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    Older style shifter cables

    This question is about a road bike, figured you guys could help me just the same.

    I have a quite old Ventura Custom Road bike I am rebuilding and I want to reuse its stem shifters. The only problem is the nipple on the cables are none that I have seen before. Being a older bike I would guess that newer bikes simply dont use the style any more. The end the the cable is flat compared to a normal shifter cable. Any help with links to where I can buy these online would be helpful.

    Also the derailleurs are completely rusted solid. The bike is a 10 speed, 2 gears in the front 5 in the back. I believe this would be a correct replacement for the rear http://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...erailleur.aspx, Can anyone confirm? Its the correct style and handles 5 to 7 speed. I am assuming it will work with the stem mounted shifters I have. I need to give the front derailleur and better look to figure out what I need.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dremer03
    The end the the cable is flat compared to a normal shifter cable.

    I believe this would be a correct replacement for the rear http://www.jensonusa.com/store/produ...erailleur.aspx, Can anyone confirm? Its the correct style and handles 5 to 7 speed.
    The cable end is flat and round ? Friction ? I believe that you need a friction [non SIS] cable .The derailleur you linked will work with a friction setup , as long as you dont allready have a derailluer hanger .

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    The original derialleur was bolted onto the sliding drop out. The frame has no built in hanger.
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    Good to go with that derailluer pick as long as you are using friction shifters .

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    Oh to answer your other question yes they are flat and round. The shifter cables I own have a more barrel shaped nipple, but the ones that came out of the shifters on the road bike are flat and round so the slide into a slot.
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    Friction , should be easy to source .

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    I used to have shifters like that a long time ago...this cable would work http://www.thethirdhand.com/index.cg...d=166741515473
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikinfoolferlife
    I used to have shifters like that a long time ago...this cable would work http://www.thethirdhand.com/index.cg...d=166741515473
    Cool thanks.

    Its a tiny picture, but the end on the left side looks to be what I would need.
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    I didn't use the picture, my eyes aren't that good, it was the worded description and that derailleurs and shifters like that were pretty common on old 10 speeds (at least a few I had).
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikinfoolferlife
    I didn't use the picture, my eyes aren't that good, it was the worded description and that derailleurs and shifters like that were pretty common on old 10 speeds (at least a few I had).

    That is similar if not the same as the ones that I use for one bike with stem shifters .

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    If it looks kinda like a mini version of a MTB brake cable head, except flatter, a disc about 5mm x2mm with the wire entering at the rim, that's a Huret cable, and they're still available.
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    I just worked on a mountain bike that had suntour shifters on it, and it used those same style cables.
    i picked up some Alligator cables from pricepoint and they are double sided as well.

    http://www.pricepoint.com/detail/158...less-Cable.htm

    Zoom in on that picture. The one on the right is a brake cable, and the left one is a double sided shift cable like you need.
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    From the PP ad for the Alligator cables:

    Alligator Slick Stainless Cable are formed with flat surfaces for reduced friction. Pre-stretched for precise braking and shifting.


    How's that flat surface thing work?
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    Good question.
    I don't know.........I'm assuming that the cable strands are made of a more modular flat wire, rather than a round wire.
    The cables look fairly normal to me.
    I personally haven't used them yet, but have put a few on buddies bikes and they work good.
    i did notice that they don't seem to stretch a bunch, as I barely had to readjust their shifting after extended use.
    The only reason I bought some of them, is they were on sale for under $1.00 a while ago and I was placing an order already......figured I'd give em a try.
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    Was wondering if it was more a bad translation and they were saying a coating gives it a smooth surface...and what cables stretch these days?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bikinfoolferlife
    Was wondering if it was more a bad translation and they were saying a coating gives it a smooth surface...and what cables stretch these days?
    No, the flat surface is the result of a finished cable being re-drawn through a die essentially squashing the round outer wires to form a flatter exterior profile. Jagwire uses the same or a similar process.

    To understand what that's about, put 7 pennies (rich folks can use quarters, or Anthony dollars) together to form a hexagon with one of them in the middle. Now imagine if that were squashed down into a circle with the outer pennies pushed in and bulged against their neighbors.

    The advantage is smoother running in housings, the draw back (no-pun) is reduced flexibility and shorter life due to metal fatigue.
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