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    Best chain lube?

    What type of chain lube do you all recommend? I've been told that Yelo Velo (X-tra Dry lube and Milky White) makes the best one and I've also been recommended MUC OFF USA (Wet/Dry chain lube). Has anyone used these on their chains? How often should you lube the chain and anywhere else? Ever other ride?

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    Your chain will tell you when it needs to be lubed, the are a ton of lubes out there. In my experience it depends on the conditions that you ride in on how long between lubes. If i am riding in dry dusty conditions and my chain starts squeeking I know I have went to long. I generally lube up every couple of rides if it is dry or else after every wash. I use some of the white lightning products And purple extreme
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    This has nothing to do with the "29er components" forum.....why post it here?
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    I like Rock n Roll Gold.

    I do my chain often (probably every other ride).

    Use as directed ... liberally ... and wipe down. Every once in a while I twist up the paper towel and go between the links.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swerny View Post
    This has nothing to do with the "29er components" forum.....why post it here?
    cuz 26" lube is incompatible

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dan GSR View Post
    cuz 26" lube is incompatible
    I find both White Lightning and Remington teflon gun oil are compatible even with 650b
    Mountain bike with 15k miles, Road bike with 10k miles, breaking in my 29er by riding the entire AZ Trail

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    I use Rock n Roll Extreme

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    Synthetic motor oil. You chose the weight to suit your riding.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rev. 14 View Post
    What type of chain lube do you all recommend? I've been told that Yelo Velo (X-tra Dry lube and Milky White) makes the best one and I've also been recommended MUC OFF USA (Wet/Dry chain lube). Has anyone used these on their chains? How often should you lube the chain and anywhere else? Ever other ride?

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    There is no one best lube....just lubes that work well in your conditions...

    Triflow Teflon works in the summer and dry for me.....Pedro Ice wax surprisingly works well in winter...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffscott View Post
    There is no one best lube....just lubes that work well in your conditions...
    This.

    Ask at your LBS to see what they recommend for your conditions. Local knowledge counts for a lot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Swerny View Post
    This has nothing to do with the "29er components" forum.....why post it here?
    Sorry made a mistake putting it here. Thank you for moving it...

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    The search function should bring up at least a dozen threads with the same subject since it gets regurgitated on a regular basis.

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    I use "K-Y Yours + Mine Couples Lubricant". I apply the blue bottle (his) to the chainring and the purple bottle (hers) on the chain. The lubrication will heighten during peak physical strain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by poowilliams View Post
    I use "K-Y Yours + Mine Couples Lubricant". I apply the blue bottle (his) to the chainring and the purple bottle (hers) on the chain. The lubrication will heighten during peak physical strain.
    I stepped out of line at the drug store to pick some up. It gets warm when they mix.

    The perfect winter lube to keep the chain and jockey wheels from freezing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pisgah View Post
    Synthetic motor oil. You chose the weight to suit your riding.
    I use 10W40. Easy starting in cold weather, and appropriate for high speeds on hot days, too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill in Houston View Post
    I use 10W40. Easy starting in cold weather, and appropriate for high speeds on hot days, too.
    Make fun if you must, but it's the best bang for your buck and it works. Just buy a bottle of Brand "X" bicycle chain lube, and when it's empty refill with syn. motor oil. One quart lasts a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jeffscott View Post
    There is no one best lube....just lubes that work well in your conditions...
    Agreed.

    I currently use Phil's Tenacious Oil for road and paved trails. I used White Lightening for a couple of months in dirt trails, which was great, but I wasn't happy having to reapply it so frequently.

    I, like many others, wish I could have the lube that comes on the chain. Not as sticky as oil and lasts quite a bit longer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pisgah View Post
    Make fun if you must, but it's the best bang for your buck and it works. Just buy a bottle of Brand "X" bicycle chain lube, and when it's empty refill with syn. motor oil. One quart lasts a long time.
    no, i really do use it. sometimes straight, sometimes thinned out a bit.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill in Houston View Post
    no, i really do use it. sometimes straight, sometimes thinned out a bit.
    Nice. My bad.

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    ProGold ProLink.

    OP ... perhaps using the reviews pages would help you decide.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrm1 View Post
    ProGold ProLink.

    OP ... perhaps using the reviews pages would help you decide.
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    I avoid these threads because I have an obvious bias.

    But there's no one chain lube that will work best for everyone. That's because even though chains are basically all the same, outside conditions vary tremendously by area, season, and they type of riding you do. A lube formulated to work best in the clay of the east, may attract too much dust in the dry areas out west.

