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    What is a "Slopestyle" bike?

    So as you all know im looking for a slopestyle/jump bike that isn't a hardtail. After some looking around, some of the best looking slopestyle bikes, weren't even really "slopestyle" bikes. What i mean is, when i look, there are bikes deemed "slopestyle" bikes, and other bikes like xc/all mountain bikes. The deemed "slopestyle" bikes are like the kona bass (still might get one soon) and the haro porter, the corsair konig, and the Intense slopestyle. After looking the coolest bike i saw was a Giant trace made slopestyle. The seat was dropped and it had a burlier fork, and a fox dhx 5.0 air on it, and it looked ready to jump and flip. Upon further investigation i realized that Kurt Sorge's slopestyle bike is an 09 giant trance. After realizing that i looked at all the major bike companies 4-5" travel AM/XC bikes, and imagined a lower seat and some better components on them. The good bikes i found were:

    Trek Fuel EX (4")
    Trek Remedy (5")
    Giant Trance (the toptube is funny on the 2011, but 10 and older look good)
    Gary Fisher Roscoe (5" i think)
    Marin Mount Vision (5" methinks)

    And other technically "All Mountain/Cross Country" bikes? If you drop the seat, add some better components, re-route the brake cables and shifters, changed the wheelset and tires, couldn't most 4-5" travel bikes work as "slopestyle bikes?"
    Looking for technical slopestyle designed bikes kinda limits me, but if other bikes, like the Fuel EX (its really pretty) would work, then it really opens up some options.

    Bottom line: would you ride a slopestyleized Am/Xc bike? or would you only ride a slopestyle specific bike?

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    Heres some pics to show what i'm saying

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    some freeride bikes can be good slopestyle bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moosey
    Bottom line: would you ride a slopestyleized Am/Xc bike? or would you only ride a slopestyle specific bike?
    I don't know about you, but I ride nowhere as smooth as any of these pros and do not trust a "slopestyleized" XC bike to hold up to the constant cased landings and general hack riding that I do. If you're smooth, go for it.

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    Those sponsored pros get their frames replaced when they break. They also bottom the hell out of them on most landings. Watching Colorado Crankworx I felt bad for their bikes. You should stick to frames marketed as slopestyle or freeride since they're burlier. My SS bike is a medium Bullit (I normally ride large) with TALAS36 so I can change it's geo for dirt jumping or freeride trails.
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    i'm just guessing here...but I think a key point is the head tube angle.
    Many XC / AM bikes have a steeper head tube angle...say 68, 69, 70 degrees.
    I would guess a true slope style frame is much slacker...65, 66 degrees?
    Slacker makes the jumps, drops and "flowy" runs much nicer....
    Just my opinion.

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    There are many small bikes out there that are really just XC bikes. Sure they'll take a few runs and a few bad hits but they just won't be able to take that abuse day after day.

    My all time favorite bike was a 575, but I decided to sell it before it broke. I could feel it flexing and bottoming in ways it shouldn't. I suggest better to get a light big bike (like an Uzzi VP) and make it small.
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    I would think something like a Giant Reign X would be more of a slopestyle than a Trance they are more freeride oriented and could take they abuse.


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    you guys know that giant actually makes a "slopestyle" version of the reign. its called the SX.

    single ring with guide/bash, short range cassette, coil shock, etc. etc. fantastic bike.


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    Just because Sorge is on a Trance, doesn't mean it's a stock frame. E.g. it may have been adapted for his riding style with any number of modifications. Certainly geometry, maybe tube thickness and design. It could be stock, but as mentioned, pros get new frames whenever they need them. To insinuate that the trail bikes you listed are appropriate for big drops on a regular basis is ludicrous. Dropping the seat doesn't make an XC bike a slopestyle bike.
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    I think most everyone here is confused on what a true Slopestyle bike is. I think you are all confused due to the way bikes are marketed. You never see bikes like a the transition bottlerocket, Intense Slopestyle, or any other bike people market as slopestyle bikes actually being used in slopestyle competitions these days.

    In some cases people just use Hardtails but when they don't they use 3-5" travel bikes with 80-120mm forks. They are low with good standover. they typically have 67-69 degree HA. Think Crankworx. It has some of the biggest drops/jumps offered in a competition. It is a true slopestyle comp. You don't see people riding slack 6-7 inch travel bikes anymore.

    Here is a list of true slopestyle bikes

    Banshee rampant
    Transition double
    Kona Bass
    Corsair konig
    blck mrkt killswitch
    specialized SX (not trail)
    dobermann le pink
    intense trazer (although maybe more 4x)
    haro porter
    One ghost industries (can't remember the name of it)
    Atomlab trailking FS

    Pretty much any bike that jumps somewhat like a hardtail but has enough squish to take the edge of harsh landings.

