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    XTR RD-M985 Shadow Plus rear derailleur???

    Shimano's website used to indicate this would be available in the market in June 2011, now I don't even see it on the website. And there are none showing up on eBay. Anyone have any information about this component?

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    Well I noticed one on ebay a few days back. Apparently someone bought it: http://cgi.ebay.com/2012-Shimano-XTR...item4cf84dd2bc

    Wonder how he got it... But I guess it should be out soon.

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    I saw that one, but if it was out, or soon to be out, there would be more. For example look at 2012 Shimano XT on eBay. Lots for sale, all from Asia, where production is located. If the XTR shadow plus were in production, you would see the same thing. And why can this item not be found on shimano.com anymore?

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    http://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...s.php?id=42356

    Maybe I should buy some and put them on ebay, to take advantage of people that can't google correctly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkston32 View Post
    http://www.universalcycles.com/shopp...s.php?id=42356

    Maybe I should buy some and put them on ebay, to take advantage of people that can't google correctly.
    BTI (distributor) has them in stock, too. MSRP $249.99
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    Haikus are easy
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    Well aren't you brilliant. While I'm not completely against you taking advantage of others by inflating the price, this is sort of the wrong thread to post in. There's a link of it selling for less right above yours, and you bumped this thread to the top as well. Also it's no longer true that it's not available in the US.

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    Dude calm down, you don't have to buy it! haha jeez
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    No problem! Just noting... Good luck!

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    Quote Originally Posted by slalomnorth65 View Post
    Dude calm down, you don't have to buy it! haha jeez
    But at $50 more than MSRP for a product that is readily available?
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    anyone know of anyplace with the midcage in stock?
    The mountains are calling and I must go

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    I was pretty impressed by how well this derailleur has worked. Nice job on this one Shimano.
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    no one seems to have "short" cage in stock (ie. GS version) yet.
    is this actually a short cage though or is it medium?
    i noticed gwin is racing on a truly short cage version, which is what i'm interested in, but i suspect they'll be saving that for the "saint" production version.

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    Quote Originally Posted by clarkalewis View Post
    no one seems to have "short" cage in stock (ie. GS version) yet.
    is this actually a short cage though or is it medium?
    i noticed gwin is racing on a truly short cage version, which is what i'm interested in, but i suspect they'll be saving that for the "saint" production version.
    The shortest XTR is a medium cage. GS in Shimano's terminology is medium cage and SS is short cage.

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    Is "shadow plus" available in 9 speed?

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    Nope. XTR Dynasys only. Incompatible with any 9 speed stuff.

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    I Just installed the RD-M985-GS last night, with the new SL-M780 shifter pod, on my 1x7 (10sp cogs). This setup is sweet! The shifter with the instant and dual release is a great upgrade from the old 10sp shifter.

    The derailleur is a marvel too. I was surprised at how much friction the clutch adds, but it doesn't hinder shifting, it is smooth and precise.

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    What do you mean by "how much friction" is added?

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    The claim to fame for the Shadow Plus derailleur is the one-way clutch. It adds friction to the movement of the cage to reduce chain slap.

    http://www.bikerumor.com/2011/06/20/...ar-derailleur/

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    I know it is labeled as a 10 speed derailleur, but can you still use this derailleur on a 9 speed cog set with a 9 speed shifter? Doesn't the shifter control the indexing and amount of pull length? If not, why wouldn't they offer it a 9 speed version?

    Anyone try this yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by gonewiththeschwinn View Post
    I know it is labeled as a 10 speed derailleur, but can you still use this derailleur on a 9 speed cog set with a 9 speed shifter? Doesn't the shifter control the indexing and amount of pull length?
    Yes and no. The shifter does control the amount of pull length, but indexing is a function of both the amount of cable pulled and the spring tension. That's why SRAM shifters aren't compatible with Shimano derailleurs and vice versa.

    Quote Originally Posted by gonewiththeschwinn View Post
    If not, why wouldn't they offer it a 9 speed version?

    Anyone try this yet?
    They wouldn't offer it in a 9 speed version because Shimano likes having money. The sooner they can make 9 speed groups seem obsolete, the better from their standpoint. Shadow Plus helps make that happen.

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