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    Leonardi Racing 942 Cassette 10 speed

    Here we go pushing the boundaries:

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    After the General Lee 3-cogs modification to existing 11x32, Leonardi racing is coming out with a complete cassette 9x42, 10 speed. 9-11-13-15-18-21-24-29-35-42 all in steel, with a version with aluminum 29-35-42. Probably expensive ... but still you can upgrade straight from 10 speed at the cost of cassette + SRAM driver (if your wheel allows it). There will also be a 9-40 and a 11 speed version.

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    Looking at the ratios it is quite impressive.

    Single: 32 chain ring 9 x 42 cassette: gear ratio 3.56 to 0.76
    Double: 28 and 40 chain rings 11x36: gear ratio 3.64 to 0.78

    You need a 42 chain ring to get more range, and of course a 26/42 (or a triple) would have wider range ... and so would have a double with a 9x42

    Nice thing with a single 9x42 is that most of the time one would use the 11 to 35 cogs, with the 42 as bail out gear, and the 9 as overdrive. I am actually happy with 30 11x36, and 11x42 would be plenty, but it is kind of exciting to see how many smart solution to the 1xsomething are coming out.

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    Good idea and been talked about on here for a 10 spd cassette with a similar range. But I read somewhere in a related thread (probably Budget XX1 and a link?? which I can't find at the moment...) about a 9t cog not being useful with a chain setup such as on a bike. 10 tooth pushes the limits, but the size of a 9 was a disadvantage. Link was an engineering article based on gear reductions etc.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JMac47 View Post
    Good idea and been taked about on here for a 10 spd cassette with a similar range. But I read somewhere in a related thread (probably Budget XX1 and a link?? which I can't find at the moment...) about a 9t cog not being useful with a chain setup such as on a bike. 10 tooth pushes the limits, but the size of a 9 was a disadvantage. Link was an engineering article based on gear reductions etc.
    Ya, it was touched on briefly in the Canfield Microdrive thread:

    Canfield Microdrive 9 tooth cassette

    Not sure if a 9T is needed or not - I barely ever use the 10T on my setup, and cant think of a time where I wished there was one more.

    Does give a nice wide spread of ratios though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 006_007 View Post
    Ya, it was touched on briefly in the Canfield Microdrive thread:

    Canfield Microdrive 9 tooth cassette

    Not sure if a 9T is needed or not - I barely ever use the 10T on my setup, and cant think of a time where I wished there was one more.

    Does give a nice wide spread of ratios though.
    Thanks Double O, yeah that's it! Usually better at research......

    And you're right, I think the need for that "wide range" 10spd cassette everyone's requesting is growing with the current 1x movement. Thinking it won't be too long before the big S name players will put something together, well Shimano anyway .
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    Nice thing in respect to the Canfield is the spacing of the Leonardi Racing. Canfield has 9, 10 and 11: a lot of gears where you need them least. LR has 8 gears in the range we use most (11-13-15-18-21-24-29-35), plus 42, and the 9 overdrive that one can indeed probably forget about in most occasions ... LR is also coming out with a 10x42 10 speed.

    Good model to imitate, and I do wish Shimano came out with something even simpler: an 11x42 ten speed

    (I hope so especially because I am moving to ten speed as we speak .. I'll hate to be outdated in 2 months by yet another 11 or 12 or 14 speed )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davide View Post
    Nice thing in respect to the Canfield is the spacing of the Leonardi Racing. Canfield has 9, 10 and 11: a lot of gears where you need them least. LR has 8 gears in the range we use most (11-13-15-18-21-24-29-35), plus 42, and the 9 overdrive that one can indeed probably forget about in most occasions ... LR is also coming out with a 10x42 10 speed.

    Good model to imitate, and I do wish Shimano came out with something even simpler: an 11x42 ten speed

    (I hope so especially because I am moving to ten speed as we speak .. I'll hate to be outdated in 2 months by yet another 11 or 12 or 14 speed )
    Dont think you need to worry about 12 speed stuff in MTB yet as it hasnt gained traction in the roadie world (yet). I am guessing the whole Di2 electric shifting is going to eventually come our way though. No more cables to mess with.

    Would love to see that for dropper posts. Just sayin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davide View Post
    Nice thing in respect to the Canfield is the spacing of the Leonardi Racing. Canfield has 9, 10 and 11: a lot of gears where you need them least. LR has 8 gears in the range we use most (11-13-15-18-21-24-29-35), plus 42, and the 9 overdrive that one can indeed probably forget about in most occasions ... LR is also coming out with a 10x42 10 speed.