    And to the OP, most of the time you see pro's on what look like a companies XC bike but in reality its a custom made frame. I believe cam mccaul's and brandon S's remedies are only 4-5" of travel and have custom really low seat tubes wheras remedies usually have about 6' of travel. On top of this i wouldn't doubt that they are made with stronger tubing.

    And like others have mentioned, if they break a frame they will get a new one free. You won't have that luxury. Just buy right the first time and we won't have to hear about how "some company sucks cause their XC frame broke of my janky jumps"

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    Quote Originally Posted by climbingbubba
    I think most everyone here is confused on what a true Slopestyle bike is. I think you are all confused due to the way bikes are marketed.
    very true. if you actually watch a slopestyle competition youl notice actually most everyone has a different bike. some short travel hardtails, some long, some are riding 4-6 inch fs bikes.
    i like my porter as it feels more like a mtb when im jumping really fast and its got just enough travel to where im comfortable doing big jumps. id actually be scared like crazy to do what i do but on a 6" bike.maybe thats my bmx backround kicking in though.

    my personal definition of a slopestlye bike would have to include: short travel front & rear, slack headtube, short top tube,light enough to comfortably 'flick,... along that line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veloreality
    very true. if you actually watch a slopestyle competition youl notice actually most everyone has a different bike. some short travel hardtails, some long, some are riding 4-6 inch fs bikes.
    i like my porter as it feels more like a mtb when im jumping really fast and its got just enough travel to where im comfortable doing big jumps. id actually be scared like crazy to do what i do but on a 6" bike.maybe thats my bmx backround kicking in though.

    my personal definition of a slopestlye bike would have to include: short travel front & rear, slack headtube, short top tube,light enough to comfortably 'flick,... along that line.
    Also, the bikes will have a lower standover height and the rear triangles are a little more reinforced.

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    lower travel bike....more for flowing rolling jumps....and able to sprint pedal

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    my old wildcard.. slopestyle/freeride.


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    nice wildcard! i should have added that to my list. I wanted to build one up last year and run it in the 5" travel mode and run a fox float 36 lowered to 5". would have been a killer SS/jump bike.

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    not in photo, talas 32, race face atlas bars, chris king wheels. also when im jumping my seat is only up abou 2".

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    if you think you are as smooth as a pro and can get as many frames as you need then sure get a xc bike and "slopestyle" it. trek riders are on modified remedy's i think. but there a ton of good dedicated ss bikes out there: specialized sx, transition double, blk mrkt killswitch, haro porter (have fun finding one), jamis parker, banshee rampant, intense tracer, mongoose nuget... the list goes on. point is dont bastardize a xc bike an expect good results.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-kul
    haro porter (have fun finding one)
    i think most shops just werent able to stock them because theyre such a specialty bike. they were available up untill recent and they were actually on sale. me and a co worker bought one. sometimes you just have to ask

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    Quote Originally Posted by veloreality
    i think most shops just werent able to stock them because theyre such a specialty bike. they were available up untill recent and they were actually on sale. me and a co worker bought one. sometimes you just have to ask
    huh i heard they were a pro issue with only a few available for public sale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by b-kul
    huh i heard they were a pro issue with only a few available for public sale.
    from what i understood was they marketed the bike as 'a limited pro edition bike' mostly to hype it up. i may be wrong, but the full 2011 line is currently in stock (all three porter models) and the porter pro is the same as the 2010 model.

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    I am was kinda confused with what a Slopestyle bike was, and thats why i asked =] thanks for clearing most of this up for me. I will keep trying to get that kona bass i was looking at, but haro porters seem like swell options as well. I dont want this bike to break on my janky jumps.

    How would a haro shift be? Theres one in a store about an hour away from me for 600 with the air shock.

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    Quote Originally Posted by veloreality
    from what i understood was they marketed the bike as 'a limited pro edition bike' mostly to hype it up. i may be wrong, but the full 2011 line is currently in stock (all three porter models) and the porter pro is the same as the 2010 model.
    oh i see. i was only familiar with the first gen one.

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    the haro shift is a very simila frame design as the porter. angles are still very different, headtubes not as slack... actually last year at work we built up a previous years shift xs frame with a 100mm dj fork and it was our grocery getter untill it sold. it was alot of fun to huck around and had similar slopestyle feelings to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moosey
    I am was kinda confused with what a Slopestyle bike was, and thats why i asked =] thanks for clearing most of this up for me. I will keep trying to get that kona bass i was looking at, but haro porters seem like swell options as well. I dont want this bike to break on my janky jumps.

