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    what pedals were all you guys riding before the wellgo b252? I currently have some of the superstar delta pedals but I rode some specialised pedals the other day and realised actually the grip on my superstar pedals isn't fantastic by any stretch of the imagination so looking for some new ones. I've seen the dmr mag pedals but at £170 its hard to stomach!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Golf_Chick View Post
    what pedals were all you guys riding before the wellgo b252? I currently have some of the superstar delta pedals but I rode some specialised pedals the other day and realised actually the grip on my superstar pedals isn't fantastic by any stretch of the imagination so looking for some new ones. I've seen the dmr mag pedals but at £170 its hard to stomach!
    I was riding Wellgo WAM-D10 then Wellgo B219 before the B252. From a sticking standpoint they went in this order B219 > D-10 > B252.

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    Got my first ride in with the Wellgo B252s - two thumbs up. I ride xc/trail and wear 5-10 Freeriders. My feet were totally glued. Actually, I never even thought about keeping my feet on the pedals. It just happened, which I guess is probably the best compliment.
    Thanks for the report!

    I didn't get a chance to weight mine but during my ride I found them to be much less grippy than the B219s unfortunately. With my Five Ten Freeriders there are pretty slippery around the middle inside of the pedal. With Vans they stick rather well but nothing like the B219s. But the B219s weigh what 419g? Eek.

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    Still very unhappy with the overall grip of my Spank Spikes, and unable to find longer screws that the head fit in the pedal's recesses, I again turned to Chromag to see how their Contact pedals stack up.

    They have a matt black finish, whereas the Scarabs had a high gloss finish. The Contacts weigh 396g, and I again had to remove all of the factory installed pin spacers for the maximum grip that I am looking for.

    Riding around the street, they have a ton of bite, but I haven't ridden them on the trail yet, but will do so this evening and I'll report back with my thoughts. Here are some pics comparing them to my Spikes:

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    D-Bone,
    I wonder if it is the pin style. Those Spanks have a smooth pin style like the B252 and they don't seem to grab quite as well as the Allen head style pins that I had on the B219 and other pedals. The Allen head style seem sharper. They even grab your skin better if you run your hand across them.

    The smooth pins seem to grip when when inserted into slots on shoes like Vans but not as well on smooth soles like Five Tens. Just my musings for now.
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    Yea F8, I think that is part of it, that along with the Spike's being completely flat. I always feel like I'm standing 'on top' of the Spikes, and even with my 5-10s, I am constantly aware of my feet sliding around when descending the rocky, nasty terrain I ride on.

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    So, I waited until I had 6 rides on the Contacts before writing my thoughts. First and foremost, they grip better than the Spikes and it's not even close. With the Spikes, I simply had to "twist my ankle" to get my 5-10 Free Riders to reposition on the pedal, even if I were standing........... Not so with the Contacts. I have to basically take off all of my weight and "dab my ankle" to reposition. The first few rides I struggled a bit to reposition, but I have now gotten the hang of it and I don't have to think about it as much, and I'm betting by the end of the month, I won't give it another thought.

    The Contacts match, and actually exceed the Spikes in width (from crank arm face to end of pedal) but are about 7mm less in length (from front wheel to back wheel) and that also took a few rides to get used to, but like with the grip, I am now pretty much used to it. Also, I thought I was going to feel the 4mm extra thickness of the Contacts compared to the Spikes (16mm vs 12mm), but I never have.

    Overall, I am extremely happy with the Contacts. With their tenacious grip, I can actually pull back on the pedals while climbing, and when descending or simply hammering through a rough section, my feet just don't move at all.

    I do think Chromag is hurting themselves by marketing the Contact as a "dirt jumping pedal" because even though they say the Contact's "bring your feet closer to the crank, for better control while doing tricks", they are in fact wider than the Spikes by a few mm's, and they even stand off of the crank arm face (where pedal platform begins) more than the Spikes do (see last pic in my above post), so your foot can actually rest naturally on the Contact even a little further away from the crank arm face than with the Spike, which is considered a "trail pedal".

    I will update any durability issues if they arise............ Figure no news is good news.

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    Meanwhile, another pedal-shin encounter on Kore Rivera Thermo. I had to quickly dab left foot and the pedal happened to be in the way. Result: balance saved, shin saved, I got away with a long superficial scratch that didn't even bleed. With a steel pinned pedal that could have been a short deep wound with probability of a pin damaging bone..

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    ^ I hear you!

    Meanwhile, I have had several rides on Chromag Scarab and think they have an awesome grip and platform. They are on my FR rig.

    For my lighter xc / trail bike I have got the Wellgo B252 (had AMPs before but wasn't crazy about them so decided to get something else) - no rides on them yet, will share opinion later.

    In the past, I have also run Straitline De factos and e.13 and both had great durability and grip. The De factos were on my DH rig. My new DH bike will have Saints, we'll see how I like them when I get it and get to ride it...

