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    XTR Short Cage derailleur?

    I bought what I thought was a short cage XTR derailleur from Ebay, but it's looking a lot more like a medium cage. How can I figure that out, without it being marked especially?

    I know that the newer short cages are really medium cages, but the one I bought is a 95*...

    Any suggestions?

    Thanks!

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    Easy... there are no XTR short cage models, only medium and long cage. Short cage is only found on their Saint line and their road bike lines.

    Shimano uses a code to officially designate the cage length, and it should be on the derailleur somewhere and really should be listed in any auction or sale. SGS is long cage, GS is medium cage, SS is short cage

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    I'm not sure that's the case with previous iterations. Yes, with the 960s on it is...

    But, with the 950s I believe there is/was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobslide
    I'm not sure that's the case with previous iterations. Yes, with the 960s on it is...

    But, with the 950s I believe there is/was.
    MOMBAT has a surprisingly detailed history of Shimano components here and they don't mention a short cage version

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    Cool, I guess I was misinformed. Thanks.

    It was this picture that got me excited:

    http://www.biketrials.com/fun/99-12-20-Adam/xtr1.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobslide
    Cool, I guess I was misinformed. Thanks.

    It was this picture that got me excited:

    http://www.biketrials.com/fun/99-12-20-Adam/xtr1.jpg
    That does look surprisingly short. Maybe it's modified with a custom cage, or maybe some road cages could be interchanged?

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    That's what I'm thinking...

    Oh well, guess I'll throw the XTR derailleur back on the Bay and get a Dura Ace.

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    There is a way to fit a short shadow saint deraileur cage to a xtr 9sp shadow rear mech, not sure exactly how it's done but the exploded diagrams on the shimano tech docs website should help, pic here, http://www.sicklines.com/gallery/sho...13891/size/big
    Cheers, Ben.

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    Were rapid rise derailleurs ever made in a short cage version? My XTR RR rear looks to be a short cage...i'm gonna look into it.

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    Does it look like this one? I think they only made one cage size in the early 90's.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails XTR Short Cage derailleur?-xtr.jpg  


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    Quote Originally Posted by jacobslide
    That's what I'm thinking...

    Oh well, guess I'll throw the XTR derailleur back on the Bay and get a Dura Ace.
    I have a XT shortcage that says it will take up to 28 teeth if you want to swap. Around here 28 is a little tall with a standard crank.

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    For the early XTR derailleur in the photo above, will this take an 11-34T cassette? The one in the photo is 11-28T.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabrabu
    For the early XTR derailleur in the photo above, will this take an 11-34T cassette? The one in the photo is 11-28T.

    My impression is only 9+speed long cage derailleurs go above 32T

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fred Smedley
    My impression is only 9+speed long cage derailleurs go above 32T
    So I couldn't use that derailleur with a 9-speed shifter & 11-34T cassette?
    But I could use it with a 9-speed shifter and 11-32T cassette?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jabrabu
    So I couldn't use that derailleur with a 9-speed shifter & 11-34T cassette?
    But I could use it with a 9-speed shifter and 11-32T cassette?
    That is my understanding. I am using a xtr like above with a 11-32 and a 24-36-46 crank only a 8 speed . Of course the rd could care less how many gears you are shifting.

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