    How would a haro shift be? Theres one in a store about an hour away from me for 600 with the air shock.
    keep riding the M-1 and save your cash....master the one bike then start looking at other bikes for what your style is going to be.....for your janky jumps the extra travel helps

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    Diamondback Dreamliner. Single speed at that!
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    Sorge runs a giant faith if i am not mistaken

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Beater
    Sorge runs a giant faith if i am not mistaken
    He does for big mountain stuff, but when hes doing slopestyle he uses a trance.

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    Those DB's are good looking. The single speed contrapsion is the chain run through a derailuer and then zip-tied to the frame. Bearclaw did it for the Crankworks SS contest. Might try in on mine someday.

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    that green db is stupidly awesome.

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    One thing to keep in mind that most Slopestyle or 4x type bikes have a lower bottom bracket than most trail or freeride type bikes. This helps with cornering but at the expense of the occasional pedal hit to the ground. It helps if you run shorter cranks but I've always had 175's and learned to live with the problem. My old Blur 4x would hit all the time and my current Intense SS ocasianally.

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    Sorge runs either a Faith or a Glory in Follow Me when he's hitting slopestyle jumps. I honestly think it's a matter of personal preference, what bike fits you best onthe terrain you'll be riding. Paul Basagoitia doesn't always use his pro model. Often, he's on a hardtail when the tracks are well manicured SS courses. When it gets rougher, or the drops get bigger, I've seen pics of him on everything up to and including full on FR bikes.

    Moosey, It seems to me that with the riding you've posted at places like Northstar, you'd probably be happier if you had a lighter DH or FR bike. A smaller travel SS bike would probably be just fine for your janky jump sessions, but you'd be left wanting pretty badly if you took it to N* and tried to pound a dh run on it. If I were you, I'd go for a Faith or Glory, build it up with a burly but light-ish single crown and a big coil in back. A do everything ride that still can jump well.

    This is, of course, assuming you're looking for a 'one bike to ride them all' kind of bike, and not looking to get a quiver going.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Moosey
    He does for big mountain stuff, but when hes doing slopestyle he uses a trance.
    I highly doubt that a professional rider is using a trailbike for SS competitions, but I don't know for sure.

    Regardless, even if Jesus himself were riding SS on a huffy with a flat tire and a loose headset, I wouldn't recommend it for you.

    Based on other posts, you are still learning and progressing. You need a tough, versatile bike. Not a specific SS bike that has one and only one purpose. Not a trailbike (or slopstylized trailbike) frame that is not designed for the punishment of casing jumps and crashed landings.

    If you like Giant, the Reign X is hard to beat for a tough do-anything bike. Like someone else mentioned, I think they have a Reign SX if you really want a shorter, firmer rear end.

    Other good options are the transition bottlerocket for a solid all-around ride or a Specialized SX or SX Trail.

    Lots of other good options around, these are the first few that come to mind. To answer your first question-what is a slopestyle bike? It is a shorter-travel freeride bike meant for groomed runs, competitions, and may be OK for dual-slalom or 4x racing. The frame, fork, cranks, hadlebars should be able to take a beating (especially if you are still learning). Low standover height for tricks. Between the frame and geometry, it probably won't be great for regular trail riding and if you go to a bike park, it would be best suited to groomed runs rather than the gnarlier stuff.

    If all you want to do is jump, and you don't want a mid-long travel freeride bike, maybe consider a hardtail like Specialized P bikes or a voltage.... certainly should be found used for cheaper than a full-sus.

    Get yourself a used bike in good condition to learn on. As you progress, you will learn more about what qualities YOU want in a bike rather than just looking at what some professional rider uses.
    You better just go ahead and drop that seatpost down to the reflector... the trail gets pretty rough down there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NorKal
    One thing to keep in mind that most Slopestyle or 4x type bikes have a lower bottom bracket than most trail or freeride type bikes. This helps with cornering but at the expense of the occasional pedal hit to the ground. It helps if you run shorter cranks but I've always had 175's and learned to live with the problem. My old Blur 4x would hit all the time and my current Intense SS ocasianally.
    good point.

    the porter came with 165mm but i prefer 175mm and have no issues.

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    this thread hurts my head... Competition slopestyle bikes are short travel, stiff and flickable bikes. Think of a short travel dj bike. Specialized SX, Transition Double, Norco 4X, Corsair Koenig...

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    Quote Originally Posted by OffCamber
    The single speed contrapsion is the chain run through a derailuer and then zip-tied to the frame. Bearclaw did it for the Crankworks SS contest. Might try in on mine someday.
    I don't think the pro's are running ziptied rear der's. The whole point of running a tensioner like that is to allow the rear der to move to compensate for the chain growth.