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    Just had a set of Specialized Red Bennies put on. They look sweeeeet!!




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    Can someone summarize where we are? I have Crampon Ultimates. Out about 1000 miles on them. Love them, but they squeak and have a lot of play. I need to rebuild them. Is there anything else out there that is as thin with a similar size platform?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samo831 View Post
    Can someone summarize where we are? I have Crampon Ultimates. Out about 1000 miles on them. Love them, but they squeak and have a lot of play. I need to rebuild them. Is there anything else out there that is as thin with a similar size platform?
    Supposed to have a little play, mine never squeaked and I'm not one for maintenance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Samo831 View Post
    Can someone summarize where we are? I have Crampon Ultimates. Out about 1000 miles on them. Love them, but they squeak and have a lot of play. I need to rebuild them. Is there anything else out there that is as thin with a similar size platform?
    regrease them and tighten them....they are awesome and last forever
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    Quote Originally Posted by SHIVER ME TIMBERS View Post
    regrease them and tighten them....they are awesome and last forever
    This. They are ridiculously easy to grease and replace the bushings if necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by inonjoey View Post
    This. They are ridiculously easy to grease and replace the bushings if necessary.
    again, came to say the same thing. Takes about 10 minutes to have them off/rebuilt/on the bike.

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    Last update on the Wellgo B252-MG.... unless they break

    I rode 22 miles of some pretty rough stuff in Downieville this weekend which included high speed riverbed (rocky), mud, steep (for me) slopes, loamy soil, water etc.. and the pedals gripped fine. Elevation dropped from 7,000ft. to 2,800ft.. They are not as sticky as the B219s like I mentioned above but they gripped well enough that I never even thought about them at all. I just rode hard and apparently they provided enough grip that I didn't need more.

    Final opinion: I love the weight savings but if I rode extreme tech all the time I'd opt for something with more grip. Otherwise I'm happy with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Samo831 View Post
    Can someone summarize where we are? I have Crampon Ultimates. Out about 1000 miles on them. Love them, but they squeak and have a lot of play. I need to rebuild them. Is there anything else out there that is as thin with a similar size platform?
    I have two pair I cycle between three bikes. They make a rebuild
    kit for them. I use a thick marine grease on mine. Yes, a little play
    when wore but no noise out of mine. Lowest profile of any pedal
    out there and very aggressive. I like mine very very much and
    would by again. The guys over at Crank Bros. are awesome.

    Edit: Sorry, I meant Canfield Bros.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StJoeRider View Post
    I have two pair I cycle between three bikes. They make a rebuild
    kit for them. I use a thick marine grease on mine. Yes, a little play
    when wore but no noise out of mine. Lowest profile of any pedal
    out there and very aggressive. I like mine very very much and
    would by again. The guys over at Crank Bros. are awesome.
    Crank Bros.?

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    try again, lol. crank bros are not it

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishwrinkle View Post
    try again, lol. crank bros are not it
    Let's see how long it takes him to figure it out.

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    Probably an honest brain fart, but still an insult to the bros of bellingham

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    No insult taken, I did have a good laugh though. Glad he's liking his Crampon's.
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    Been using the Origin8 Ultim8 slimline pedal for about a month. I really like the platform, weight, grip, and slimness of the pedal.

    However, one of the pedals developed some play last night. I opened it up and had to tighten the nut on the spindle. The nut is really hard to access, ended up using the filer part on a nail clipper to hold the nut in place while tightening it via the axle. This nut is 8mm if anybody wants to know the size; but I doubt there will be any 8mm sockets out there with a wall thin enough to fit in there.

    Hopefully the nut stays in place...

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    i had to machine a 8mm socket down to fit my axle nut on my f20's when i broke the axle, so i think it's common for some pedals

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    That is a common problem. We include a thin wall socket with the rebuild kit to tighten the nut on the Crampon Classic.
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    ^thats what makes you guys top notch. Always thinking about the customer. Other companies take note right NOW on how to have satisfied/loyal customers. That's why I've taken an oath to myself to buy as many CB bike products that they offer. Trying to scrape funds now for another frame plus everything CB to go on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fishwrinkle View Post
    Probably an honest brain fart, but still an insult to the bros of bellingham
    Yes brain fart indeed. Sorry to those who insult easily. 8-)

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    Really like my Nukeproof Electron's tons more than my saints, my saints flip, electrons don't - both are still going sweet after a year and i've not serviced either yet. Still I'm shopping for some Gamut Podium's (lighter and thinner) anyone found em for sale anywhere yet?

