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    Enduro BB bearings Who's used them?

    I'm kind of tired of blowing $35 bucks a pop for race face deus bearings. I have two sets so I get to actually blow $70 bucks a year. I was wondering if the enduro standards are any better. I could have a spare sitting on my shelf then too. I'm guessing if a guy is real careful he could do this with a light press? any input is greatly appreciated.

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    I'm using them. They have nice outer seals. so far so good. I was able to install them without the special tools. If I were wrenching for a living I'd get the tool.

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    I'm running these bearings in the XTR shells and they are great. I used their tool to remove the old bearings and to press the new ones in. This is one of the best tools I've used. I would recommend getting one if you are going to be doing the bearings more than once.
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    Life span ??

    Thanks for the speedy replies. I'll probably get some. Would you say they last longer? Were your originals about on par with mine a year or so. How long have the enduros lasted? I might try to make a tool at work for for the first couple. Thanks guys for the input it makes my decision much easier.

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    I ran about 6000 km thru the summer on original Shimano XT BB's.

    I am now at about 4000 km thru the WINTER on Enduro's BB's.

    So at least as good as.

    I have seen some of the seal edge beginning to wear, I think i picked up a bunch of grass and mud, and it wiped the edges.

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    That's not bad

    I think a year for either bike would be less than 2000 miles. Conditions are not terribly dusty or muddy. I don't ride in the winter. I almost wonder if it's worse for them to sit over the winter. Seems like I always notice they need replacing in the spring.

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    Sure sounds like it, is water getting into them somehow? freeze/thaw etc.

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    I've got 'em. They're nice. Also, Enduro has great customer service.

    I kinda mangled the installation a bit...shoulda bought their nice-looking tool.

    But overall, I'd buy them again.
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    It's possible

    There might be an off chance water does get down there but it'd be just from washing about once a week. As for their storage they both stay in my garage which really never gets below 50-55 in the winter. I've thought about putting in a valve but I know I'll never actually drill either one of my frames.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    There might be an off chance water does get down there but it'd be just from washing about once a week. As for their storage they both stay in my garage which really never gets below 50-55 in the winter. I've thought about putting in a valve but I know I'll never actually drill either one of my frames.
    The longest lasting BBs I've had have come after I drill a small hole into the bottom of the BB shell for drainage. After I did that ISIS is even reliable for me... on my winter SS bike.

    I've found most water comes into my BB from washing the bike.

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    Maybe

    MrP you are tempting me. Maybe I should drill. So you skipped the valve thingy and just drill a very small hole. Any downside of doing that?

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    Somewhat OT But...

    What's wrong with the people specing bearings for RF and it sounds like Shimano too?
    You should wear out the crankset before you have to replace a set of cartridge bearings.

    I've got BB's that use plain Jane 6003 cartridges at $5 each ($10per set), that last 10, 15, 20+ years.

    The bearings in my road bike have easily seen 15,000 miles and still spin like day 1
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    I've got a pair installed on my RF Deus crank also and so far they work great. I did psring for the tool as well and now I'm real popular w/ my buddies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    MrP you are tempting me. Maybe I should drill. So you skipped the valve thingy and just drill a very small hole. Any downside of doing that?
    Read this post, and you can decide:
    (MkIII) Bottom Bracket / Drilling Install

    No structural weaknesses from a small hole (IMHO).

    When I did it, I just had the BB out and drilled, none of the pro steps in the write-up.

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    I don't know

    You'd think that between all of the manufacturers that one would be making a real good set of bearings but no. I too have some very old square tapper bb that never had any issues. I wouldn't support this external bb movement but I fell in love with how stiff the feel was.

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    as far as drilling the hole , dont worry about it alot of bikes have a cable guide that screws into the BB shell at just about the same spot. I dont know about RF but shimano external BBs have a plastic tube that snaps into the back of the bearing cups so I doubt that any water in the BB shell could even get into the bearings. plus the cup has about a 1/4" lip , so the BB shell would have to have alot of water in it to even reach. My enduros bearings lasted about 1 1/4 years, no wet riding (well, once or twice) 1 winter season riding (frozen not wet) when I pulled the bearings there was no sign of water in the shell. I think the external seal is where the water gets in, or the grease just wears away after a year or so.
    the Enduro bearings are supposed to have bigger bearings and better grease. and hopefully better seals.

    How come on an external bearing like these they dont put a zirc fitting? then you could regrease and push out the grime as needed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Milkman
    MrP you are tempting me. Maybe I should drill. So you skipped the valve thingy and just drill a very small hole. Any downside of doing that?
    Yes, the Enduro BBs are much better. I was blowing thru ISIS every few months, standard RF/Shimano external BBs every 6-12 months. Enduros have over 12 months and not even starting to feel gritty (have outlasted the frame pivot bearings).

    And definitely drill a small hole. Valve is not necessary. As my LBS owner says here in rainy Oregon, you can either drill a hole in your bb shell or replace your bearings every few months. Without the drain hole, the bb bearings will always be sitting in a muddy water bath.

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    I just got my replacement ceramic cups in the new red. Man they are jewels. Nice job. Thanks. I was running a set of replacment bearsing in a set of Raceface cranks. Very smooth. I sold the bike they were installed on but was very impressed while I had it.

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    are they available in the uk,as i would consider it if they were.

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    Konut, I did find them in the UK, I did a search on Enduro seals, I can't remember who supplied them though.

    However in the end I purchased from the USA direct from Enduro, with the exchange rate they were a lot cheaper than UK prices and postage was very resonable.

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    I have them on my bike as well. So far they seem excellent (but only +/- 100km on them), Customer service is great too. One of my bearings was busted on arrival and Chris sent me a new one almost right away. I live in the Netherlands btw, and shipping was not very expensive ($6) and quite fast (about a week).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Skid Solo
    Konut, I did find them in the UK, I did a search on Enduro seals, I can't remember who supplied them though.

    However in the end I purchased from the USA direct from Enduro, with the exchange rate they were a lot cheaper than UK prices and postage was very resonable.
    thanks skid solo,

    me and a bud are thinking of buying the tool also to save some money in the long run.

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