    There are a few companies that make single speed specific tensioners for full suspension bikes like YESS, Rohloff (my favorite but pricey), and even shimano (alfine).

    Way lighter and a lot less ghetto than running a modified rear der.

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    Ok. so i talked to eric porter (hes really cool) about his old haro shift. He said that he ran it in crankworx a while back, and its what zink used to ride to. Haros website has it listed ass an xc/am bike though. I may be able to get a shift r3 for 500-600 (theres some at a nearby sports store).Did the shift used to be a ss bike, but get converted to a xc bike? or are they still strong ss-esque frames

    http://www.harobikes.com/mtb/bikes/X...Suspension/17/

    heres one i'm looking at.

    http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/736246/

    the other issue is that im 6' tall with a fairly long inseam. will a 16" frame be too short? or will this be better?

    I will probably do a little trail riding (not very much at all though) some drops and rougher jumps on my ss (maybe ht dj) bike. if i take it to Northstar i will hit the jump park and livewire at most. Does anyone know how strong the shift frame is?

    Another cool option (but the one i would want less) is get a norco 4hun dj bike, but heres the kicker: it comes with an old (02-04) marzocchi drop off and a dj fork, so i could put the drop off on my m1 and the dj fork on it. The drop off fork is pretty busted up, but the guys says he just had it rebuild, so everything is running perfect.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moosey
    Ok. so i talked to eric porter (hes really cool) about his old haro shift. He said that he ran it in crankworx a while back, and its what zink used to ride to. Haros website has it listed ass an xc/am bike though. I may be able to get a shift r3 for 500-600 (theres some at a nearby sports store).Did the shift used to be a ss bike, but get converted to a xc bike? or are they still strong ss-esque frames

    http://www.harobikes.com/mtb/bikes/X...Suspension/17/

    heres one i'm looking at.

    http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/736246/

    the other issue is that im 6' tall with a fairly long inseam. will a 16" frame be too short? or will this be better?

    I will probably do a little trail riding (not very much at all though) some drops and rougher jumps on my ss (maybe ht dj) bike. if i take it to Northstar i will hit the jump park and livewire at most. Does anyone know how strong the shift frame is?

    Another cool option (but the one i would want less) is get a norco 4hun dj bike, but heres the kicker: it comes with an old (02-04) marzocchi drop off and a dj fork, so i could put the drop off on my m1 and the dj fork on it. The drop off fork is pretty busted up, but the guys says he just had it rebuild, so everything is running perfect.
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    moosey it seems like u dnt no what u want at all and i wouldnt buy either bikes thst haro on the website looks a dedicated xc bike jus save ur money and keep ur m1 theres nothing wrong with it
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    http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/736246/

    ^That thing is a serious turd.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Berkley
    http://www.pinkbike.com/buysell/736246/

    ^That thing is a serious turd.

    Did you notice the drive train? I wonder how much travel you get before the chain snaps.

    That's Pinkbike in a nutshell right there.
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    if you are serous about getting a short travel ss bike cheap get a parker at jenson for closeout and single speed it. that would be bad ass.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moosey
    the other issue is that im 6' tall with a fairly long inseam. will a 16" frame be too short? or will this be better?
    For a dj/ ss bike, don't worry about seat tube length. Look at top tube length to see if it'll fit you. You can always throw a 410mm post in it if you want to sit and pedal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DJ Giggity
    Did you notice the drive train? I wonder how much travel you get before the chain snaps.

    That's Pinkbike in a nutshell right there.
    pump the shock up to 300psi and run it till it blows

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    heres a very cool link
    http://blogs.bikemag.com/news/an-ins...pestyle-bikes/
    slopestlye has so many revolutionary trates to it as far as components and set ups. so awesome!

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    i'm just gonna jump in here and endorse the idea of not buying either of those haros, or any of those treks and giants in your first post. with that said, i have seen some remedys that guys have set up as ss/am rigs and they ride and jump quite nice. but it sounds like you want something for slopestyle before a trail bike.

    i would highly recommend saving your money up and buying something that needs no mods and you wont have to worry about being laughed at cruising around on a ghetto rigged cross-slopestyle-country frankencycle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by climbingbubba
    I don't think the pro's are running ziptied rear der's. The whole point of running a tensioner like that is to allow the rear der to move to compensate for the chain growth.

    There are a few companies that make single speed specific tensioners for full suspension bikes like YESS, Rohloff (my favorite but pricey), and even shimano (alfine).

    Way lighter and a lot less ghetto than running a modified rear der.
    I thought it was odd myself but have a look.
    http://video.mpora.com/watch/zgB1WIbEl/

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