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    Listen! Polifly Pedal 440g/pair

    Unique pedal design, called the Polifly DX-B350. Proper pin placement. Machined and coated contrast. Dimensions 12x10x2cm. Not light at 440g (1lb, a 1/3 heavier than comparable DH rated pedals, double other OEM designs with smaller platforms), but that's a steel spindle for ya. Good for a beater bike... and the street price is unbeatable considering for the price range, you can only get a cheap loose ball bearing plastic bmx pedal set: $25 shipped.

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    SOON!!!

    Hi Tony,

    Thanks for the email. We don't have a delivery date for the new Podium pedals yet, but they're in final testing so we should know very soon what the production schedule will be. The earliest we will have them is about 45 days. Let me know if you're able to wait that long and I will send you an update with more info when we have it. Thanks very much.

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    Looks like Deity is going opposite of Canfield with concave design TMAC pedal (looks sick anyway, not so sure how they will work):SOC15: Deity Components Teases TMac Signature, Introduces BladeRunner Pedals, BlackLabel Bars, and Micro DM, Cavity 35 Stems

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman086 View Post
    Looks like Deity is going opposite of Canfield with concave design TMAC pedal (looks sick anyway, not so sure how they will work):SOC15: Deity Components Teases TMac Signature, Introduces BladeRunner Pedals, BlackLabel Bars, and Micro DM, Cavity 35 Stems

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    Those remind me of my old speedplays. Same super concave design. Those are really thick though. Well Compared to my Canfields mags.

    I had to do a pedal swap midway in Whistler this year. From the ChroMag Scarbs to the Canfield Magnesium's.

    FOr some reason my drive side Scarbs would not stay on the crank. Would back out every run and I had to gob Locktite all over the thing. Mine and friends theory is they use a really hard metal on the axel. Metal on the crank threads is super hard too and they would just not tighten. My friend has Scarbs too and they backed out on his Atlas RF cranks one day. I also broke a whole pin section in the middle on my 2nd ride. Needless to say they went off my DH bike, Canfields on.

    Going from thick concaves to the super thin convex in whistler was pretty interesting.

    Pedaling to the Lift on the Canfields i'll admit I was going I dunno about these. They feel like feathers on your feet I can't even really tell im standing on pedals. You can sorta feel the Convex at first too it's weird. On trail they are $$$, super sticky make you feel super low on the bike like going OTB is super hard to do.

    I don't think I can DH anymore without these things. 10/10. Oh and they never came close to backing out.

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    I know, right?! Well I think you convinced me to try em. Do you think the Magnesium is too soft; will it be durable enough? I figure if I'm gonna spend that much jingo I might as well go all the way!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gman086 View Post
    I know, right?! Well I think you convinced me to try em. Do you think the Magnesium is too soft; will it be durable enough? I figure if I'm gonna spend that much jingo I might as well go all the way!

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    I think the Mags are plenty strong. It would be hard to really bash them as they are about as thick as a straw on the front side and they come to a edge. My buddy just got the reg ones and they are really nice too. A bit heavier, I might get a set of those for my trail bike or the classics.
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    Quote Originally Posted by daisycutter View Post
    SOON!!!

    Hi Tony,

    Thanks for the email. We don't have a delivery date for the new Podium pedals yet, but they're in final testing so we should know very soon what the production schedule will be. The earliest we will have them is about 45 days. Let me know if you're able to wait that long and I will send you an update with more info when we have it. Thanks very much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by #1ORBUST View Post
    Those remind me of my old speedplays. Same super concave design. Those are really thick though. Well Compared to my Canfields mags.

    I had to do a pedal swap midway in Whistler this year. From the ChroMag Scarbs to the Canfield Magnesium's.

    FOr some reason my drive side Scarbs would not stay on the crank. Would back out every run and I had to gob Locktite all over the thing. Mine and friends theory is they use a really hard metal on the axel. Metal on the crank threads is super hard too and they would just not tighten. My friend has Scarbs too and they backed out on his Atlas RF cranks one day. I also broke a whole pin section in the middle on my 2nd ride. Needless to say they went off my DH bike, Canfields on.

    Going from thick concaves to the super thin convex in whistler was pretty interesting.

    Pedaling to the Lift on the Canfields i'll admit I was going I dunno about these. They feel like feathers on your feet I can't even really tell im standing on pedals. You can sorta feel the Convex at first too it's weird. On trail they are $$$, super sticky make you feel super low on the bike like going OTB is super hard to do.

    I don't think I can DH anymore without these things. 10/10. Oh and they never came close to backing out.

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    So the Canfields win again eh?

    I was told by a coworker to go Clipless - he thinks after a couple months on my new bike I will never want to ride a platform again if I go to clipless.. ( he usually spends $7k on his yeti bikes and goes on 2 week bike vacations with a dozen buddies.. )

    Canfield is having a 2014 model sale, I would really hate myself if I spent $130 on pedals and don't love them to death..

