Sam Hill in 2013...

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  • 12-23-2012
    SV11
    Sam Hill in 2013...
  • 12-23-2012
    Fix the Spade
    Well **** me.

    Begs the question what's been going on at Specialized to make one of the most prized names in Downhill run away?

    Assuming it's real of course.
  • 12-23-2012
    rugbyred
    Does this mean that every second bike in the lift line will be a Nukeproof?

    Eric
  • 12-23-2012
    Fix the Spade
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rugbyred View Post
    Does this mean that every second bike in the lift line will be a Nukeproof?

    Eric

    If it means an end to the line of bikes with wobbly shock mounts, live in hope.
  • 12-23-2012
    slimphatty
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rugbyred View Post
    Does this mean that every second bike in the lift line will be a Nukeproof?

    Eric

    Yes, it does. :D
  • 12-23-2012
    tuumbaq
    Old news ;-) the real question is : Who's going to fill his spot !!! The rumor of Gwinny filling in is just plain silly but interesting none the less...
  • 12-23-2012
    mbell
    Gwin just resigned with Trek for a few years. No chance on that.
  • 12-23-2012
    hitechredneck
    Yep no more demos in lift lines. All sessions and furys with the v10 crowd in there as well.
  • 12-23-2012
    tuumbaq
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by mbell View Post
    Gwin just resigned with Trek for a few years. No chance on that.

    this says otherwise:

    http://cdn3.coresites.mpora.com/dirt...jpg-large.jpeg

    beside, Specialized as the money to make impossible things :thumbsup:
  • 12-23-2012
    b-kul
    hmmm very interesting. no way crc can offer him more money than spec.
  • 12-23-2012
    StuLax18
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tuumbaq View Post
    this says otherwise:

    http://cdn3.coresites.mpora.com/dirt...jpg-large.jpeg

    beside, Specialized as the money to make impossible things :thumbsup:

    And lawyers.
  • 12-23-2012
    DHgnaR
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by tuumbaq View Post
    this says otherwise:

    http://cdn3.coresites.mpora.com/dirt...jpg-large.jpeg

    beside, Specialized as the money to make impossible things :thumbsup:

    Team rumors has been wrong in the past. Also Gwin jumping ship seems out of character... but who knows?
  • 12-23-2012
    tuumbaq
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by DHgnaR View Post
    Team rumors has been wrong in the past. Also Gwin jumping ship seems out of character... but who knows?

    my point exactly
  • 12-23-2012
    SV11
    Hill's possible new ride. It was designed in collaboration with CRC/Nukeproof team.



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  • 12-23-2012
    rugbyred
  • 12-23-2012
    b-kul
    thats pretty crazy. guess spec is counting on troy to be their top dog now?
  • 12-23-2012
    Fix the Spade
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by b-kul View Post
    hmmm very interesting. no way crc can offer him more money than spec.

    No, but if they treated Hill anything like the way they treated Fairclough money won't have been the issue.
  • 12-23-2012
    hitechredneck
    Is there a interview or anything about the way that Brendog was treated? I was always wondering why he left but never looked into it.
  • 12-23-2012
    Fix the Spade
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by hitechredneck View Post
    Is there a interview or anything about the way that Brendog was treated? I was always wondering why he left but never looked into it.

    There was something in Dirt a while back.

    Basically he bust his knee and MonsterSpesh told him he either kept riding or didn't get paid at all.

    Que a year of bad results and an ever worsening injury. That's not a good way to treat an investment, given the injuries Hill's had riding the Demo it will be interesting to know if he was delivered the same ultimatum.
  • 12-23-2012
    b-kul
    i didnt know hill was hurt?
  • 12-23-2012
    schlockinz
    Damn, its a good thing I sold all my spesh bikes...
  • 12-24-2012
    aedubber
    2013 guys , new start and new year for everyone .. Embrace it and look for a fun year :) .
  • 12-24-2012
    cyclelicious
    Change is sometimes a good thing. Looking forward to 2013
  • 12-24-2012
    jakester29959
    sweet. now all the fan boys will be selling their 2012's and 2011's demos cheep. NEW BIKE BABY!
  • 12-24-2012
    darkzeon
    Hunter was the main influence why I chose the demo as my next frame. All the wordcup fanboize went to a frenzy when Hill joined Spec. Sadly though he was not 100% during that time (remember the beer belly). And now all those same people act like they don't want their demos anymore is just plain fun, because Hill won't be on one next season. Hope, Hill tears up the track next season.
  • 12-24-2012
    J:
    pivots
    Kind of looks like a Scalp got new square tubes and w/o brace in the rear tri
  • 12-24-2012
    rugbyred
    Is the front triangle on the Nukeproof prototype made of carbon? I can see the welds on the rear triangle, but the front looks like it does not have any.
    Yes, my laptop has pretty poor resolution.

    Eric
  • 12-24-2012
    SV11
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rugbyred View Post
    Is the front triangle on the Nukeproof prototype made of carbon? I can see the welds on the rear triangle, but the front looks like it does not have any.
    Yes, my laptop has pretty poor resolution.

    Eric

    It's a custom hydroformed tube set, with smooth welding.
    T6 6061 Alu.



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  • 12-24-2012
    b-kul
    ^yeah i think the one in the photo is aluminum but with a rider like hill im sure a carbon one is not far off.
  • 12-24-2012
    Tim F.
    Spec probually dropped him or at least gave him the opertunity to leave. He hasn't really done any thing since he left Iron Horse. Maybe this will give him the inspiration to get his sh*t together.
  • 12-24-2012
    Yippee_Ki_YayMF
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tim F. View Post
    Spec probually dropped him or at least gave him the opertunity to leave. He hasn't really done any thing since he left Iron Horse. Maybe this will give him the inspiration to get his sh*t together.

