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    The article on pb says he will be staying with monster, SRAM, and Troy Lee. Monster might not be teamed with Specialized next year. I don't think there are any bad guys here, Sam's contract was up with Spec. And decided to test the waters and CRC offered him a deal that appealed to him. It's going to be interesting to see how Sam does on a single pivot and who will be the number one rider for Spec. This year.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rugbyred View Post
    Speaking with a friend about Sam Hill leaving and he brought up a point that I had not thought of.
    Most people talk of Sam either leaving Specialized or Specialized dumping Sam.
    But the team is not Specialized, it is Monster and then Specialized. It does not look like Sam will continue his relationship with Monster, so my thought would be that his contract was not renewed by Monster, which has the relationship with Specialized.
    How many true factory teams are there? I don't think that there are many, but I could be very mistaken.

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    Latest Pink Bike interveiw with his manager's mentioned he still will be riding with a Monster helment, meaning still co-sponsored by monster. But doesn't sound like Monster will be supporting the CRC/ Nukeproof team as a whole, like the Monster/ Spec or Monster/ Iron Horse.
    The guy yo' momma "act" like she don't know!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob-Bob View Post
    The article on pb says he will be staying with monster, SRAM, and Troy Lee. Monster might not be teamed with Specialized next year. I don't think there are any bad guys here, Sam's contract was up with Spec. And decided to test the waters and CRC offered him a deal that appealed to him. It's going to be interesting to see how Sam does on a single pivot and who will be the number one rider for Spec. This year.

    Some guy named Aaron Gwin did pretty well last season on one of those "single pivot " bikes

    Why oh why people still bring that up in 2013 ????!?!?!

    Im stoked for Sam. good change for him but I sure hope CRC will come up with a better paint job cause that thing look terrible...kinda cheap ass looking IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuumbaq View Post
    Some guy named Aaron Gwin did pretty well last season on one of those "single pivot " bikes

    Why oh why people still bring that up in 2013 ????!?!?!

    Im stoked for Sam. good change for him but I sure hope CRC will come up with a better paint job cause that thing look terrible...kinda cheap ass looking IMO
    Lighten up. I wasnt commenting on the bike design. It's just a change from anything he has raced on the W.C. Circuit.
    Also is the split pivot floating shock design that trek uses really a single pivot. Not being a smart ass, seriously would like to know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuumbaq View Post
    Some guy named Aaron Gwin did pretty well last season on one of those "single pivot " bikes
    ummmm hows ABP single pivot? Theres a pivot near the BB, one at the rear axle and two up at the rocker arm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob-Bob View Post
    Lighten up. I wasnt commenting on the bike design. It's just a change from anything he has raced on the W.C. Circuit.
    Also is the split pivot floating shock design that trek uses really a single pivot. Not being a smart ass, seriously would like to know.
    fair enough...and YES the split pivot design is a single pivot ...at least I count only one pivot between the BB and the rear axle and it also behaves like one as well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuumbaq View Post
    fair enough...and YES the split pivot design is a single pivot ...at least I count only one pivot between the BB and the rear axle and it also behaves like one as well...
    I guess technically it's a sp, but i was understanding the concentric axle pivot as a second.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackohio View Post
    ummmm hows ABP single pivot? Theres a pivot near the BB, one at the rear axle and two up at the rocker arm.
    the pivot isn't NEAR the axle its AROUND the axle and what you are refereeing to are not pivot point between the BB and axle

    art the end of the day, the split pivot only has ONE pivot between the BB and the rear axle and behave pretty much like a SP

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    fixthespade,
    Thank you for the correction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob-Bob View Post
    Not being a smart ass, seriously would like to know.
    Yup, the only difference between it and something like a Kona is that the chainstay pivot is concentric to the rear axle (lower and further back).

    It doesn't alter the axle path in any way or place anything between the main pivot and the rear axle, so in mountain bike terms it's still a single pivot. Same applies to the Devinci.

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    basically apb is a single pivot that acts like a horst link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tuumbaq View Post
    my point exactly
    Well I might just be eating crow after all. A friend who knows a guy who knows a girl who is sleeping with Gwin's cousin told him Gwin is going to the Big S.... I obviously can't confim such blasphemous claims but I believe the source.
    Crazy.
    I'd rather have a bottle in front of me than a frontal lobotomy.

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    I can admit it. I was wrong. Wow.

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    Kind of impressed with this pic, to me it looks like an unrecoverable whip (the famous fort william whip), makes the rest look like noobs.



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    I guess it is like in any other sports, athletes go where the most money is . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by DTrepanier View Post
    I guess it is like in any other sports, athletes go where the most money is . . .
    I don't think that is solely in the realm of the athletic world where people go where the money is.

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    Maaaaaad bike!

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    Sam's carbon demo up for sale.

