Shimano Dyna-sis 10speed mtb front and rear with bar end shifters.

[mojak]

Hi guys, hope some of you can help me out here...

Im looking to set up a drop bar mtb, intend to use the Retroshift CXV brake/shifters combo to a 2x10 XT Dyna-sis front and rear d/ cassette/ crank..

The good guy from Retroshift so far is unable to confirm if the CXV will be compatible to the current Dynasis XT rear d. Has anyone tried before? He also mentioned that if the Dyna-sis rear d could work on any of the road 2x10 bar end shifters then it could work on his CXV shifters too

If possible I do not want to use bar end shifters or STIs for my bike. Brakes will be the Avid BB7 mtn, hence the CXV choice.

Read in the monstercross forum, one guy actually modified his 9speed XT rear d, changing the tensioner screw to a longer type to move the derailleur across his 10speed cassette. I can visualize but Im no expert but he says it can be done but with minor niggles. here's to his link

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hope you can understand and help me out...thank you.

[SimpleJon]

Can't help with the CVX / bar end shifters and dynasys RD- but I have run a 10 speed Shimano 11-36 MTN Cassette with Ultegra 6700 gruppo and a Long Cage RD-M772 (9 speed XT RD) on my touring / CX bike. I needed to get a fractionally longer low limit screw but other than that it works very well. The B Screw was fine
Why not go with BB7 Road - if you get the new 5700 or 6700 STI's these pull more cable than the x600 versions and work beautifully with the BB7 RD calipers - a couple of mates have CX bikes set up like this and the braking seems very similar to BB7 MTN to me

[mojak]

SimpleJon, yup I read that it can be done a 9speed rear d to a 10speed cassette by changing the screw.

Most prob I will go that route..the other being using a road rear d n cassette, the biggest for road casette is 12-30t...

I have already got a BB7 mtn brake so, ya will prob go with the 1st option.thanks.

[customfab]

Have the guys at retro shift been hiding under a rock? Dyna-sys components are not compatible with other shimano parts. You can however use a 9spd rear derailleur with 10spd road shifters and cassette.

[RetroShift]

Have the guys at retro shift been hiding under a rock? Dyna-sys components are not compatible with other shimano parts. You can however use a 9spd rear derailleur with 10spd road shifters and cassette.

Hi customfab. No not hiding under a rock! We get many questions on compatibility and do our best to reply to these. We are not however experts on all the different shifting systems that our shifters will work with.

Yes - Dyna-sys components are not compatible:

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What we DO know and state however is that our system is compatible with Shimano Road Derailleurs. If you can get your rear derailleur to work with an Ultegra, Dura-ace, 105 SHIFT lever then it will (we are very sure) also work with our shift lever.

We are however SUPER happy to hear of new ways people are able to come up with to get around compatibility issues and we love you for every one you come up with!

XOXO

The Goats
Retroshift CX | Mud Proof Shifting for Cyclocross. Designed by Goats.

[customfab]

Hi customfab. No not hiding under a rock! We get many questions on compatibility and do our best to reply to these. We are not however experts on all the different shifting systems that our shifters will work with.

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That's a pretty basic and common question that comes up fairly frequently. It's also been applicable for almost 3 years.

When people ask me if my lock ring tool is compatible with Campagnolo square taper bottom brackets I've got an answer to it.

Out of curiosity do you guys make mounts for SRAM or Campagnolo shifters?

[RetroShift]

That's a pretty basic and common question that comes up fairly frequently. It's also been applicable for almost 3 years.

When people ask me if my lock ring tool is compatible with Campagnolo square taper bottom brackets I've got an answer to it.

Out of curiosity do you guys make mounts for SRAM or Campagnolo shifters?

I applaud your immense knowledge on topics of compatibility and wrenching! We each have our areas of expertise and would hope that because of this fact that forums like this will continue to flourish as hot beds of information. The collective knowledge of this forum should be greater than any one bicycle company has.

Our system is currently compatible with many down-tube and bar-end shift levers that will mount to a standard down-tube style boss. There are exceptions however. SRAM and Newer Campy both use larger circumference shift levers on their newer stuff and these do not fit our current offering.

Goats

[customfab]

Our system is currently compatible with many down-tube and bar-end shift levers that will mount to a standard down-tube style boss. There are exceptions however. SRAM and Newer Campy both use larger circumference shift levers on their newer stuff and these do not fit our current offering.

Goats

Having a retro shift with a SRAM R2C shifter would be awesome, might want to think about putting that on the to-do list.

Campagnolo is pretty non-exsistant in CX, but might have touring applications, not sure how big you are in the touring and rando markets though.

[4Crawler]

Hi guys, hope some of you can help me out here...

Im looking to set up a drop bar mtb, intend to use the Retroshift CXV brake/shifters combo to a 2x10 XT Dyna-sis front and rear d/ cassette/ crank..

The good guy from Retroshift so far is unable to confirm if the CXV will be compatible to the current Dynasis XT rear d. Has anyone tried before? He also mentioned that if the Dyna-sis rear d could work on any of the road 2x10 bar end shifters then it could work on his CXV shifters too

If possible I do not want to use bar end shifters or STIs for my bike. Brakes will be the Avid BB7 mtn, hence the CXV choice.

Read in the monstercross forum, one guy actually modified his 9speed XT rear d, changing the tensioner screw to a longer type to move the derailleur across his 10speed cassette. I can visualize but Im no expert but he says it can be done but with minor niggles. here's to his link

DSCF1325

hope you can understand and help me out...thank you.

That is my bike build linked above and if you stick with a 9sp RD, all should be fine with the 10sp shifting. I swapped in a longer b-tension screw in the RD to kick it out a bit for the 36t cog:
- Various Manufacturers Stainless Socket Cap Screw 4 mm x 20 mm - Harris Cyclery bicycle shop - West Newton, Massachusetts

I used a 16mm screw as I had one sitting around. Not sure if it is absolutely required, as I swapped the screw before even installing the RD. You can see the b-tension screw below:



That was the only thing I have had to do, limit screws were fine. Have 9 months of riding on the bike/shifters and they work as well as when they were first installed. Just clicks from gear to gear. I am so used to the shifting just working that I routinely click in a shift or two while coasting then a gentle half turn on the cranks and it pops up onto to the right cog. Almost messed up last weekend, got carried away and I think I put 4 clicks without knowing and there was a bit of racket in back, but it shifted just fine. I do have the rapid rise RD, so those shifts are into bigger cogs.

[RetroShift]

customfab - We are really 100% CX focus. We understand our shifters are used for many disciplines but that is where are hearts are. We also feel pretty confident that if it will work for CX it will at the very least hold up to whatever is thrown at it!

R2C would be cool but would give up some of the advantages of the system: Ability to shift anywhere on cassette pretty much instantly. I don't think the R2C will shift more than 4 or 5 gears at one time. It is also pretty expensive. We offer a $24 re-build on our system (for a complete brake lever and shifter assembly). If you broke an R2C it would likely cost $100 just for another shift lever. We would rather see the money spent on making the bike faster (save money on a more capable shifter and spend extra on faster wheels).

Cheers,

Goats

[RetroShift]

4Crawler - Nice work!

I really appreciate the work and tenacity get parts like these working together.

I do have to say however that when we are asked about this compatibility we will still forward people to this forum as for us as a manufacturer to tell customers it is ok to do this (even if it is a great solution) can be tricky. If the rear derailleur fails (even for an unrelated reason) a shop might get weird and not honor the warranty etc.

I imagine one of us will give this a try in the future to better understand it.

Cheers,

Goats