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    Titanium hardware kit

    Wondering where these peeps get their titanium screw/bolt/hardware kits

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    Until recently, I have ordered for Toronto Cycles. On my order a few weeks ago, appearantly they were out of the size screw I wanted and fulfilled it with the incorrect length, assuming I wouldn't care. WTF? I then ordered on eBay and couldn't be happier with the prompt service and quality of product.

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    Keep in mind, most MFG's don't reccomend Ti bolts to be used in the linkages in stuff, they're just too weak compared to grade 12.9 steel bolts. I also wouldn't risk using them on your stem or anything.

    I'm not an expert, but to me shaving a few grams isn't worth the sense of security that steel brings.

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    i have ti rotor bolts, hs33 bolts (extended for brake booster), stem, pedal axles, bb, female bolts for hubs. have not had one problem. i was breaking the heads off of grade 8 and 8.5 on my hs33s. finally dropped the cash for some ti and couldnt be happier.

    also shaved over a pound so my trials bike come out just over 20lbs.

    i got mine from tartybikes.co.uk. but its will require loosing a limb to afford it.

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    I figured that if a ti axle on a pedal can handle the shear loads out on it, a bolt contained in a dampened shock should be fine.

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    I'll use Ti bolts anywhere. Been doing so for 15 years and never had one break.

    Aluminum is a different story, it is fine for low load applications like brake lever clamps, derailleur bolts, but anything with shear or needing enough clamping force to resist body weight forget it.

    Surprisingly Specialized specs an M6 aluminum bolt for the front shock mount on the S-works Stumpjumper... so maybe material choice is not so intuitive at times. I still run Ti there though.

    Would be interested to hear first hand experience of Ti bolts failing in bike applications (pedal spindles don't count, those certainly do fail on occasion).

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    I purchased Ti bolts from ebay as well. Ti rotor bolts, seatpost rail clamp, brake adapter/caliper, shifter clamps.

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    Don't skimp on quality...TekBolt offers some of the best (6Al4V). I've dealt with them a few times, great company.
    TekBolt Metric Nuts Bolts Washers Fasteners

    That being said, my bike has no Ti on it...too expensive.

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    Out of curiosity, how much are you guys spending on these Ti bolt kits and how much weight are you saving?
    I've never desired to do Ti bolts on my bike, hell... a Ti spring is a stretch but I end up buying one as the finishing touch to each DH bike I've built.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mbell View Post
    I figured that if a ti axle on a pedal can handle the shear loads out on it, a bolt contained in a dampened shock should be fine.
    Not a safe comparison. Ti pedal spindles usually have fairly low rider weight limits (180-200 lb) when the steel spindle versions do not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by echo24 View Post
    i have ti rotor bolts, hs33 bolts (extended for brake booster), stem, pedal axles, bb, female bolts for hubs. have not had one problem. i was breaking the heads off of grade 8 and 8.5 on my hs33s. finally dropped the cash for some ti and couldnt be happier.

    also shaved over a pound so my trials bike come out just over 20lbs.

    i got mine from tartybikes.co.uk. but its will require loosing a limb to afford it.
    Just from replacing bolts? I doubt if all the steel bolts on my bike weigh as much as a pound in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    Not a safe comparison. Ti pedal spindles usually have fairly low rider weight limits (180-200 lb) when the steel spindle versions do not.
    I agree about the direct rider weight. But there are variables beyond that- rock strikes at speed and increase load when under compression (landing a jump, etc).

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    Just from replacing bolts? I doubt if all the steel bolts on my bike weigh as much as a pound in the first place.
    if you read the list, i have the pedal spindles and bb in there too. the biggest difference was the bb as it dropped 1/2 pound alone.

    Out of curiosity, how much are you guys spending on these Ti bolt kits and how much weight are you saving?
    i have about $80 in bolts and $200 in ti parts. its not any different then throwing on carbon bits except for if you forget to throw antiseize on the threads it doesnt try and weld itself to aluminum from corrosion.

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    Echo24 - if I were to get ti bolts should I throw some lube/anti seize on all the threads? If so can you recommend a good product?

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    Quote Originally Posted by csermonet View Post
    Echo24 - if I were to get ti bolts should I throw some lube/anti seize on all the threads? If so can you recommend a good product?
    Grease works fine, but this stuff is purpose made.

    Amazon.com: Finish Line Ti prep Anti-Seize: Sports & Outdoors
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    You can buy anti seize compound at your local auto parts store for a heck of a lot less than that Finish Line stuff. And it is probably better quality too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by myarmisonfire View Post
    You can buy anti seize compound at your local auto parts store for a heck of a lot less than that Finish Line stuff. And it is probably better quality too.
    im using the anti seize goop i got for my car brakes.