    Good model to imitate, and I do wish Shimano came out with something even simpler: an 11x42 ten speed

    (I hope so especially because I am moving to ten speed as we speak .. I'll hate to be outdated in 2 months by yet another 11 or 12 or 14 speed )
    I wish there was a derailleur that could smoothly jump up/down from @ 18 or 16t to an 11 or 12t
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    Just got a preliminary quote from LR and the 942 will be coming out at around the 380 Euro mark. The upgrade to 942 using LR would be much cheaper than going XX1/XX0 and give you one more gear, but still, big $$$ ... the 42 cog from One Up and Woolf Tooth are obviously way cheaper solutions at the price of two less gears.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davide View Post
    Just got a preliminary quote from LR and the 942 will be coming out at around the 380 Euro mark. The upgrade to 942 using LR would be much cheaper than going XX1/XX0 and give you one more gear, but still, big $$$ ... the 42 cog from One Up and Woolf Tooth are obviously way cheaper solutions at the price of two less gears.

    Wont give you one more gear (there is still only 10 total) it will give you one more ratio (and it is debatable if that is needed - early adopters of the XX1/X01 have not reported running out of gearing).

    Agree more options are good though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Davide View Post

    Good model to imitate, and I do wish Shimano came out with something even simpler: an 11x42 ten speed
    I'd be content with 11-40.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 92gli View Post
    I'd be content with 11-40.
    I could see being pretty content with a 10/38-40 10 spd matched up on a 1x setup for all the terrain conditions where I ride.
    Wait whuuut, who did he tell you that!?!?....

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    The ratio from 9 to 11 is big, roughly speaking it is close to a drop 14 to 11 with a 28-32 chain ring. That's way I shortcut the comment saying that the 9 will give you two more "gears" in respect to 11. But I agree, unless one is racing or lives in very steep country I am not sure one needs more than 11x42 or 11x40.

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    Is it even possible for a mountain RD to have enough chain capacity for the 42 AND be able to drop down to the 9 ?

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    33T spread? For sure.
    In a single ring application some short cages could do it.
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    9T was tried in BMX - and given up upon - after the hub bodies shredded apart. And these bikes are much lighter and are 1:1, this idea will be soon within the catacombs of failure.

    10spd 13-38T x 35T for the win...
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    Any word on when this cassette is going to be available? Last I heard it was to be released December 2013.

    I would really like to try the 942 on my Ti build in conjunction with X9-T2 derailuer and X0 shifter. I have an opportunity to pick-up these other components at half price, but am hesitant to do so without the 942 available. I could build it up with an 11-36 cassette, add a Oneup 42t cog and wait, but if the 942 never materializes then I am stuck with the 11t cog top gear.

    If proven functional the 9t cog would be ideal for my purposes. I could settle for 10t cog top gear if I had to, but an 11t just isn't going to cut it in a 1x configuration. If it did then I wouldn't be looking outside the 11-36 cassettes readily available. I do realize the X01 is available with 10t cog, but I am just not comfortable with that groupset, especially it's incompatibilities and pricing.

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    Leonardi Racing 9x42 Cassette 10 speed

    Yeah...^^^^^

    Price, vendor/distributor or source, and availability?

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    Recon has a 11-40...and its available.
    Recon Aluminum 10 Speed Mountain Cassette : Fairwheel Bikes, Cycling Boutique

    Thing for me is the slow shifting in the high gears. Its not as simple as Shimano making a wide range cassette. Its also developing a rear derailleur that can handle the 42T without cranking the b-tension that far in. My RD (XT Shadow Plus) does not like to be shifted fast in the high gears. XX1 shifts fast and smooth in any gear.

    The wide range 1x10 will give you most of the range of XX1...but it don't give you the shifting performance...for that...you have to pay to play.

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    Any new or updated info on the Leonardi 942? Like if or when or where it will be available for purchase? I really want one,,,or two!!!
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    I currently run the General Lee 29-35-40 on my XTR set up with a 30t up front...works like charm..shifts great throughout the whole range.

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    BOX components is working on a wide range 10spd cassette AND rear derailleur combo

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    That's nice, but it's 11-42. For me and the riding that I do, I would still prefer the Leonardi 9-42. Plus it's all steel, so it will last longer and it's still pretty light.
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    Leonardi announced that they are starting the manufacturing of their 942 cassette. I don't see why you would really need the 9t cog...unless you're planning on riding down fire roads.

    Bet it's going to be expensive.

