I took it fairly cautiously, which was definitely a smart idea, considering the fact that I was riding on my Dad's bike. The suspension, brakes, and geometry are all a little different that what I was used to. Overall though, the bike worked fine, and allowed me to stay focused on racing.

    For all of the road and open sections, I was able to work together with other riders, and take turns pushing the wind, and keeping the pace high. The company changed a little throughout the race, but I was not alone when it mattered most. After the first few km, I did very little passing, but did not get passed too much either. I mostly held my position on the climbs, and got through them. They are not my specialty, so I motivated myself by trying to stay with the riders I had in my sight.

    I was feeling pretty good today, and kept putting decent power to the pedals. I was in the big ring in this race more than I have ever been while riding these trails. They are so fast and fun. I was having a good time.

    My favourite part of the course is the downhill that spits you out on Hydro Hill. The marshal at the top cautioned "slippery and technical" to which I replied "woohoo!" Then, I proceeded to pull away from the rider who I had been riding with for several km. I must have put some pretty good time on him on the downhill, because by the time I had a chance to look back, I never did see him again.

    I proceeded to ride solo to the finish. Often checking behind, seeing only empty trail behind me, as well as in front of me. Of course though, I knew I had to keep hammering, because I could not ignore the riders who put in great times at 11:00. So, I gave it all I had, right to the end. The final climb/sprint was amazing. The crowd was so loud, littered with cowbells, and people cheering my name. It was almost overwhelming. I loved it.

    On the results front, I put in my best finishing position ever. 29th/766. I crossed the line with a time of 1:22:27. Compare that to the winning time of 1:08:42, put in by Derek Zandstra. I'm 100% happy with my result. Being in the A wave certainly payed off.

    After the race, I quickly changed, got a drink, and went to the awards. The Liberty! crew did a great job as always, quickly getting through all the podiums, and ~40 draw prizes, highlighted by McGyver29er (SS winner) who took home the Kona Jake SS cross bike.

    Next, the traditional stop in the park, to pick up an amazing post race meal, which for me consisted of Gyros and Apple Crumble. Yumm.

    So, once again, thanks to Kurt and his crew for putting on another great Squeezer. I had a great time.
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    I hate the mud but I paid my money so I had to ride!.

    I stuck with last years strategy which was start in a very late wave so I could stay near the front of it and not have too many faster riders breathing down my neck in the slippy parts.

    Got a front row starting spot. My plan was to hammer the road sections and just try not to fall down in the single track. Got a good start and was about 4th going into the first corner. Held onto about 8th (in my wave- don't get excited - E wave!) by the time we started getting into the sloppy stuff I was about 15th or so.
    Got into the first single track without too much traffic in front of me. Steep downhill onto a wooden bridge....It was like riding on wet ice!. Lost it and went down hard on my left shoulder. Shook it off and only lost about 5 spots at the most. From that point on I was in survival mode. I knew these trails were going to be slick!
    Kept her upright through the rest of the course but dismounted a few times due to traffic jams on the hills. I cleaned almost all of the climbs when I wasn't held up by walkers. I did dismount on a few of the really sketchy downhills. Some of them were very rocky with a nice skim coat of slimy clay mud. I was determined not to walk "THE WALL" a very steep paved road climb. Unfortunately, I only made it about 3/4 up and had to walk. Steeper than I remember. I think that pissed me off more than the fall, as I figured with all my riding this year I would make it.
    Oh well. Shook it off and started charging through the field in the vineyards at the top of the climb. At this point I started catching the D wave and was passing a lot of people. Held up a few more times in the single track, but persevered. Pushed hard out of the last single track up the pedestrian bridge over the 406 with about 1.5K to go. At this point, I was passing guys from the C wave. It was at this point also, I realized I forgot to put my timing chip on my ankle. It was back at the car! I asked a few guys around me to vouch for me at the finish so they knew I was really out there. Here comes the final climb into the finish straight. Passed 4 or 5 riders up the hill (yes I passed uphill!). Saw the Devil cheering me on. The sound of cowbells was ringing in my ears...or was that me losing consciousness due to too high max heart rate. Sprint for the line......FINISH!!!!!!! The crowd went wild!

    No problem at the finish as they had people reading off the numbers. My time was going to count! Thank God!

    Final result......19 minutes slower than last year.........but...............

    484th overall (1000 registered) 18th in Double Magnum (Clydesdale) class.

    Bettering last years results of 584th overall and 20th in class. Not what I wanted, but a solid improvement considering the conditions.

    After my race, I went back to help Christine who was marshalling all alone at the bottom of the pedestrian bridge. It was a great spot to watch the Elite Wave race which started at 2. The overall winner was only 3 minutes slower than last years winner!
    Apparently the course dried up significantly after the first 800 people went through. The elites didn't even look dirty! Emily Batty won the women's, she was also only 3 minutes off her time from last year. Wow! Unbelievable.

