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    New 2015 Shimano XTR 1x11

    Here are some news about Shimano XTR 1x11 groupset:

    2015 NEW SHIMANO! | MTB-News.de

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    New 2015 Shimano XTR 1x11

    For real this time?


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    Quote Originally Posted by mik8yu View Post
    For real this time?
    It's hard to say. The website in OP's post definitely looks bogus. But saying that, Shimano has been doing 11-speed stuff on their road bikes for at least a couple years now, so it's only a matter of time before that technology moves over to mountain bikes.
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    Dude. It's pictures of a Shimano catalog. Did you see the Di2 stuff???

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    mtb-news.de is not a bogus site It is one of the biggest german mtb forums.

    Anyhow. The info is most likely legit. I had it cross-confirmed with other sources

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    Picture speak for themselves.
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    Those cranks are sexy! 11-40T should be a large enough range for most riders.

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    The link threw me to a bike related spam site for some reason! Apologies, guys.

    That reminds me, my computer has been running slow and acting funky lately, maybe it's time to clean it out...
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    The thread in my link has obviously been deleted...

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    Finally!

    Looks like no special drive shell is needed. 11-40 is a good call by shimano - at least it is for my east coast needs.

    I think the cranks look cheesy but I won't be buying them anyway. Just want the shifter, cassette and derailleur.

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    11-40 1x11 is not enough for me. i will stick with 2x10 until the x9.1 becomes available.

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    It'll still force you to buy new wheels...or at least a rear if your hub is not compatible with the 11sp freehub.

    I was on the verge of going XX1/01 until I found out that my new rear wheel is not XD compatible. I doubt that the Shimano 11sp will be compatible either.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RS VR6 View Post
    It'll still force you to buy new wheels...or at least a rear if your hub is not compatible with the 11sp freehub.

    I was on the verge of going XX1/01 until I found out that my new rear wheel is not XD compatible. I doubt that the Shimano 11sp will be compatible either.
    This is the one deterring factor in making the switch. Can't ad the wheel part into the budget equation. :/
    Wait,who did he tell you that?....

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    I like the Di2 but the range of the cassette is to limited 11/40 compared to srams 10/42

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    New 2015 Shimano XTR 1x11

    Nice to see 2/3 X still being offered if desired. 24/40 is way low


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    Those chainrings dont look replaceable.

    I also dont like the knuckle design on the rear d. I like the upper cog to sit foward of the linkage, in order to give plenty of clearance on FSR/Horst link suspensions.

    Overall, its very "meh". Ill keep running my 9 speed stuff, and if I buy a new bike, and it has XX1 or XTR 11, then cool, I'll keep it.

    On another point of discussion, does anyone else have chainsuck issues on 10 speed stuff? It seems my 10 speed stuff has to be super clean to not chainsuck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LetoEscobar View Post
    I like the Di2 but the range of the cassette is to limited 11/40 compared to srams 10/42
    It is actually not a very big difference: compare the following gear ratios with 28 vs 30 chainring:

    1140 x 30 => 2.73 to .75 (XTR 2015?)
    1142 x 30 => 2.73 to .71 (aftermarket)
    1042 x 28 => 2.80 to .67 (SRAM $1000-1500)

    With a 1140 you loose at most three quarters of gear in respect to 1042. with 1142 you are almost identical. (Reason is that 11 to 10 is a very small gap, 1042 is actually a bit of silly idea).

    I would have preferred that Shimano came out with 1142 10 speed, but because I am migrating from 9 speed 1140 eleven speed will do just great. For people that do not mind a dual ring a 1140 cassette with, say, 26 and 40 chain ring offers a massive range.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FastBanana View Post
    Those chainrings dont look replaceable.
    It's hard to tell, but I bet they're using a spiderless direct-mount design. I think Shimano knows better than to make a crankset without replaceable chainrings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GilbyVT View Post
    It's hard to tell, but I bet they're using a spiderless direct-mount design. I think Shimano knows better than to make a crankset without replaceable chainrings.
    And you would think every manufacturer would make servicable cassettes, but they dont.

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    New 2015 Shimano XTR 1x11

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    The thread in my link has obviously been deleted...
    A similar thread was deleted on the weight weenies site as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FastBanana View Post
    And you would think every manufacturer would make servicable cassettes, but they dont.
    That's a different discussion, but I personally don't have a need for seviceable cassettes. By the time one cog reaches the end of its life, others will be close behind. I'd rather just replace the whole cassette, chain and maybe chainring(s) together. That being said, I don't use cassettes like the XTR with titanium cogs that tend to wear more quickly.

    I looked more closely at the literature that was posted and it says the Hollowtech II crank arm is "compatible with all of the new XTR chainrings." So, it looks like they will be replaceable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davide View Post
    It is actually not a very big difference: compare the following gear ratios with 28 vs 30 chainring:

    1140 x 30 => 2.73 to .75 (XTR 2015?)
    1142 x 30 => 2.73 to .71 (aftermarket)
    1042 x 28 => 2.80 to .67 (SRAM $1000-1500)

    With a 1140 you loose at most three quarters of gear in respect to 1042. with 1142 you are almost identical. (Reason is that 11 to 10 is a very small gap, 1042 is actually a bit of silly idea).

    I would have preferred that Shimano came out with 1142 10 speed, but because I am migrating from 9 speed 1140 eleven speed will do just great. For people that do not mind a dual ring a 1140 cassette with, say, 26 and 40 chain ring offers a massive range.
    You are so consistently wrong on your XX1 pricing Davide - Nobody pays MSRP - Srams XX1 can frequently be picked up for $900 ish. Knock off the $hit about $1500.

    And yes, $900 is still expensive, but at least stay accurate. I know ya got it in ya.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 006_007 View Post
    You are so consistently wrong on your XX1 pricing Davide - Nobody pays MSRP - Srams XX1 can frequently be picked up for $900 ish. Knock off the $hit about $1500.

    And yes, $900 is still expensive, but at least stay accurate. I know ya got it in ya.
    Maybe you can tray to say something interesting for a change? I put a range of $1000-1500, it all depends where/when you buy and if you need to buy an extra wheel. The low end of my range is actually $100 away from your claim so what's your point ...

    The post was about the new Shimano more than anything else, if the rumor is true I am a bit disappointed about the 11 speed which I think is useless, but happy about the 1140 that is a very nice set up and plenty range-wise, with a dual ring and Di2 it will be huge for the people that need it.

    But I also think that it is good to reiterate that $1000-$1500 spent on SRAM in 2014 gets you a system that has no advantage in respect to 1142, and has just a tiny bit more range in respect to 1140. Things have changed since last year when you only had 1136 as an alternative to 1042, and SRAM really looks like a silly waste of money.

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    is this really it? after all the rumours of something groundbreaking coming from shimano, something that would wipe out xx1, they are bringing out a 10-40 cassette.

    I'm a shimano person through and through, can't stand sram gear, but is this the best they could do? What a shame. They should have gone 10-43 to be competitive.

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