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    Leonardi Racing 9x42 Cassette 10 speed

    Seems to me any chain will be difficult to run with 9T cog
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    Thats why SRAM went with the 10T (from what I read). The 9T is too small for the chain to wrap around...or the links are too long...or something of that nature.

    If the cassette is priced "reasonably"...may get one.

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    Nope, 9t works just fine. They wouldn't bother making it if it didn't work. I have a couple friends who have been using their own for awhile now with no issues. I'm definitely going to get one when they come out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Philip Clemmons View Post
    Yeah...^^^^^

    Price, vendor/distributor or source, and availability?
    I've been talking with a distributor, and I've been told that this product is going to be released soon. LR is testing it hard before release it.
    About price... still not announced yet

    For now only the revised version of General Lee of 40 and 42T for Sram and Shimano cassettes

    Waiting for 942...

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS VR6 View Post
    Thats why SRAM went with the 10T (from what I read). The 9T is too small for the chain to wrap around...or the links are too long...or something of that nature. ....:
    In the bikeradar article sram said the 9t works but caused a polygon (?) effect, made the pedaling action pulse and feel squared off.

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    Maybe polygon (multiple straight lines with an angle inbetween) as opposed to a circle.
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    942: 319 Euros = 440 USD.
    938: 299 Euros = 412 USD.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS VR6 View Post
    942: 319 Euros = 440 USD.
    938: 299 Euros = 412 USD.
    Where is it for sale here? And by here, I mean in the US.
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    Saw it on their Facebook page. Leonardi Factory.

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    Cool, thanks.
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    I both the onecomponents 42T ring and it works well with my 11-36 cassette problem is I could really use a 10T (10spd) I have been searching the net but cant find one...Help. I can't see a 10T working and especially a 9t but am willing to try. Around here I could use a 36T with a 11X32 and be happy but on longer rides in the mnts Id prefer a 32T and a 10X42

    Please let me know on the 10spd 10T

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    I have read somewere that Leonardi are working on a 11 speed cassette for sram 11 speed derailleurs.
    Can we hope for a 9-46 cassette? This could be THE final answer for the range missing in real mountains

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    Again,... I have just read the chart they provide on facebook and they just need to ad a 45t to they already existing 9-38 10speed cassette to obtain a 9-45 11speed cassette with 500% range!!!
    The only question... is a sram 11speed derailleur capable to shift from 38 to 45?

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    The 942 seems to be nice, does anyone know if it will work with 30 or 32T Race face narrow/wide chain ring on SLX crank, KMC X10 SL Chain, Shimano XT Clutch long derailleur, with slx shifter? and do you need a special hub or is it compatible with any?

    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aruman View Post
    The 942 seems to be nice, does anyone know if it will work with 30 or 32T Race face narrow/wide chain ring on SLX crank, KMC X10 SL Chain, Shimano XT Clutch long derailleur, with slx shifter? and do you need a special hub or is it compatible with any?

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    It should work with all the above. Only thing you'd need is a XD driver hub.

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    Ok tanks a lot, but will that XD hub fit the Giant XTC Advanced 27.5 3 rear rims?

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    We see & read about the various additions of the 40t,42 cassette rings from independent manuf but yet nothing on the small end, ie 10 & 9t. The 1x systems people are converting to could use a 10t due to spinning out using a 30t chainring on long downhill runs where speeds reach 25-30mph. Is replacing the 11t with a 10t cog that difficult to manuf?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ijd View Post
    It should work with all the above. Only thing you'd need is a XD driver hub.
    The 942 is a 10 speed cassette. It'll work with your standard hub body...if it needs an XD driver...it would defeat its purpose.

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    No, because of the 9 tooth cog, it actually does need the XD hub driver, see link below. It also says it on Leonardi's Facebook page.

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    My bad...I thought they had some other way of mounting that 9T.

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    LOL, no worries bro.
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    Looking great! The advantage I see of this is the fact that you'll be able to use many different manufacturer's hub. I've been running a modified Canfield Brothers set up since Feb and loving it. It's a bit heavy but proves the concept that the 9 tooth works and gives a great wide range cassette with a 38 tooth action tec cog. I will be experimenting soon with the Absolute Black Cassette cogs because the 42 would be a bit too low and have too large a gap between some gears.

    Here's the Absolute Black stuff:
    Cassette Adapter 28-40

    And here's the set up with the 9 tooth micro gear:
    My Version of a 2x10

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    That's pretty cool G. The Absolute Black looks similar to the General Lee, except with the General Lee, you don't have to lose the 17 or 11. You just use a Sram 1030/1050/1070 and take off the top 4 and replace them with the Gen Lee 4.

