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    Bonking ... not feelin' well torn MCL, torn PCL, torn meniscus, torn heart...

    Busted myself up good at Whistler with the most retarded crash ever...last possible jump on the mountain, on my last run of the day.. go figure huh?

    goodbye downhill MTB

    time to go see the Ortho, sigh. ...anyone want to buy a 2011 Demo?

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    worst luck ever. lol sorry.

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    You can be back at it in 6 months or less.
    You can be riding again sooner than you think and then you can get back to hard riding and big jumps/drops when you are ready.
    Big risk of reinjury if you fcuk something up early on in the rehab process, but once the legs are strong again you are good to go.
    Rehab will be a different sort of project, but you can come back a better rider from those injuries.
    6 months +/- and you'll be physically strong enough to take the hits again.

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    Don't sell the bike just yet.

    So I had a torn MCL, torn ACL, complete removal of the meniscus.

    6 weeks cast, 6 weeks non-weight bearing. Physical therapy for 3 months = back riding in 6 month, full on in a year.

    Go in with the mentality that your going to crush PT and you will be back riding before you know it.

    Keep you head up

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    dont quit. you are a beast of a rider

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    Sorry to hear. I had a diffrent injury and was out of Dh for 6-7 months. It went by alot quicker than I thought it would and I'm now back on the DH bike, feeling alive again. Stay positive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ustemuf View Post
    Busted myself up good at Whistler with the most retarded crash ever...last possible jump on the mountain, on my last run of the day.. go figure huh?

    goodbye downhill MTB

    time to go see the Ortho, sigh. ...anyone want to buy a 2011 Demo?
    Sounds like a familiar story I told not to long ago. Someone on the forums said,"one last run usually means a trip to the ER". SO NOW I DON'T SAY THAT!
    Be happy it's just one ACL, I did both ACL's. Terminal knee extensions will be your best friend. It's the only exercise that you can feel pulling your knee cap back into alignment, and it feels great during the early phase of rehab after surgery.
    Something else, don't settle for anything less than CTI braces when it's time to get back on the DH bike. Don't let your Doc talk you into Donjoy braces for DH because they have a in house rep.at his office. See if your med coverage is by medical necessity, It makes a huge difference when it come to getting gear that can be covered by prescription.
    How rude I'm I ......healing vibes coming achew.
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    Sorry to hear this, speedy healing.

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    C'mon now, you know it's not like you to give up that easy!
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    hey dude, sorry to hear that. just a few thoughts based on my own experience with orthopedic surgeons:

    -make sure you get at minimum 2, and maybe even 3 opinions from ortho's---you want a more conservative, experienced doc that doesn't resort to surgery immediately (i broke my arm pretty badly once, w/ significant damage to the connective tissue in the elbow joint---first 2 docs wanted to operate asap, the third doc recommended a splint and PT)
    -ask a LOT of questions until you feel you have the information you need to make an informed decision
    -are the ligaments completely torn? avulsed? is there some chance that they can heal with due care w/o an invasive procedure?

    another example: my buddy is an orthopedic surgeon (he had his own practice on the peninsula), and made a few bad moves in a really aggressive game of pickup basketball. he was absolutely sure that he had completely torn his ACL and would require surgery. well, once he had an MRI done, and reviewed the images, it was mainly intact, and would be ok w/ a combo of rest and PT.

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    I wouldn't give up so easily though. Although I've never had a torn MCL and PCL, I have had a torn meniscus and I was lucky enough to recover for it fully. It doesn't even give me an trouble on long "all-mountain" rides.

    Hope this isn't a career ending injury man, get well soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ustemuf View Post
    Busted myself up good at Whistler with the most retarded crash ever...last possible jump on the mountain, on my last run of the day.. go figure huh?

    goodbye downhill MTB

    time to go see the Ortho, sigh. ...anyone want to buy a 2011 Demo?
    So sorry, man. Where did it happen?

    I had an ugly crash at the entrance to the Boneyard a couple weeks back. Thankfully, didn't tear or break anything, mostly a lot of bruising and road rash. It was also stoopid. I tried to huck where I shoulda rolled, and roll where I shoulda hucked. Stoopid.

    Btw, there is never a "last run of the day." I'm always gonna do just "one more."

    Hope you get well soon...