    One of my volunteers scored some loot. She won a Jersey, Sunglasses and some Lube. She gave me the lube!

    The giveaways at this event are awesome. XTR components, tires, lights pumps, tools etc. They bundle the prizes too, so each prize is easily worth over 125 bux. There was even a bike! (Congrats McGyver29er!!)


    All in all I had a great time and got some awesome food in the wine festival area after the awards. MMMMM the Keg!

    Looking forward to next year already. I think I will alter my strategy next year and start in the middle of D wave!
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    photo dump....

    ...i had a great time at this race...full report will be posted to blog shortly...photo dump already posted on blog....


    <a href="http://trevorlikesbikes.blogspot.com/"><img style="MARGIN: 0px 10px 10px 0px; WIDTH: 400px; FLOAT: left; HEIGHT: 267px; CURSOR: hand" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5386499580614559362" border="0" alt="" src="http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_aWmQy-6Yy0s/SsCw1GVSRoI/AAAAAAAAAIY/6pVugw1gJuI/s400/IMG_0791.JPG" /></a>
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    Results are posted on Sportstats.ca
    http://www.sportstats.ca/display-res...racecode=44525

    This was my 2nd year in this race. The course was muddy and slick but not as bad as the L2L this past july. I went down in the first 5 km on some loose gravel not bad just a little road rash on my forearm and hip. Got up fast and lost only 1 spot there which is amazing for being 6'5" LOL. The first half of the course was muddier than the last half generally.

    Had to run up quite a few climbs along with everyone else. I had to tell someone to run as it was faster LOL. Long legs come in handy for that. I love my mud spikes on my shoes too.

    Was very pleased with my result Up 200 positions from last year. in 2008 was 612 avg spd 16.4 and 2009 placed 408 yet with slower average pace 13.8 which goes to show most where a bit off the pace due to the conditions.

    Overall i really enjoyed this race and am looking to start in group B next year and improve even more.

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    great race this year little muddy but it made it fun. My time was about 40 seconds slower then last year, which is quite an improvement since you couldn't hammer down on most of the single track beause of how slick it was. It was a good choice to go w/ the nevegals front and back they kept me up when most of the guys in the frotn of B2 were slipping right infront of me. I was with the leaders of B2 and we caught up to the straglers of B1 about 10 mins in, most were pretty good about it and let us by but there were a couple who didn't move so it made passing quite interesting. Some people just need to start in the right category i guess, but what can you do, all in all it was a great race. Although I was really surprised that they brought the elites into the overall standings for the podiums. Bumped a couple people out and they weren't too happy would like to see them in their own category next year like they were last year

    Looking forward to next years hopefully it will be dry and I can improve my time drastically through the single track.

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    As usual The Squeezer was super-fun. I look at this race as more of a party then a race. Relaxed atmosphere, Ontario MTB celebrities and a park full of wine and food make it the best event of the season, hands down.

    In the morning I pre-rode half the course and I knew what to expect in the mud when everyone was bunched together. I started pretty deep in B1 but by the time we got to the singletrack I was able to be with the lead group sitting maybe 15th or so. By the time we reached the first road climb there we gaps in front and behind of a 2 wheel express rider, and myself.

    Everything was great until the first trip into Shorthills. Down the opening descent and the rider in front went down so to preven from going over the bars I had to do a baseball type slide and ended up going right into a thorn bush. Hogsback was super slick, DeCal and Kinsie were the only ones to ride it. I managed to climb the second half but crashed on the backside and couldn’t stop from sliding down on my ass. Eventually grabbed a tree and ran down.

    Up the big side of Decew and my legs were spent. I though my race was over and people would just start passing me but only one did. I guess everyone was hurting too. I got to the feedzone, reached for my bottle and realized my entire cage was broken off. I'm so glad they were handing out full bottles.

    The long stretch of single track home, on a course I knew, had me smiling and pumped up big time. From the feedzone on I ran big ring and crossed the line 16th. After elites I ended up 59th a heck of an improvement from last years 235th.

    Kirbster you are correct…the Keg was the bomb yesterday. Sliders rule.

    If you’re so inclined you can check out some photos I took.


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    Wow, another great Squeezer! Thanks to the Liberty! crew and all of the volunteers for all the hard work. I am very happy with my own results; despite a broken chain and a short 'roll' in the mud while walking the long bridge by the lake, I managed to pull off 267th place which was a 414 place improvement over last year! I also managed 8th place in the double magnum category meeting my goal of top ten 'big' guys, and had a great time in the process. Thanks again to everyone that makes this such a great event!

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    Anyone have links for the photographer? Are the pics up yet? Hoping I don't have a frohawk this year.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetfilly7
    Anyone have links for the photographer? Are the pics up yet? Hoping I don't have a frohawk this year.
    They'll be posted here but are not up yet. Frohawks are cool, just ask Mark Batty.

    http://www.photoreflect.com/pr4Main/...=ps&n=Squeezer

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