    P.s. how was New Zeleand and how's the new Turner? I heard you were ill on the trip, bummer.
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    Yeah, the A/B looks good, but your still in the same boat...taking out a cog to make it fit....the one complaint I keep hearing from the friends that just do the 40t or 42t cog....the rest of the shifting down below takes a hit performance wise....and want to swap out a 16t for the 15t blah blah blah...

    .....just spend the extra money and do it right the first time instead of bandaids.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shredman69 View Post
    That's pretty cool G. The Absolute Black looks similar to the General Lee, except with the General Lee, you don't have to lose the 17 or 11. You just use a Sram 1030/1050/1070 and take off the top 4 and replace them with the Gen Lee 4.

    P.s. how was New Zeleand and how's the new Turner? I heard you were ill on the trip, bummer.
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    I agree the GL you don't have to loose the 17 or 11. However, my set up with the Canfield Brothers and the SLX gear set now works out even better. See, the 11-34 SLX cassette came with the 19. So put the CB set up together with the 19 and AB cogs and you get a spread that looks like this:

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    With the 20 granny and the 29 big it works great AND you get a super nice spread. The 9 tooth I think is the key here. The only change I might do is replacing the 29 with a 30.

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    Any new word on this? Anyone acquire one yet? I've been hearing rumors of Canfield Brothers stopping sales of their 9 tooth, 10 speed stuff. That's disturbing. The message I got from them was they're looking for manufacturers for the cogs. Then I heard from someone else that they've stopped...........

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    10 days ago they where still testing a 9xx prototype cassette and are satisfied with results. You can follow the project updates here: https://m.facebook.com/story.php?sto...58975277567757

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmats View Post
    Any new word on this? Anyone acquire one yet? I've been hearing rumors of Canfield Brothers stopping sales of their 9 tooth, 10 speed stuff. That's disturbing. The message I got from them was they're looking for manufacturers for the cogs. Then I heard from someone else that they've stopped...........

    According to their Facebook page, they will start selling them by the end of this month. I'm waiting...
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    They need to put the parts that are compatibility for this 942 cassette or need to have for this to work.

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    It needs the XD driver. They are pretty vague when it comes to letting people know that you need it.

    I'm kinda confused myself. They have a 10 speed cassette that needs an XD driver?

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    It needs an XD driver because of the 9 tooth cog. It's too small for a regular hub driver. The only other thing you will need is a med or long cage derailleur, preferably a Sram to shift to the 42 smoothly. That's it. You use a regular 10 speed chain and shifters. And no special narrow-wide front chainrings, it uses regular 10 speed chainrings.
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    Mmmm will that XD driver fit the Giant P-XC2 27.5" rim Hub [R] 135x5mm system integrated QR or do I need to change the whole rim and go with the Giant P-XC1 27.5"?

    Thanks

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    Anybody running this? Results?

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    I'm still waiting to buy it. I haven't found it for sale anywhere yet. I just posted on their Facebook page asking when it would be available to buy but have not gotten an answer yet.
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    2015 Leonardi Factory Catalog.

    It's time to order the 942 Cassette

    ISSUU - Leonardi Factory 2015 Catalogue by Fulvio Ricciardi

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aruman View Post
    2015 Leonardi Factory Catalog.

    It's time to order the 942 Cassette

    ISSUU - Leonardi Factory 2015 Catalogue by Fulvio Ricciardi
    I spoke to Fulvio via email last week and he said the 942 would be released and available to order at the end of this month. I'm going to order mine the minute it is available. He sent me the same catalog link.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shredman69 View Post
    I spoke to Fulvio via email last week and he said the 942 would be released and available to order at the end of this month. I'm going to order mine the minute it is available. He sent me the same catalog link.
    I was just getting ready to order the One-Up 42 + XT 1136 ... but ... I think I might reconsider and go 938 or 942 Leonardi.

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    I'm interested in their clamp upper chain guide...

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    Anyone have clearance issues with the 9t cog?
    I have a Cdale Scalpel and the 11t causes the chain to slightly rub on the chainstay protector.
    Curved chainstay, so no 9t for me. :-<

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    It's obviously smaller than your 11 that is rubbing, so it may clear better. It's no wider than any other 10 speed cassette so it should be ok.
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    The rubbing is on top of the chainstay. So a smaller cog will make the chain rub more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shredman69 View Post
    I spoke to Fulvio via email last week and he said the 942 would be released and available to order at the end of this month. I'm going to order mine the minute it is available. He sent me the same catalog link.