    Yeah, he only won the Worlds and even came 5th overall this year after 2 years of injury. Yep, really failed.
  • 12-24-2012
    csermonet
    Hill had a great season, considering he was coming off an injury. top 5 overall on flats. he is definitely still relevant as a podium contender. im thinking spesh lowered his salary in order to raise brosnans. If not, CRC must have dropped a fatter check on the table and Hill being a father now did the smart thing and went where the money is. we can speculate all we want, fact of the matter is he went to CRC and thats that.
  • 12-24-2012
    Scythe
    And also won the World Cup his first year on the demo.
  • 12-24-2012
    slimphatty
    I think this is gonna be a fresh start for him. He'll shred the 2013 season for sure.
  • 12-25-2012
    b-kul
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tim F. View Post
    Spec probually dropped him or at least gave him the opertunity to leave. He hasn't really done any thing since he left Iron Horse. Maybe this will give him the inspiration to get his sh*t together.

    probably didnt get the results he was looking for but he still a top wc racer and any company would be crazy to drop him over his results.
  • 12-25-2012
    saturnine
    hill sells bikes. period. results aren't the be all end all. any company would love to have sam hill. apparently crc just wanted him more.
  • 12-25-2012
    Fix the Spade
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by darkzeon View Post
    Sadly though he was not 100% during that time (remember the beer belly).

    That's not entirely fair, 2009 World cup overall, 2010 World Champion.

    Unfortunately in 2010 Fort William bit him hard and he missed half the season (Sam Hill In Fort William Smash).

    Then in 2011 he had an argument with a moto and sat out almost the whole season. That seemed to get downplayed but to miss most of a season is more than a little injury. After that eighteen months (and becoming a father) top five in the world cup isn't bad, although everyone will expect better next year.
  • 12-25-2012
    wyatt79m
    It will be interesting to see how he does, gotta be good for crc tho...

    Sent from my SAMSUNG-SGH-I957 using Tapatalk 2
  • 12-25-2012
    rep_1969
    Listen to all you Sam Hill fan-boys. Funny shiz!!
  • 12-26-2012
    Tim F.
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by b-kul View Post
    hmmm very interesting. no way crc can offer him more money than spec.

    Spec probually offered him a lesser contract for 2013.
  • 12-27-2012
    SV11
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tim F. View Post
    Spec probually offered him a lesser contract for 2013.

    If thats the case, Spec basically bit the had that fed them.
    The demo was very average (crappy) when sam moved to spec, he did extremely well and breathed new life into the demo. They should of done everything in their power to keep him on the team.
  • 12-30-2012
    his dudeness
    At the end of the day he's a fast guy who has had a couple seasons of injury and life happening. While I can't say in my heart that he's ever going to be the number one guy anymore with the likes of Gwin and others out there, he's still a top 5 contender at any race that isn't the South Africa track.

    Another thing to consider is that all of the current top contenders are only there because they had to step up their game massively to beat Hill. They had to train while he never really did. Maybe if he gets serious and puts in a hard offseason of training he can get back to the top.
  • 12-31-2012
    foxpuppet
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    Here it is for your enjoyment... Sam hills nukeproof pulse

    From hills IG account posted once his dec 31 contract expiration with Spesh passed.
  • 12-31-2012
    saturnine
    whoa
  • 12-31-2012
    adumesny
    that thing looks flexi! :)

    seriously looks like a tank - don't know anything about nukeproof bikes but fixed rear triangle and single pivot above the crankarms seems very old school vs modern suspension designs you have now. Big departure from his early days with IH and DW link design bikes... which I'm partial too having owned a few over the years and never liking the single pivot ones I've owned (and sold).

    At the top of the game I don't know how much it is the rider anyway and not the bike. Change is good, never liked how Specialized is treating local small shops anyway and taking over other brands...
  • 12-31-2012
    blackohio
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by Tim F. View Post
    Spec probually dropped him or at least gave him the opertunity to leave. He hasn't really done any thing since he left Iron Horse. Maybe this will give him the inspiration to get his sh*t together.

    Yeah because winning the overall his first year on a demo, winning worlds coming off an injury and placing 5th this year are things to balk at.

    I don't know what your idea of getting his **** together is but im pretty sure he's got it. Riders have bad years, some more than others. Some (the good ones) come right back (think Greg and Sam)
  • 01-01-2013
    SV11
  • 01-01-2013
    rugbyred
    Speaking with a friend about Sam Hill leaving and he brought up a point that I had not thought of.
    Most people talk of Sam either leaving Specialized or Specialized dumping Sam.
    But the team is not Specialized, it is Monster and then Specialized. It does not look like Sam will continue his relationship with Monster, so my thought would be that his contract was not renewed by Monster, which has the relationship with Specialized.
    How many true factory teams are there? I don't think that there are many, but I could be very mistaken.

    Eric
  • 01-01-2013
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  • 01-01-2013
    Fix the Spade
    Quote:

    Originally Posted by rugbyred View Post
    How many true factory teams are there? I don't think that there are many, but I could be very mistaken.

    Well, Trek, Santa Cruz, GT, Devinci, Giant, Lapierre, Ghost, Yeti, Scott, Kona, Saracen and Nukeproof are all what you'd call a works team in motorsport. The manufacturer owns (or the manufacturer's owner owns) the team and provides the lion's share of the cash.

    Most of the big teams are factory operations.

    Never sure about Monster Spesh though, I remember them as Monster Iron Horse.