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    Speedy recovery man ! That's how my downhill season ended this year too ... Last run , last jump :/ ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ustemuf View Post
    Busted myself up good at Whistler with the most retarded crash ever...last possible jump on the mountain, on my last run of the day.. go figure huh?

    goodbye downhill MTB

    time to go see the Ortho, sigh. ...anyone want to buy a 2011 Demo?
    I know how ya feel, even though I don't do nearly the stuff you do. I also had the stupidest crash at Angle Fire last week, trying to scrub a table at high speed that had a boot'r on the front of it. We all knows what happens when your to neutral on body position. Anyways landed REALLY hard and broke my clavicle. So badly that I'm having surgery Friday to put it back together with titanium.

    I thought a lot about the same things. Sell my bike, stop riding like a kid that has no responsibilities, etc, etc. I could use the money from selling my bike to help pay the deductible on my insurance, but I figure I'll regret that later. I just need to be smarter about the way I ride, and slow my roll on the newer gnarly stuff. Ease into things...

    Don't get overly reactive to the situation, and give it some time before getting rid of what you love.

    Healing vibes to ya!!
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    Meere flesh wound! You'll be back by next season again for opening day.

    I was riding with SMT one time and a hiker knocked the top of his head off with a hiking pole, and his brain went flying out, it landed in the dirt and quivered like a beached jelly fish. I urinated on it to wash all the dirt of it, slapped back in his head, flipped his top back on, and he good to go. Funny thing is he never shut up during the whole ordeal. I don't think he even knew what went down.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tim F. View Post
    Meere flesh wound! You'll be back by next season again for opening day.

    I was riding with SMT one time and a hiker knocked the top of his head off with a hiking pole, and his brain went flying out, it landed in the dirt and quivered like a beached jelly fish. I urinated on it to wash all the dirt of it, slapped back in his head, flipped his top back on, and he good to go. Funny thing is he never shut up during the whole ordeal. I don't think he even knew what went down.
    hahaha, should have spit and polished it also.
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    What quit DH? Don't give up, your body will heal
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    Sorry to hear it - injury is no fun.

    Like others said, find a good doc, focus on PT, and get digging on the trails when you're up to it. Nothing like a shovel, pickaxe, and clippers to help rehab and build some positive trail karma.

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    Man that sucks, you were on a tear this year.

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    healing vibes...6 months and riding again...back up to speed in 9 months....do rehab and start doing weights in gym...the key is low weight and sets of 25....yes 25
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    Quote Originally Posted by Swell Guy View Post
    So sorry, man. Where did it happen?

    I had an ugly crash at the entrance to the Boneyard a couple weeks back. Thankfully, didn't tear or break anything, mostly a lot of bruising and road rash. It was also stoopid. I tried to huck where I shoulda rolled, and roll where I shoulda hucked. Stoopid.

    Btw, there is never a "last run of the day." I'm always gonna do just "one more."

    Hope you get well soon...
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    Kurt don't give up just yet, well you can't now since its in your blood. You'll bounce back and want it more. Get well soon.
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    I enjoyed your film edits, hopefully you'll heal up and be ripping it up soon to make more film edits.

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    I have done 2 ACLR's in the last 2 years. Recovery was about as long as the winter. Back riding big stuff again. I recommend heading over to the Gimp Central thread over at TGR. Lots of good info from both docs and folks who have been there.

    Sell your Demo and build up a new dream bike while you heal, it will keep your stoke up and motivate to hit the PT hard. Vibes

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    Sorry to hear that OP

    what exactly went wrong?

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    No way, bro! You're just saying that now but I know you'll be back... you're just too good. Sucks getting injured, but you'll heal and you're gonna be itching to ride your bike again. I can bike-sit for you in the meantime. =)

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    GLC drop get ya?

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    thanks for the healing vibes all... it's not me so much that wants to give it up, it's convincing my wife to allow me to do these crazy things... right now she is having none of it.

    the official mri results:
    "Joint effusion posterior soft tissue T2 signal abnormality seen.

    There is full-thickness tear of the MCL and PCL. There is partial
    tear or sprain of the proximal fibular collateral ligament. Bone
    marrow edema is seen.