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    Ha I saw that. Surprised he rides a small.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StuLax18 View Post
    Ha I saw that. Surprised he rides a small.
    Really? He's like 5' 4".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob-Bob View Post
    Really? He's like 5' 4".
    Oh, last time we were hanging out he looked more like 5'7" to me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StuLax18 View Post
    Oh, last time we were hanging out he looked more like 5'7" to me.
    Maybe with his helmet on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StuLax18 View Post
    Oh, last time we were hanging out he looked more like 5'7" to me.
    Was he wearing the new 5/10 heals that are the rage in the pits?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob-Bob View Post
    Really? He's like 5' 4".
    He was built for low centre of gravity...haha

    Actually, he is around 5'7"

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    Quote Originally Posted by rugbyred View Post
    Was he wearing the new 5/10 heals that are the rage in the pits?

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    It wasn't quite late enough in the day for that, if you know what I mean.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SV11 View Post
    He was built for low centre of gravity...haha

    Actually, he is around 5'7"
    Actually thought he was around 5'6 " but wasn't surprised he rides a small bike. I would give up half a foot if It would mean I could shred like him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rob-Bob View Post
    I would give up half a foot if It would mean I could shred like him.
    You and me both. Although not sure how hard you can shred with 1.5 feet.

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    Sam just took out the first race if the Australian national series... Looking very good!

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    Results: 2013 Australian MTB National Series

    He can't be doing to bad he was over a second faster in the Australian mtb series, on his new CRC/nukeproof bike

    Hill And Buchanan Victors At Subaru Gravity Cup Opener - MTB National Series

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    Quote Originally Posted by hybridzeg8 View Post
    Results: 2013 Australian MTB National Series

    He can't be doing to bad he was over a second faster in the Australian mtb series, on his new CRC/nukeproof bike

    Hill And Buchanan Victors At Subaru Gravity Cup Opener - MTB National Series
    A second faster than Chris Kovarik isn't exactly what I would call not doing to bad...Not to say Chris is slow by any means but he's no where near the speed of those top WC guys anymore...That said , its a good indicator that he seems to be going along with his new steed and Im sure Sam will find some more speed before the season starts

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    ^^^ basically what I was getting at

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    Video of Sammy at Aussie rd.

    Australian National Round - Mount Butler

    To say they're was no World Cup competition to Hill is pretty ignorant, a few Aussies in that line up would embarrass some WC stars on Aussie soil, also while not yet a top WC star Connor Fearon has been a WC rider for a couple of seasons, and Kovarik is always a threat at home for anyone.

    Would have been good to see Troy Brosnan they're, but Sam is looking the best and most comfortable on a bike Ive seen him in a long time, Nukeproof is a proven ride on the WC and had some great results with some lesser experience riders to date.

    Go Sammy, its yours if you want it bad enough. Bike looks killer to me too, love it.

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    [QUOTE

    Go Sammy, its yours if you want it bad enough. Bike looks killer to me too, love it.[/QUOTE]

    Good to see Sam do well, but let's not get to excited.. This was not a W.C. Caliber course and the competition was not W.C. Level.. The difference for Sam this year won't be the bike.. All bikes ridden by the top 10 riders are all great.. And he really can't blame the bike he was riding the last cople of years. He had alot of input on the Demo.

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    I say if you like to support someone get excited, Im not worried about what his results are just as long as he's ripping it up having fun thats what excites me and change looks like its good for him.

    You underestimate the riding down under, they're s a reason these guys have produced throughout DH history consistently top racers, its not because they get to Europe and US and ride. Every place in the world is unique and can develop skill but all Im saying is from experience don't under estimate Aussie tracks or riders, he had good competition, its only round one and that does not make a season still good for his confidence and just good to see him doing well first up, I think we are all realistic.

    His program this year will be very interesting esp once he gets to do some NPS rounds in the UK.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Maverick005 View Post
    Video of Sammy at Aussie rd.

    Australian National Round - Mount Butler

    To say they're was no World Cup competition to Hill is pretty ignorant, a few Aussies in that line up would embarrass some WC stars on Aussie soil, also while not yet a top WC star Connor Fearon has been a WC rider for a couple of seasons, and Kovarik is always a threat at home for anyone.

    Would have been good to see Troy Brosnan they're, but Sam is looking the best and most comfortable on a bike Ive seen him in a long time, Nukeproof is a proven ride on the WC and had some great results with some lesser experience riders to date.

    Go Sammy, its yours if you want it bad enough. Bike looks killer to me too, love it.
    Just to be on the same page , ( cause I think Im suppose to be the ignorant here ?) I never said there isnt any fast contenders in OZ,I said Kovarik ( 2nd to Sam, so fastest Aussie after Hill , hard to argue with that )does not have the speed to be on the top step of the podium at a WC anymore...He may be a threat at home, but being just over a second faster than him would probably put you 5-10 seconds behind guys like Gwin, Smith, Minnar , Gee...And I would hope that Sam is aiming to be the quickest guy of the day . . . not 9th

    You'd be delusional to think the other racers that day would challenge the top WC guys on the same course.

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    Hill never places well when he races events like this, you can't use it as a comparison.

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