    Sweet Bro, looking forward to the updates. I'm loving my Canfield/Absolute Black set up but am terribly disappointed at Canfield for stopping shipment of their stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmats View Post
    Sweet Bro, looking forward to the updates. I'm loving my Canfield/Absolute Black set up but am terribly disappointed at Canfield for stopping shipment of their stuff.
    Waz up G! That is a bummer they stopped shipping their stuff. Did u try to call them? I'll keep u updated with the 942 when I get it. I can't wait!
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    How much do the cassettes cost?

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    They are not cheap. According to their Facebook page the 942 is 319€ or $430.00 USD. The 938 is slightly less.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shredman69 View Post
    Waz up G! That is a bummer they stopped shipping their stuff. Did u try to call them? I'll keep u updated with the 942 when I get it. I can't wait!
    Yes, I emailed them and they responded with:

    When we last talked we were trying to find alternative cassette options, built on the Shimano Capreo standard that we use on our Microdrive hubs. Unfortunately, we still have no information that Shimano will step into the game with a 10 speed version of their Capreo system.

    This doesn't leave our customers without service or replacements on our Microdrive system. Ice Trikes also uses a very similar conversion cog on their recumbents. The sell full cassettes with a 9 - 11 - -13 - -15 - -17 - -20 - -23 - -26 -- 30- - 34 range, They can be reached at Recumbent Trikes - ICE - Home.

    Probably not the answer you were hoping for, but you are not left without replacement parts.

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    Sounds like they don't want to do anything because Shimano is not interested in going in that direction.

    I wish the Leonardo stuff was a 9-40 but 9-42 I can work with.

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    I'm sure u already know, but incase you don't, they are also doing a 9-38.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shredman69 View Post
    I'm sure u already know, but incase you don't, they are also doing a 9-38.
    Yes. I do know that. I started out with a 9-38 on my Flux but found it was about one gear harder than my Spot. I started out with the 38 because I had a spare Action Tec 38 in my spare parts box. That's when I went and got the Absolute Black gear set which has a large 40 cog. Sweet spot now on the Flux!!

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    why oh why didn't they make a 9-40t…I have the 29-40t General Lee and it's perfect….was looking for the same in cassette form.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pedal-man View Post
    why oh why didn't they make a 9-40t…I have the 29-40t General Lee and it's perfect….was looking for the same in cassette form.
    My reasoning is they think we're animals and with 29 ers, they figure 42 is more what is needed. With 26" they think 38 is plenty. I have found that with the 27.5 wheels, my gearing is effective 1 gear harder. So I agree with you, a 40 would have been great. It's what I have and it would have kept the ratios a bit closer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gmats View Post
    My reasoning is they think we're animals and with 29 ers, they figure 42 is more what is needed. With 26" they think 38 is plenty. I have found that with the 27.5 wheels, my gearing is effective 1 gear harder. So I agree with you, a 40 would have been great. It's what I have and it would have kept the ratios a bit closer.
    Yep..Got the GL 29-35-40t conversion on my Mach 6 with a 30t up front….every gear feels right….my GL is holding up great after 6+ months. I will wait and see if they come out with a 940 later on…..if not....I'll but another GL and get it anodized for more longevity.

    With the 40t you don't need to jack your derailleur all the way out either!!!!

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    Does Anybody know if the 942 Cassette is out already, it should be available end of July but still nothing or it is but where to buy it?

    thanks.

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    I'm waiting on Fulvio to email me an invoice so I can place my order. He was suppose to email it to me yesterday, but I have not heard from since last week. I'll post when I place my order.
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    I just got a reply letting me know they're delayed until next week.
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    Hope they are finally out next week and they have a lot for sale.

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    You and me both brother!
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    Ow yeah bro, if you hear something let us know.

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    Fo sho!
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    Thnx Bro

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    Still waiting to place an order.
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    Yeah Bro, mi too, but still nothing I've send some mail, but no responses.

    Don't know what's happening and when will it actually be available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aruman View Post
    Aloha, thanks for sharing. Nice write up. I can see 9-38 being perfect for 26" and perhaps 9-42 being great for 29. I tried a 9-38 combo I assembled for my 27.5 and needed a slightly lower gear. I wish they'd make a 9-40. Though I have to admit the gear spacing for 9-38 is more ideal.

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    U welome Bro, that's nice.