    Possible tear of the root of the medial meniscus."
    i'm in a hinged knee brace now and on crutches for the next 4 weeks.. at the end of this month I have another ortho appointment to determine if my PCL is able to heal itself or not.. otherwise i get the knife. not really happy about the fact that i have to wait a month to see if surgery is needed, but i would much rather rehab my knee without it if possible. anyone have advice/experience with this?

    on the bright side of things i'm really happy my ACL is not blown up amongst all the damage...

    i crashed on the last jump in the joyride park. i didn't get enough air and i landed a whip (silly me, of course i try to throw an oppo whip too) sideways.. when i landed it snapped back and started to highside me... when it snapped back i put my foot down to try and plant and prevent the explosion - and i literally watched my knee/leg give out and heard the pop.. i wish i had the rewind button.. i would have rather gone otb and taken my chances now...or even smarter, just straight air'd it on my way back to the lodge and save it for the next day.. ****.

    funny thing is, i crashed on wednesday... friday was the last day of my trip. i said **** it, bought a mueller brace from the village pharmacy, sac'd up and rode Top of the World with my buddies. after a couple minutes warm up i was able to get full pedal strokes in, and managed to ride the whole trail without any pain and still shredded just as hard as usual. i didn't want to push my luck and crash on an already trashed knee so i called it a day.. i'm wondering if that'll be the last ride i ever went on.. *tears*

    it's going to be a long time before i can get into downhill again, honestly i don't know if i'll ever be back. i know my wife wants me to have nothing to do with it, hopefully with time things will chill out and i'll be riding again.. probably focusing less on jumps and drops and more on DH speed.. who knows.. i just know the next half a year or more is going to majorly suck, but i'm going to do a good job on making sure i strengthen up my knee during the rehab process. i think my body heals pretty well, so i'm hoping i'll be back in less time... if possible!

    i have the crash on go pro.. super depressing to crash on such a stupid small jump after shredding crabapple literally minutes before.. and thrashing the double blacks all day at mach 7.

    for your viewing pleasure:
    <object width='750' height='422'><param name='allowFullScreen' value='true' /><param name='allowScriptAccess' value='always' /><param name='movie' value='http://www.pinkbike.com/v/276277/l/' /><embed src='http://www.pinkbike.com/v/276277/l/' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' width='750' height='422' allowFullScreen='true' allowScriptAccess='always'></embed></object><p><a href='http://www.pinkbike.com/video/276277/'>Not-Joyride @ Whistler</a>

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    Def. do NOT get rid of your bikes!! I've had both ACL's replaced, 1st was in '96 and the 2nd was 1 year ago/ Surgery procedures are much better now and I was back doing real riding in under 3 months this time. I had my surgery on Aug 8th, 2011 and did a big ride called "Flight Of The Pigs" only 3 months later (it's held the day after Thanksgiving, approx. 75 miles with 50% on road and the rest on the rocky trails of South Mtn, PMP and Papago...). Just be focused on rehab and you'll be back before you know it.
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    i'm going to make an edit with a bunch of my friends and my footage... but here's just some small clips i had shredding just prior....

    sigh

    <object width='750' height='422'><param name='allowFullScreen' value='true' /><param name='allowScriptAccess' value='always' /><param name='movie' value='http://www.pinkbike.com/v/275099/l/' /><embed src='http://www.pinkbike.com/v/275099/l/' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' width='750' height='422' allowFullScreen='true' allowScriptAccess='always'></embed></object><p><a href='http://www.pinkbike.com/video/275099/'>Whistler In Deep</a>
    right before crashing... attempted these suckers and nailed em.. was going to get some steeze goin on and photoshoot for the next day.. fail

    <object width='750' height='422'><param name='allowFullScreen' value='true' /><param name='allowScriptAccess' value='always' /><param name='movie' value='http://www.pinkbike.com/v/275104/l/' /><embed src='http://www.pinkbike.com/v/275104/l/' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' width='750' height='422' allowFullScreen='true' allowScriptAccess='always'></embed></object><p><a href='http://www.pinkbike.com/video/275104/'>Whistler Crabapple Hits</a>

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    Man, you sound EXACTLY like me just before surgery! Wife was not happy with the injuries (I ruptured a kidney earlier that year and promptly imploded at Whistler as soon as I got back on the bike, then tore the ACL a month later). I've basically backed off on some of the higher risk stuff (bigger jumps, high speed tech sections) but that's it. Focusing more on having fun at the pumptrack, long rides, digging (secondary addiction) and mellow jumps.
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    Your a great rider man and i feel your pain .. July 14th is when i messed myself up and now i can start going to the gym to do extremely light weights and also start my physical therapy ..

