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    For all I try I cannot get into first with new Der.

    I received a new X9 in the mail last night to replace a busted X5.
    After installing the new X9 I cant get into first. It works falwlessly from 2 to 8 but I cant pop it to 1st. The L screw is as far as it can go and the cable is as tight as it can be.

    What could the problem be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by LandoCommando
    The L screw is as far as it can go and the cable is as tight as it can be.

    What could the problem be?
    Are you thinking of first gear being the big cog or the smallest cog?

    Is the screw as far in or as far out as it can go? Screwing the L screw in moves the limit towards the dropout, screwing it out lets it move toward the spokes.
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    First gear being the biggest cog. (Is first gear not always the big one?)
    And the L screw is all the way out so it cant even even touch the contact point.

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    For all I try I cannot get into first with new Der.
    Have you tried a couple glasses of wine and some quiet conversation?

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    Maybe your derailier hanger is bent out of alignment far enough that the limit screw can not correct for it? You did report that your old derailier was busted.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kmacon
    Maybe your derailier hanger is bent out of alignment far enough that the limit screw can not correct for it? You did report that your old derailier was busted.
    Ive got horizontal drop outs and no hanger.

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    Another thing to check is something that gets overlooked quite often when installing a new rear der.
    Sometimes the shifter is clicked in one gear when installing. So you are actually in 2nd gear or 8th (depending on how you look at it) when taking up the slack in the cable.

    Start over.
    shift all the way down to the smallest cog, and push the shifter in a couple clicks to make sure it is all the way down.
    Loosen the cable pinch bolt. Retake up the slack and tighten the bolt.
    See if that fixes you up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LandoCommando
    Ive got horizontal drop outs and no hanger.
    If you have no derailleur hanger how did you mount the derailleur on the frame?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LandoCommando
    Ive got horizontal drop outs and no hanger.
    I'm confused, how are you attaching the derailleur to the bike then?

    Savagemann makes a good point about the shifter position...I think we all have done something like that at one point or another - usually after a few brewskis
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    before even connecting the shifter cable and putting on a chain you should be setting the high and low limits. make sure that's right before going any further.

    not sure how you're mounting it up with no hanger either.
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    FWIW, Lando has a hanger...It's just the axle bolt-on type.
    here's a pic from this thread about the broken mech.


    (LC, I took the liberty of posting this in the hopes it helps you out a bit more)
    Some pics of your current situation would help too.
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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    Quote Originally Posted by highdelll
    I'm confused, how are you attaching the derailleur to the bike then?
    I lied I have a hanger but its straight as an arrow

    Your good Highdell

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    Quote Originally Posted by LandoCommando
    I lied I have a hanger but its straight as an arrow

    Your good Highdell

    Yeahhh, that's the ticket. That's right, I lied, I have a hanger. What's it to ya? Thaat's riightt...that's it. (channel Jon Lovitz on SNL).
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    Quote Originally Posted by savagemann
    Start over.
    shift all the way down to the smallest cog, and push the shifter in a couple clicks to make sure it is all the way down.
    Loosen the cable pinch bolt. Retake up the slack and tighten the bolt.
    See if that fixes you up.
    Did this and did not fix the problem

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    Can you shift it manually? (physically shift it by pressing on the parallelogram?)

    Watch your fingers when you do it!!
    Honestly... ahh I give up

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