    There's also the issue of what properties the owner values most, whether he prefers a great looking chain, or to spend less time working on his bike.

    My suggestion is to go the chain lube section of product reviews on this forum, choose the top few rated lubes with a decent number of reviews, than read the reviews focusing on those from reviewers describing riding conditions similar to yours. That should help you narrow down the many choices to a short list of two or three, then try one, and if not pleased try another.

    Most experienced riders have tried a number of lubes before settling on a long term favorite, others have more than one favorite depending on the bike or season.

    So don't expect to pick a winner your first time out, but decide what properties you value and work your way to one that best meets your needs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
    I avoid these threads because I have an obvious bias.

    But there's no one chain lube that will work best for everyone. That's because even though chains are basically all the same, outside conditions vary tremendously by area, season, and they type of riding you do. A lube formulated to work best in the clay of the east, may attract too much dust in the dry areas out west.

    There's also the issue of what properties the owner values most, whether he prefers a great looking chain, or to spend less time working on his bike.

    My suggestion is to go the chain lube section of product reviews on this forum, choose the top few rated lubes with a decent number of reviews, than read the reviews focusing on those from reviewers describing riding conditions similar to yours. That should help you narrow down the many choices to a short list of two or three, then try one, and if not pleased try another.

    Most experienced riders have tried a number of lubes before settling on a long term favorite, others have more than one favorite depending on the bike or season.

    So don't expect to pick a winner your first time out, but decide what properties you value and work your way to one that best meets your needs.
    He said what I said ... only with bigger words !! Great idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FBinNY View Post
    There's also the issue of what properties the owner values most, whether he prefers a great looking chain, or to spend less time working on his bike
    Frank makes a great point here. I use the lube that I do because it is forgiving and lasts a long time and I can just grab the bike and ride without having to worry too often about whether I've lubed it recently. The lube does ok on the looks front too, for me, but it's the longevity that drives the decision for me.

    Back when I was still using various Teflon-based dry lubes, I always made a point to use plain old oil wet lubes on neighbor bikes whenever I worked on them. That was the right choice for my friends who never actually lube their chains themselves. I'd give them the best start that I could by giving them the longest-lasting lube that I could.

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    Dumonde or nothing for me. You will not ever find lube that settles (rock&roll, W.Lightning etc) in my box either.

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    If you like Dumonde lube you will love LillyLube, give it a try. The best lube I have ever used.

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    So I recently started using Squirt on my mountain bike. I use it on my road bike and works well. I figured I'd give it a shot with the new chain.

    I'm getting clumps of gunk on the chainring. In the pic...you can see the clumps of gunk below the teeth. It was worse before. There were chunks before I brushed most of it off. The Squirt leaves a sticky residue behind. It isn't an issue on the road bike, but with the dirt...it just clumps up.

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    I also have the Sram XX1 on my Pivot 429c 29er, you won't get any of that with Lilly Lube. Its very slick without the greasy feel, use it the night before ride wipe it good for best results and great it wet weather!!

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    For the guys using rock n roll lube , it says it cleans the chain if you apply it correctly...do any of y'all still us a chain scrubber , or just keep using the lube and a rag for the life of the chain ?

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    I live and ride in the high desert of SoCal, so think dry and gritty. The solution that works best for me, by keeping the chain lubed, but not overlubed so it collects drivetrain killing gunk everywhere, is a follows.

    After every ride I clean the chain with a dedicated "chain cleaning rag" by running the chain through the rag between my fingers. Then I lock out my RD and remove the chain from the front ring and quickly do the same cleaning for my NW chainring. Doing both takes about 90 seconds.

    Then I put the chain back on, reset my RD and I clean the RD's chainwheels front and back with my finger tip and the same rag. Lastly, I use my Park drivetrain brush to quickly clean the cassette. Doing both takes about 60 seconds.

    Now the chain is ready for lube, and this is what I found is the best way to do it, albeit, not the most economical. I use the large spray can of Tri Flow, and a thick, athletic sock over my hand. I saturate the sock between my thumb and fingers, and then I run the chain through the sock while keeping my hand "twisted" (so the chain zig zags through my thumb & fingers) so the lube gets in between the rollers top & bottom. This takes 30 seconds.

    I let the chain sit for a few minutes while I put the tools away and wash my hands (the worst part of my technique) and then I use a paper towel and run the chain through it, to wipe off the excess lube....... That's 3 minutes and my drivetrain is ready for the next ride.