    I had a R AC separation and 3 fractures on my Scapula .. I was lucky enough not to have to go under the knife for it but my right shoulder looks funny now since i had a type 3 separation .. Just ride a bit more laid back , remember its just a hobby for most of us

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    Don't let your wife rule your life.

    You can't love anyone else unless you love yourself.

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    Dude you'll be back. Man up.
    That being said, +++healing vibes to you.
    PS what size demo? And how much xD
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    Quote Originally Posted by nut! View Post
    dude you'll be back. Man up.
    That being said, +++healing vibes to you.
    Ps what size demo? And how much xd
    lol

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    Dude, between hitting CrabApple hits the way you did, InDeep while wet and the Joyride jumps the way you did, you have nothing to be ashamed of. That's some awesome riding. Get well soon and get back on the horse.

    So sorry you had to crash on that last one. I know what it feels like when you do something so simple, but funk yourself up so bad. I crashed on the entry to the Boneyard really hard this year in a place I totally shouldn't have crashed on Day 3 of my Whistler trip. While I was banged up pretty bad and am still sore after a couple weeks, I luckily avoided major damage. Still mad at myself for crashing though.

    Good luck on your recovery...

    Quote Originally Posted by ustemuf View Post
    thanks for the healing vibes all... it's not me so much that wants to give it up, it's convincing my wife to allow me to do these crazy things... right now she is having none of it.

    the official mri results:


    i'm in a hinged knee brace now and on crutches for the next 4 weeks.. at the end of this month I have another ortho appointment to determine if my PCL is able to heal itself or not.. otherwise i get the knife. not really happy about the fact that i have to wait a month to see if surgery is needed, but i would much rather rehab my knee without it if possible. anyone have advice/experience with this?

    on the bright side of things i'm really happy my ACL is not blown up amongst all the damage...

    i crashed on the last jump in the joyride park. i didn't get enough air and i landed a whip (silly me, of course i try to throw an oppo whip too) sideways.. when i landed it snapped back and started to highside me... when it snapped back i put my foot down to try and plant and prevent the explosion - and i literally watched my knee/leg give out and heard the pop.. i wish i had the rewind button.. i would have rather gone otb and taken my chances now...or even smarter, just straight air'd it on my way back to the lodge and save it for the next day.. ****.

    funny thing is, i crashed on wednesday... friday was the last day of my trip. i said **** it, bought a mueller brace from the village pharmacy, sac'd up and rode Top of the World with my buddies. after a couple minutes warm up i was able to get full pedal strokes in, and managed to ride the whole trail without any pain and still shredded just as hard as usual. i didn't want to push my luck and crash on an already trashed knee so i called it a day.. i'm wondering if that'll be the last ride i ever went on.. *tears*

    it's going to be a long time before i can get into downhill again, honestly i don't know if i'll ever be back. i know my wife wants me to have nothing to do with it, hopefully with time things will chill out and i'll be riding again.. probably focusing less on jumps and drops and more on DH speed.. who knows.. i just know the next half a year or more is going to majorly suck, but i'm going to do a good job on making sure i strengthen up my knee during the rehab process. i think my body heals pretty well, so i'm hoping i'll be back in less time... if possible!

    i have the crash on go pro.. super depressing to crash on such a stupid small jump after shredding crabapple literally minutes before.. and thrashing the double blacks all day at mach 7.

    for your viewing pleasure:

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    Thanks for sharing your video of the crash, I know it sucks to go look back over and over and say all the "what ifs" but now is the time to heal up.

    btw check your bars, it looks like they had some flex going on.
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    Healing wibes out man. I hope you get back into ripping again!

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    'tis but a flesh wound....

    Do the PT, and get back on the bike!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ustemuf View Post
    ...torn heart...
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    goodbye downhill MTB
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    sigh. ...anyone want to buy a 2011 Demo?
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    i'm wondering if that'll be the last ride i ever went on.. *tears*
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    ...sigh...
    Man the fvck up.
    But seriously, heal up, get back on the bike, and try to have fun.
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    OH....you will be back! Your a good rider and I think you know that. Heal up fast bro. Your bike is waiting for you.
    I'm thinking about shreddin' it up right now!
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    Get well soon and get back on the bike. I can imagine what's going through your head, I blew my lumbar out last week and still can't walk so I know the short term feeling of being off the bike in the best part of the year.

