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    Versus Weapon-X ?

    anyone tried it?
    it is dh race worthy?
    frame not flexy?

    would it feel like a world of a difference coming from my bighit?


    I'm definitely thinking about it...especially for the price

    http://www.versuscycles.com/weaponx_detail.html

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    Knowing Versus? No way it's going to be flexy with the needle bearings and the solid constructions... That said, look into the Trigger... Unless you're hucking 50 foot drops, the Weapon X is probably too much bike for you... That said, i also think the Trigger has a better all round geometry. Better for more styles of riding and not just straight out FR

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    the trigger costs way more compared to the weapon
    + the shock set-up is similar to Kona's, and i don't like the way it feels

    is the weapon more of an extreme hucker..... or dh race machine?

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    I still can't figure out where Versus lies. Is it a lower end, mid, or high end/quality company?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomasmunka63@hotmail.com
    the trigger costs way more compared to the weapon
    + the shock set-up is similar to Kona's, and i don't like the way it feels

    is the weapon more of an extreme hucker..... or dh race machine?
    there's a lot more to just how a design looks. It's all about pivot placement. Herb has it down with the setup for sure. They're plush and will flatten out the gnar and the stiff rear end lets it rails the corners. I think the extra $300 isnt that much when you consider the amount of riding options you'll be given...

    Looks to me like the Weapon X is more of an FR machine. Dont think it's a DH race machine at all...

    Versus has not really produced any DH bikes. They market more to Slopestyle and FR. But there are sources out there which say that Herb is working on a DH bike he's launching next year if you can wait...

    He even mentions it at the end of this video


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    i think ill give em a call about when the dh bike might come out....

    i wanna sell my bighit in october-november, and get a new bike built up around the same time

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    I like Versus as a company, but their Weapon X is a complete miss in the DH Market. Its ridiculously heavy, thus un-raceable in my opinion. The design is very similar to a Chumba F5, which can be built at very light weight (37 lbs).

    The Weapon X is too much bike for anyone. The Trigger is a flat out FR bike despite what others say, the geo is not dialed for high speed downhill.

    I would definitely look elsewhere.
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    Similar to the F5? No way! The weapon x is a Lawwill style rearend with a dogbone link. F5 is a single pivot dogbone link.

    If you want a DH frame look at DH frames.

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    Lawill? Have you ever seen a real Lawill? If anything, it's more similar to Rocky's old Thrustlink designs.

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    Sure have. The shock just attaches differently maybe because of patent infringement on the versus.

    Two parallel long links attached at the end by perpendicular links



    but whatever, I don't want to derail this thread.

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    nope
    its a lawill
    i had a profile dr1
    the pivot wraps around the bb, and how the axle attaches to that rear plate, actually the frame looks almost identical to the dr-1, same weight too *thumbs down*

    http://www.picturetrail.com/sfx/album/view/7321301

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    The weapon x is an old bike, its not even being produced anymore and is technically out of the line up. They just need to update their website, thats all. It will be replaced with a dh specific bike.

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    16" BB height? Wow.

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    The weapon X I pedaled around at Sea Otter a couple years ago was crap. Way too heavy, pedaled like poo, and the suspension didn't really feel all that great. I'd say it's definately more of a freeride/huck bike instead of a dh sled.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    Lawill? Have you ever seen a real Lawill? If anything, it's more similar to Rocky's old Thrustlink designs.
    With the exception of the Rotec RL9, the weapon X is the closest rendition of what Mert Lawwill originally intended. i.e. a concentric pivot.

    Main difference between the Rotec and the Weapon X is the Rotec has a full floating shock and is a licensed Lawill design. The Weapon X is not Lawwill licensed.

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    I think the confusion lies in how things were worded. I thought the f5 was being referenced as the Lawill design, not the Versus, which appears to be very close.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jerk_Chicken
    I think the confusion lies in how things were worded. I thought the f5 was being referenced as the Lawill design, not the Versus, which appears to be very close.
    That makes more sense.

    Agreed, the F5 is nothing like a Lawwill. About the only thing they have in common is they're both rear suspension bikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NoManerz
    Similar to the F5? No way! The weapon x is a Lawwill style rearend with a dogbone link. F5 is a single pivot dogbone link.

    If you want a DH frame look at DH frames.
    Hmm...Okay.

    I just thought they were at least in the same ballpark in terms of design, wasn't going for patent wars.
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    any leaks on a versus dh bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thomasmunka63@hotmail.com
    any leaks on a versus dh bike?
    Talk to Dognfr, he usually has the scoop, hes good friends with herb.

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