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    Quote Originally Posted by tualmbr View Post
    I was told by a coworker to go Clipless - he thinks after a couple months on my new bike I will never want to ride a platform again if I go to clipless.. ( he usually spends $7k on his yeti bikes and goes on 2 week bike vacations with a dozen buddies.. )
    Well shit guys, better close this ****ing thread down. The co-worker won't allow platforms!

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    Quote Originally Posted by tualmbr View Post
    So the Canfields win again eh?

    I was told by a coworker to go Clipless - he thinks after a couple months on my new bike I will never want to ride a platform again if I go to clipless.. ( he usually spends $7k on his yeti bikes and goes on 2 week bike vacations with a dozen buddies.. )

    Canfield is having a 2014 model sale, I would really hate myself if I spent $130 on pedals and don't love them to death..
    Get your Co worker on a bike with flats and see if he can still bunny hop without being clipped in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    Get your Co worker on a bike with flats and see if he can still bunny hop without being clipped in.
    Now im lost all over again, does this mean I should spend the $130 on platform or get some cheap platform and spend the real $ on clipless.

    Oh wait, this is the platform pedal thread, I guess im not allowed to ask that question.

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    You should actually do just that. Buy a cheap pair and see if you like platforms. You may or may not like them. Sell them if you don't. Clipless is a little harder because you may have to buy shoes as well.

    For me, one of the reasons I like platforms is that I can ride in any pair of sneakers. Just yesterday when I got to the trail head, I realized I forgot my shoes. Rode in the sneakers I was wearing and everything was a-ok. If I had clipless, I wouldn't have been able to ride.

    I've never really looked into clipless, but another thing I like about platforms is that they come in all different shapes and sizes. Just like feet. The Crampons that everyone loves may not work with your foot. The pedals I've been riding the past few years were $64 shipped. I like how they feel so I stick with them.

    One more thing to consider is that when you buy clipless pedals, you also have to buy a pair of shoes if you don't already have them. I don't think there are as many shoe styles available for clipless compared to platform (see my earlier point).

    People like clipless or platforms for the same reason people like Ford or Chevy, Nikon or Canon, etc. Personal preference and experience.

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    So platform is like buying Canon - You want the best, most versatile, easiest to use pedal.

    Well this is good info and you make good points - You probably just talked me into the $27 wellgo wg-3 pedals.

    Problem is, I really want some green pedals - I should have probably mentioned this from the beginning. We all clearly know that black pedals are faster than green pedals - and yet I still want green ones - is it vanity or insanity?

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    I rode clipless for a long time, but switching to flats really helped me with confidence on technical stuff. If I'm going into something that I'm not sure I can make then I would go with flats every time.
    If I was just trying to ride trails faster, and knew I could make everything, then clipless would be a better choice. Been bounced off the pedals a few times with flats, but nothing serious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cerebroside View Post
    I rode clipless for a long time, but switching to flats really helped me with confidence on technical stuff. If I'm going into something that I'm not sure I can make then I would go with flats every time.
    If I was just trying to ride trails faster, and knew I could make everything, then clipless would be a better choice. Been bounced off the pedals a few times with flats, but nothing serious.
    I agree with every word here. Exact same experience and conclusions.
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    C'mon now everybody - let's not get all snotty about this. It's all personal preference, and probably depends where you ride, and if you're coming over from road riding. I started out riding in BC, and our trails are steep, wet, rooty, stunted, etc. Our climbs are usually slow logging road climbs, and frankly, pretty boring. There was no benefit to me, to using clips, and I preferred the flats for being able to bail, and for when I had to walk wet root sections of trail, up or down. I'm riding a specialized enduro, but I also have a stumpjumper 29er. If I lived in Bend Oregon, I'd probably put clipless pedals on the stumpjumper. The only time now I wish I had clipless, is for really fast, rough, slightly descending sections of trail, as those are the times I find my feet get bounced around a little. I've never slipped a pedal though, and have never crashed because of this - or at least not in 5 years.

    If I were you, I would buy a set of cheaper platforms for now (or ask your friends), wait until you're a little more competent, and then decide if you're going to ride clips or keep with flats.
    The other part of the equation, maybe not apparent from this forum, would be to get a good pair of shoes. Soft rubber. Nothing beats 5.10s or depending on your budget, you might find some Sombrios on sale for cheap somewhere.

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    Shimano saint =indestructible 😎

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    Quote Originally Posted by klabautermann View Post
    Shimano saint =indestructible 

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    Along with heavy and thick. And no more indestructible than lighter, thinner and grippier pedals.

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    Fancy, flashy, color coordinated bikes, are only to be ridden if you are very good and very fast.

    I typically ride all black.

    More importantly...

    Wives often distinguish bikes by color. When I get new bikes, if ithey are black, she usually won't notice.

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    I'm amazed at how many are still riding chunky pedals like Saints and Easton Flatboys. The benefits of thin pedals are real, but then again, ignorance is bliss!

    Have FUN!

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