    My drivetrain shifts like butter, and seems to last forever. My riding buddies are more of the "lube the crap out of it once in a while" type, and they are the ones ALWAYS complaining about their shifting and weird noises, as well as buying new equipment..... Hell, I can't even tell what color their chain, chainrings and cassette are supposed to be, other than the custom 'Kool Gritty Black' they sport every ride.

    I tried the 1 drop per link method, but even that puts too much lube on the chain for my conditions, and it does nothing but gunk up my chainring, cassette and chainwheels.

    I do go through a bit more chainlube per year, but it pays for itself in the long run.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RS VR6 View Post
    So I recently started using Squirt on my mountain bike. I use it on my road bike and works well. I figured I'd give it a shot with the new chain.

    I'm getting clumps of gunk on the chainring. In the pic...you can see the clumps of gunk below the teeth. It was worse before. There were chunks before I brushed most of it off. The Squirt leaves a sticky residue behind. It isn't an issue on the road bike, but with the dirt...it just clumps up.

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    Did you thoroughly clean your chain and gears to remove the old lube a d dirt before applying Squirt? They look pretty dirty to me. I think you will get some wax flecks when using a wax based lube, buy I haven't noticed much, if any any, with Squirt.

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    Chain-L works well for me. Holds up to all kinds of nasty weather/conditions. Makes your drivetrain ninja-quiet. Works best when used correctly and left alone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnD View Post
    For the guys using rock n roll lube , it says it cleans the chain if you apply it correctly...do any of y'all still us a chain scrubber , or just keep using the lube and a rag for the life of the chain ?
    I use the Blue lube and I've also used the Yellow lube they both wash off the loose dirt in the chain but it certainly won't leave it clean. I still degrease my clean after every couple of rides and then re-apply lube. I like the Blue lube a lot better since it seems to pick up less grime and also tends to coat the chain and cassette instead of drip off like the Yellow lube.

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    Quote Originally Posted by matadorCE View Post
    I use the Blue lube and I've also used the Yellow lube they both wash off the loose dirt in the chain but it certainly won't leave it clean. I still degrease my clean after every couple of rides and then re-apply lube. I like the Blue lube a lot better since it seems to pick up less grime and also tends to coat the chain and cassette instead of drip off like the Yellow lube.
    I tend to agree , thanks !

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    The guys should check out Lilly Lube, I was a R&R blue fanatic. The Lilly is better in every way, chain stays cleaner and lube last longer even in water. The only thing about Lilly, it works best when applied the night before. You apply it just like Rock N Roll on my 1x11 system I never use chain scrubber with Lilly Lube, not needed!! I would use it the scrubber the the very 1st time before starting with any new lube.

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    i like this a lot...

    put some on, let it sit over night, wipe off excess in the morning


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    I tend to monitor for sun spots to determine appropriate lubrication of the day. Sometimes I just consult an astrologist.
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    Best I have used is Profi Dry Lube, but I have had trouble ordering this since the shipping restrictions. Been using Boeshield T-9 as replacement which works pretty good, but not as good as the Profi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nauc View Post
    i like this a lot...

    put some on, let it sit over night, wipe off excess in the morning

    That Dumonde Tech lubes well, but man I get a lot of build up on my chain after a couple rides with it. Might be just my dirt here in the Sierra Foothills. I just switched to a dry lube (squirt long lasting dry lube) to give a shot. We'll see in a few months.

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    I sure do like the Dumonde lubricants, but I have never tried this chain lube. Does anyone else have comments on this chain lube?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dgw7000 View Post
    The guys should check out Lilly Lube, I was a R&R blue fanatic. The Lilly is better in every way, chain stays cleaner and lube last longer even in water. The only thing about Lilly, it works best when applied the night before. You apply it just like Rock N Roll on my 1x11 system I never use chain scrubber with Lilly Lube, not needed!! I would use it the scrubber the the very 1st time before starting with any new lube.

    Thanks for the tip. I bought some from fleabay...gonna be using it soon ,still have a little bit of r&r extreme to get rid of first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mrm1 View Post
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    OP ... perhaps using the reviews pages would help you decide.
    I use Prolink on my road bike, and it works well. I've got ~5000 miles on the chain with no measurable stretch. But I find that it evaporates quickly. I basically need to re-lube every 3-4 weeks, independent of mileage. If you ride regularly that's fine, but not what I would recommend for a bike that is infrequently ridden.