    Permatex/8 oz. (226.8 g.) anti-seize lubricant (80078) | Lube | AutoZone.com

    ill find out if it works when i need to change my rotor down the road

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    i picked up some ti bolts from ebay for my stem and top cap bolt. i think i saved around 12g.
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    Quote Originally Posted by saturnine View Post
    i picked up some ti bolts from ebay for my stem and top cap bolt. i think i saved around 12g.
    hahahahahaha

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    Quote Originally Posted by csermonet View Post
    Wondering where these peeps get their titanium screw/bolt/hardware kits
    this is what you need:

    Titanium Bolts, Titanium Bolt, Titanium Fasteners, Ti Bolt

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    I got mine from eBay, by size for each application, for a total of $60 shipped I got bolts for 2 bikes:

    7 crown bolts for a Manitou Dorado, as well as the 4 axle pinch bolts (not stem bolts though)
    front brake caliper & adaptor bolts for 1 bike, caliper for the other
    rear caliper and adaptor for 1 and caliper for the other

    Weight is fairly negligable, but the Ti bolts at the brakes sure look a lot better than the stock Shimano bolts. Both bikes are new Santa Cruz's and most of the bolts on the frame some stock with Ti, shock bolts and the bolts that thread into the axles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by echo24 View Post
    if you read the list, i have the pedal spindles and bb in there too. the biggest difference was the bb as it dropped 1/2 pound alone.
    I read that as ti BB bolts, not the BB spindle. If you have a current external bearing BB crankset ti spidles are not an option, and they are already lighter than steel splined/square taper cranksets.

    The weight difference between my Profile Racing steel and ti spindles (solid versions) is ~1/3 lb. About as heavy as spindles get.
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    the dorado crown bolts need 10-12Nm to tighten, the ti screw has a max from 12Nm I'm back the the original steel screws...

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    Grade 5 Alloy Steel (commonly used on automobiles for lug nut and lug bolt applications)
    Yield Strength: 92,000psi
    Ultimate Tensile Strength: 120,000psi
    Shear Strength: 72,000psi
    Density: .284 lb/in^3

    Grade 8 Alloy Steel (used for lug nuts and lug bolts in high strength applications):
    Yield Strength: 130,000 psi
    Ultimate Tensile Strength: 150,000psi
    Shear Strength: 90,000psi
    Density: .284 lb/in^3

    7075 Aluminum (used on various automobiles for lug nut and lug bolt applications):
    Yield Strength: 73,000psi
    Ultimate Tensile Strength: 83,000psi
    Shear Strength: 48,000psi
    Density: .102 lb/in^3

    Grade 5 6AL-4V Titanium (Tikore's preferred material):
    Yield Strength: 128,000psi
    Ultimate Tensile Strength: 138,000psi
    Shear Strength: 79,800psi
    Density: .160 lb/in^3

    Additional note: Titanium has an extremely high resistance to corrosion.

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    What about grade 12.9?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiggy View Post
    I read that as ti BB bolts, not the BB spindle. If you have a current external bearing BB crankset ti spidles are not an option, and they are already lighter than steel splined/square taper cranksets.

    The weight difference between my Profile Racing steel and ti spindles (solid versions) is ~1/3 lb. About as heavy as spindles get.
    its the echo ti bb. i was alittle off on the weight difference on the bb, felt alot more then what it measures at.

    New system ISIS Bottom Bracket from Echo. with 124mm axle.
    Complete weight including crank bolts: 197g (Titanium), 262g (Steel)

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    I used to use Racebolts.com but now I'm using eBay and the prices and quality have been great. I use Ti on everything but linkages and in some cases like brake lever bolts I use alloy in colors.
    I got some pretty decent Niners!

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    I've gathered using high quality stuff is important, ill be ordering from the link below. Is this quality ti hardware?

    Titanium Bolts, Titanium Bolt, Titanium Fasteners, Ti Bolt

    Also, is there anywhere that I absolutely SHOULD NOT use ti bolts? I was going to leave my pivot hardware stock. Here's a list of the locations I am considering safe for titanium use.

    Fox 40 clamp hardware
    Fox 40 axle pinch bolts
    Seat post collar clamp bolt
    Rotor bolts
    Caliper mounting bolts
    Brake lever clamp bolts

    Would shock mount bolts be okay? I'm on a DW DHR if it makes any difference.

    I'm using a Function Inertia Project top crown with integrated direct mount stem. Uses 4 bolts total in the stem area to clamp the handlebars. Would the handle bar clamp bolts be safe for titanium use?

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