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    Healing vibes ustemuf. Do NOT have surgery unless absolutely necessary - TRUST ME on this one. Even if it really looks bad on the MRI but isn't torn thru it will usually heal - may take up to seven years but it WILL heal (usually in two years). Surgery = pain/arthritis later. I have a frozen shoulder now as proof.

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    GOOD stuff Talks about his feelings on riding after his crash and friends that are "worse off."
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    Sorry to hear that homie, I'm getting out of the hospital today. Going on on 4 days. At Ravens on the last drop I broke my collar bone, 1 rib, right scapula and collapsed a lung. this has been a tough season for my riding group. Gene had a class 3 shoulder separation and Dan broke his forearm and torn crap in his wrist. He is on his 2nd surgery. All the best dude and I hope you heal up well.

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    I never heard a pop, I actually stood up and pulled my bike out of the trees. Knee buckle trying mount, so I decide to try the other side. That knee buckled and I went rolling down the mountain. Everybody thought I was crazy for DH at my age (not that I'm old, it's just ppl think you should stop living past a curtain age.) let alone doing it after the crash, but it was all I could think about. I agonized over the "what ifs" considering that the crash was all me fault. I did would others have said, " sell the bike and build a new to motivate you". The was a mistake. I should have kept the bike, because I would not have had to spend cash I didn't have (because of time lost at work) to building another bike.
    Watch some vids to keep the passion alive. Stock up on a season worth of tires, make some upgrades, but do not sell. For one reason and probably the biggest, you won't have to explain, justify, rationalize, or argue with the wife about the purchase. You can spend that time showing her how you are going to be safer by wearing more PPG to prevent farther injury.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ustemuf View Post
    thanks for the healing vibes all... it's not me so much that wants to give it up, it's convincing my wife to allow me to do these crazy things... right now she is having none of it.

    the official mri results:


    i'm in a hinged knee brace now and on crutches for the next 4 weeks.. at the end of this month I have another ortho appointment to determine if my PCL is able to heal itself or not.. otherwise i get the knife. not really happy about the fact that i have to wait a month to see if surgery is needed, but i would much rather rehab my knee without it if possible. anyone have advice/experience with this?

    on the bright side of things i'm really happy my ACL is not blown up amongst all the damage...

    i crashed on the last jump in the joyride park. i didn't get enough air and i landed a whip (silly me, of course i try to throw an oppo whip too) sideways.. when i landed it snapped back and started to highside me... when it snapped back i put my foot down to try and plant and prevent the explosion - and i literally watched my knee/leg give out and heard the pop.. i wish i had the rewind button.. i would have rather gone otb and taken my chances now...or even smarter, just straight air'd it on my way back to the lodge and save it for the next day.. ****.

    funny thing is, i crashed on wednesday... friday was the last day of my trip. i said **** it, bought a mueller brace from the village pharmacy, sac'd up and rode Top of the World with my buddies. after a couple minutes warm up i was able to get full pedal strokes in, and managed to ride the whole trail without any pain and still shredded just as hard as usual. i didn't want to push my luck and crash on an already trashed knee so i called it a day.. i'm wondering if that'll be the last ride i ever went on.. *tears*

    it's going to be a long time before i can get into downhill again, honestly i don't know if i'll ever be back. i know my wife wants me to have nothing to do with it, hopefully with time things will chill out and i'll be riding again.. probably focusing less on jumps and drops and more on DH speed.. who knows.. i just know the next half a year or more is going to majorly suck, but i'm going to do a good job on making sure i strengthen up my knee during the rehab process. i think my body heals pretty well, so i'm hoping i'll be back in less time... if possible!

    i have the crash on go pro.. super depressing to crash on such a stupid small jump after shredding crabapple literally minutes before.. and thrashing the double blacks all day at mach 7.

    for your viewing pleasure:
    I've torn both of my PCL's from riding - multiple consultations and never needed surgery - its incredibly rare that they operate. Both have scared / healed down and major PT and some good Don Joy braces have done the trick. Confidence - that takes a while. . . Start back on a trail bike and get your flow back! You can / should be able to be on a spin bike pretty quickly!

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    Daaaamn!!!! Get better man. If you need to sell your bike for bills so be it, but not because of the wife
    And you can hear your heart beating in the vids which I think is pretty sick
    Ruder than you.
    Ska is not dead!

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    Man, I think everyone goes through this kind of thing at some stage, you are a great rider you need to ride. I dont think not riding is an option.

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