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    Do I really need a chain keeper?

    Ive been running a 32 tooth Salsa single speed chain ring on my hardtails 1x9 drive train. Ive also been using a bash guard and chain keeper. I disassembled my bike to polish the frame and im liking the uncluttered look without the chain keeper and possibly without the bash guard as well. Being that im using a single speed chain ring and a shortened chain do I need the chain keeper and bash?

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyclesnIPAs View Post
    Ive been running a 32 tooth Salsa single speed chain ring on my hardtails 1x9 drive train. Ive also been using a bash guard and chain keeper. I disassembled my bike to polish the frame and im liking the uncluttered look without the chain keeper and possibly without the bash guard as well. Being that im using a single speed chain ring and a shortened chain do I need the chain keeper and bash?
    If your chain does not drop often enough to bother you, no, additional keepers are needed. I like a bash in any case to protect the ring.

    Should also move your chainline as far inboard as possible.
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    I think that with a standard type derailleur you'll be dropping your chain, even with a hardtail. I recently tried out a clutch type derailleur (Shimano XTR Shadow+) and it does not drop the chain. It does indeed look cleaner on the bike without a chain guide. Given the price of converting to 10 speed, including the price of the derailleur itself, you'll probably learn to like the look of the chain guide...

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    Even with a clutch-type derailleur, you chain will fall off eventually if you ride off-road. How often depends on where and how you ride. For me and most of the guys I ride with, it will fall of at least once per ride (and that's with the clutch). Not acceptable for me. A bash guard will assure that it only falls off to the side opposite the bash. XX1 type chainring and clutch-type der. is required in my experience if you want to run without a keeper.
    Best way to find out? Ride it and see what happens!

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    Quote Originally Posted by giantanthemx0 View Post
    Best way to find out? Ride it and see what happens!
    Thats it.
    I've got one bike that needed a bashwich to keep the chain on. And 2 others that are running SS chainrings and don't have a problem - although I don't ride those bikes much.
    May depend on your terrain - around here, fast rough sections are usually short.

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    I wound up putting the chain keeper back on. Id rather deal with the look than dropped chains. thanks for your input.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CyclesnIPAs View Post
    I wound up putting the chain keeper back on. Id rather deal with the look than dropped chains. thanks for your input.
    Did you try it without the "keeper"?
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    Did you try it without the "keeper"?
    Unfortunately I have not had much time to go riding also I just reassembled the bike after polishing the frame. I did reinstall the chain keeper for now. I may remove it pre-ride and see how it goes.

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