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    Hmmm...while I think ProLube is a quality product, my results in dusty, sandy conditions has been far less than desirable.

    Some of the mentioned dry lubricants are superior for the dusty like conditions.

    Very difficult to compare road bike use to mountain bike applications.
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    So I just cleaned my chain off with some simple green and then brushed it and dried it in the sun, came back a little later and put on the Squirt Dry Lube. I can't even tell it is on there, but that chain sure is smooth... i'll update after some rides.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GRAVELBIKE View Post
    Chain-L works well for me. Holds up to all kinds of nasty weather/conditions. Makes your drivetrain ninja-quiet. Works best when used correctly and left alone.
    I have used almost all of these lubes mentioned and I keep going back to Chain-L. It is the longest lasting and seems to be the best at protecting drive train parts. For race days and dry conditions, nothing is better than paraffin wax bath but for everything else, Chain-L is the best.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Live2rideUtah View Post
    Your chain will tell you when it needs to be lubed
    If your chain is telling you something it will already be too late!

    The best lube is the stuff that comes on the chain when it's new. After that you are forever playing catchup. What kind of lube you use seems less important than the fact you do actually lube it. Once the honeymoon period is over I take the chain off the bike to clean and lube it regularly but It only prolongs their life a little I reckon.

    Chains are not expensive. When it starts to show even slight wear just bin the thing and fit a new one. Your gears will thank you.

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    I have tried many chain lubes over the years and never found one that I loved. Currently I am using Squirt, and my early impressions are positive although I don't have a lot of miles on it yet. As I was browsing this thread I noticed Lilly Lube mentioned a couple of times so I did a quick search on it, and Lilly has a link to a magazine test. The test seems to actually be a stronger testament to Squirt's benefits than Lilly's, and lo and behold Squirt has the same test linked on their site. I think I will stick with Squirt for a while and see if it lives up to my early impressions. A note about Squirt, starting with a clean chain is very important. Probably important when trying any new lube, but if it really is the best stuff going you wouldn't want to compromise it by a poor initial application.

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    The worlds best chain lube will absolutely blow if used incorrectly, I think it's one of those things where the application is generally much more important than the actual product.

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    Chain maintenance seems to be a widely different practice. Everyone seems to deal with this differently. Generally speaking, I tend to place considerable emphasis on preventive maintenance. I try to wipe down the chain after all rides and lube appropriately. Then before the next days ride, I wipe off as much residual lube as possible and ride (to avoid dust attraction). Repeating the process after most all rides.

    I tend to buy high end chains (Shimano XTR M981) and they usually last me a full season (3,500 to 3,800 miles) depending on conditions. They are cheaper than cassettes and chain rings. Contrary to Mr Pig's claim, I don't find my choice of chains to be particularly cheap. A subjective term I suppose depending on one's choice of allocating scarce resources (disposable income).

    We know that the conditions we ride in probably has the most profound effect on chains tempered by how we maintain those chains. I don't tend to ride muddy or wet conditions. Several shallow creek crossings on generally dry to dusty trail conditions per ride are the norm. So given my conditions, I feel the dirt and dust is the most detrimental factor in my chain wear and thus my selection of appropriate lubricant. Hence, the daily wipe down and lube.

    So, as a result of my riding conditions (usually more dusty), I tend to use lubricants with more wax and less pure oil-based lubricants. I have tried most all of the high-end quality chain lubes and for the moment, I have settled with Rock n Roll Red (Absolute) or Blue (Extreme). Red for the most dusty conditions and Red for slightly moister trails. For me, I have found the Rock n Roll Yellow to be better suited to wetter conditions (leaning towards more oil-based and less wax). And. I find the same true for ProGold (ProLink). I believe these last mentioned are high-quality lubricants, but I feel better suited for wetter riding conditions. For my general trail conditions, I find the more oil-based chain lubes to attract dust and dirt more than I prefer.

    I have wanted to try the Dumonde chain lubricants, but have not yet. I believe this is Customfab's lubricant of choice. As an example of opinions, Customfab is clearly not an advocate of Rock n Roll chain lubes because they settle (wax settling from the general lubricants). I would be interested in his expanding on that thought.

    And like JB mentioned above, the best lubes are null and void if used incorrectly. Generous application of a lower quality product is prolly better than liberal use of a high-quality product. Make your own decisions and don't be afraid to try different approaches. To each his own.
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