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    SRAM type 2 derailleur issues

    Hey All:

    I've been running an X9 type 2 derailleur for around 3 weeks now. Everything you've read is true: chain slap is nearly eliminated and the frequency of dropped chains is reduced (at least compared to a SRAM xx 2x10 rear der.) BUT, I've developed a strange and irritating issue:

    The clutch seems to have fallen out of tune or something. It takes a significant force to overcome the clutch at this point. When the cage finally moves forward I hear a fairly loud click. I hear this click every time I cycle past 40% travel in the rear. I can also feel this force in the suspension travel. I've been riding primarily dusty terrain. I was caught in a biblical rain storm about a week ago. Anyone else discover similar issues? Is the clutch adjustable (i don't think so)?

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    It seems you aren't the only one having issues with the type 2 derailleur! I had issues with my clutch being way to tight keeping the bike from shifting correctly. For the time being i think the type 2 is a flop. i sent mine in for warranty. I am now using Shimano Zee derailleur and saint shifter. The clutch is not adjustable.

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    More info on this. I was about to invest in a Type2.

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    I would wait. My bike shifts fine and it is much quieter but the very slight hesitation I feel/hear in my suspension travel is really troubling. I think the source of my issues may have been a really intense rainstorm. I spoke to SRAM today. They are looking into it. Also of note - I'm not an anal mtb owner. I ride a lot and I do an average amount of maintenance. I'm accustomed to some occasional noise from my ride.

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    Damn, I'm really interested in one of these derailleurs. Amazon has em for a decent price too. Prime shipping, no tax - was just bout to pull the trig when I decided i should do a few searches first. Guess this is the price of being an early adopter. Hope they work out these issues quick!
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    This is upsetting, I just bought a X.0 type 2, hmmm I'll try it anyway.

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    Following up, a friend sent me this link to a thread on bikeradar:

    BikeRadar.com • View topic - SRAM type 2
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    This guy is having the exact same problem that I am.

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    joe_soma:

    Thanks for the BikeRadar link!

    My type 2 is having the exact same issue after 2 weeks in dusty condistions. It started out with a slight knock. Then it progressed to a louder knock and could be felt everytime the suspension moved. I took the shock off and cycled the suspension... it didn't matter which gear or at what point the susp was cycled. On initial up movement, every gear produced the knock/ clunk.

    SRAM customer service had very different answers from Friday to today... The first rep I talked to said it was obviously an issue. The rep today would only discuss through a bike shop mechanic and they tried to imply that the new derailleur has a different cage length capacity than previous SRAM derailleurs.

    Even worse: I have XTR Shadow Plus in its place now that performs flawlessly! I like the SRAM lever action, but the clutch does not seem ready for "primetime." Early adoption strikes again

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    New question here.

    Hmm.... I was ready to get the X9 also as I have X7 triggers already. Can I still get an XT Shadow and run the X7 triggers?... or will I need to go all Shimano? Looking to just set it up as a 1 x 10 for the rear using the short cage. 34T Bling ring with a 12/36 cassette.
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    Your shifters need to match your rd. so if you have shimano rd you need shimano shifters same goes for SRAM. I think the reason being they each have a different shift length when you shift te shifters so the rd wouldn't shift right of you mismatched them. Make sense?

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    Thank you guys for sharing your experiences, I was about to dive in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tree_trunks View Post
    Even worse: I have XTR Shadow Plus in its place now that performs flawlessly! I like the SRAM lever action, but the clutch does not seem ready for "primetime." Early adoption strikes again
    So glad that I went the XT Plus route instead of X0. I like that the Shimano clutch system is easily accessible/adjustable.

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    I may be experiencing this too. New bike came with x9 Type2 and have noticed a "notch point" during suspension movement. Not audible, but can be felt through the stroke of the rear suspension. WIll update with findings during testing.

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    Glad I found this thread too. I was waiting for the silver/black colorways on the Type 2 (due Nov FYI) and now I'm glad I waited.

    I've come to really love the feel of SRAM XO shifting but really would like to go roller clutch rear der. Hope they get this sorted ASAP. It's clear Shimano put the work in on Shadow Plus. Everyone raves about it.
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    Yup, just confirming after having more time to look into it. I can definitely feel the clutch threshold through my pedals when the rear suspension activates. Depending on which gear I am in on the cassette (due to chain tension) I can feel the notch at a varying point during the suspension travel. Sometimes I don't feel it at all, if the suspension isn't moving enough to reach the threshold to activate the clutch. Nonetheless I do notice it on occasion. Under riding conditions it is harder to detect, as truthfully I am paying more attention to the trail - but when I do notice while riding, it does kind of irk me. Hoping the clutch breaks in a bit and it becomes less noticeable. I don't want to outlay any cash to swap derailleurs or anything so at this point, I'm just saying F- it and riding the bike.

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    I just installed a medium cage type 2 X0 in place of a medium cage XX. 2x10 setup. Setting proper chain length for the small chain ring and small cog results in inadequate chain length for large chain ring and large cassette cogs. With 10 as the largest, when I shift to 8, the chain jams because there is not enough slack chain to lift onto the cog. If I then add a link, when I run small chain ring and small (#1) cassette cog, the chain/upper jockey wheel contacts moving chain. There is no chain length that works! How is this possible?

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    Quote Originally Posted by testtech View Post
    I just installed a medium cage type 2 X0 in place of a medium cage XX. 2x10 setup. Setting proper chain length for the small chain ring and small cog results in inadequate chain length for large chain ring and large cassette cogs. With 10 as the largest, when I shift to 8, the chain jams because there is not enough slack chain to lift onto the cog. If I then add a link, when I run small chain ring and small (#1) cassette cog, the chain/upper jockey wheel contacts moving chain. There is no chain length that works! How is this possible?
    XX is always long cage. Medium cage does not have quite enough travel for true 2x10 with the 11-36 cassette in the back, that's your issue.

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    I'm very glad I came across this thread. I was on the fence between XT and X9. Now I'm leaning to Shimano. So the long cage is the ticket for 11-36

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hangtime View Post
    I'm very glad I came across this thread. I was on the fence between XT and X9. Now I'm leaning to Shimano. So the long cage is the ticket for 11-36
    My medium cage XO type 2 is now working flawlessly on 11-36. The original problems were the result of an installation error by the bike shop mechanic. All I got from this experience was that I will use a different bike shop;

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    I also have the knocking noise (X0 Type 2, medium cage). Exactly as joe_soma described: it's quite audible once you hit about 40% rear travel.
    I spoke with Sram today and (after initially claiming to be unaware of the problem) the rep said it is only noise and a) does not affect the suspension and b) will not harm the derailleur.
    Anyone have any further thoughts?

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    I have some thoughts, though my thoughts don't usually amount to much. I am curious however, there seem to be no reports of this behavior affecting users of Shimano's clutch system so I wonder what is different mechanically about them. I know shimano's is user-adjustable to an extent but beyond that haven't seen one or felt one even.

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    For the data point, I've got about a month on mine without this issue.

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    My one month old Type2 medium cage is clicking now! You cant test yours by siting on your bike and and bouncing up and down to compress the rear suspension. I tried lubing all the pivot points on the Type2, no luck. Mine was initially quiet, so it's gotta be related to dusty trail riding, washing the bike or wear on the sealed clutch mechanism, Sram has got to be aware of this issue.

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    Is the consensus to run a medium cage with an 11-36T cassette even with a 1x10 drivetrain?

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    I'm running a medium Type2 cage on my 1x10 setup (11-36t x 34t) and I still get clicking.

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