    I'm on 27.5 too.

    guess we need to wait for a wile again, or I have wait for the 11spd cassette they're planning, wonder what it would be 945, lol

    Lets hope they don't take much longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS VR6 View Post
    Recon has a 11-40...and its available.
    Recon Aluminum 10 Speed Mountain Cassette : Fairwheel Bikes, Cycling Boutique

    Thing for me is the slow shifting in the high gears. Its not as simple as Shimano making a wide range cassette. Its also developing a rear derailleur that can handle the 42T without cranking the b-tension that far in. My RD (XT Shadow Plus) does not like to be shifted fast in the high gears. XX1 shifts fast and smooth in any gear.

    The wide range 1x10 will give you most of the range of XX1...but it don't give you the shifting performance...for that...you have to pay to play.
    Holy **** those are light. Those are HALF the weight of XTR

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alias530 View Post
    Holy **** those are light. Those are HALF the weight of XTR
    Light, but not durable and the shifting is terrible. You'd be better off with a one up 40 or a Gen Lee. The whole idea for the 942 or 938 is wider range than XX1, on a 10 speed cassette and that's because of the 9 tooth cog which the recon aluminum cassette doesn't have.
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    The most interesting thing I find about the Leo 942 is the 9T cog, giving you a wider range compare with the others.

    Was wondering what they will come up with, with the 11 speed Cassette.

    Something like this maybe?
    "Leonardi" 9-45 11 speed cassette, WIDER than XX1!!!

    And maybe wait for the new XTR 11Spd RD and Shifter to go with? mmm lets see what will happen.

    Some Comparison, will it work?
    Leonardi Racing 9x42 Cassette 10 speed-gear-setup-compar....jpg

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    That's what's so cool about the 942, it already is wider than XX1, (9-42 vs 11-42) and in a lighter and simpler 10 speed. No need for a narrow wide setup and u can run it with a double or triple up front if u want to for a super wide range.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aruman View Post
    The most interesting thing I find about the Leo 942 is the 9T cog, giving you a wider range compare with the others.
    My daughter used a 9-36t cassette on her bike for about 4 months (before she wore out the alu cassette - but that's another story), so we've had some real world experience of a 9t cog. It definitely works and is great for adding top end when running a 1x setup with a small ring up front, but there are some drawbacks:

    - when pedalling in the 9t you can feel the pulsing of the chain through the pedals. Its not smooth like you expect with an 11t or 10t.
    - derailleur adjustment for maximum chain wrap is critical. In the 9t you've got less than 5 teeth making contact with the chain. Wrap issue is accentuated by running the b-screw all the way in (or longer b-screw) to clear the big cog on the cassette. This was a problem with a 36t big cog, but with a 42t cog the amount of b-tension would make chain wrap even less when in the 9t.

    For these reasons, esp. for an adult, you can only really use the 9t as an "overdrive" to cruise along in. If you expect to use the 9t in a big all out sprint to the finish line you're in for some disappointment.

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    That might be true for a Shimano derailleur, but I don't think it will be an issue with a Sram. It already handles a 42t without any adjustment and wraps around the small cog better
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    New 11 Speed Cassette in the making? lets see the range.
    Leonardi Racing 9x42 Cassette 10 speed-new-cassette.jpg

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    Well, I was finally able to place my order today. The Leonardi General Lee 9-42 10 speed cassette is suppose to ship on Monday via Fed Ex. It wasnt cheap though, 319€ plus 30€ shipping. I'll post pics when I get it.
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    Really Bro? Wow that's great, where or how did you order it? I'm ready to buy it from couples week ago, but still nothing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aruman View Post
    Really Bro? Wow that's great, where or how did you order it? I'm ready to buy it from couples week ago, but still nothing
    I contacted them at sales@leonardifactory.es
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    I'v mail Fulvio at that email adress too, he responded my emails, but when I told him that I'm ready to buy the cassette and askes him to give me the order information to order he didn't reply mi no more, don't know if he's a busy man or what. I realy wanto to buy the cassette and the Leonardo Capo Single chainring crankset too, I'll try email them back and see what happens.

    Thanks bro.

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    I had the same issue with initial responses, but then they stopped so I figured they were busy or the cassette was delayed. So I waited awhile then yesterday I left messages on their Face Book asking if they were ever going to sell the cassette. I got a reply telling me they just received shipment and to email him with the my info and he would email me an invoice. I did and he emailed me back with the order invoice. So it seems like they have been busy and the cassette was delayed, but they apparently have them now.
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