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    So I've been looking for some concave pedals as well, and have tried to find as many side views of pedals as I could find, and I've made a comparison image.
    Note that the comparison can't be 100% precise, it still depends on the angle of the images and if there are any "hidden" features that change the concavity of the pedal. But it should give a decent first impression.

    Platform Pedal Shootout, the best flat is...-vergleich-pedale-v4.jpg

    Click here for the full size comparison image for pedals (concave vs convex)

    The pedals included are:
    Acros A-Flat
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    Burgtec Penthouse MK3
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    Superstar Components Delta
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    Speaking of Hope's pedals and their pins... I've been meaning to ask if any other companies make pedals with pins like the ones on Hope's F20s. Countersunk flared bases seem like a brilliant idea. It should make them less likely to get damaged around the threads, in addition to simply adding strength and support right where they're needed.

    But the F20s are thick by modern standards and not exactly light. I run them on my DH bike but would like something with the same pins on a lighter platform for my AM/FR bike.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NWS View Post
    But the F20s are thick by modern standards and not exactly light
    This was my thinking too, and the only reason I tried the Hope's last..... However, I can not tell any difference in feel regarding 'thickness' when compared to the 12mm thin Oozys they replaced.

    On my scale the Oozys weighed 371g, while the Hopes weighed 396g.

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    I haven't weighed the Origin8 Slimlines that I have on my main bike now, but they're allegedly 308g, or 3oz less than the Hopes. I'd quit looking at more pedals if they had Hope's pins.

    And I'm not convinced that thickness matters much either. I'm perfectly content to use F20s on my DH bike, and they'll probably stay there for as long as I have that bike. But I wonder if Hope could match that weight (or come close to it) if they went to a modern slim design.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NWS View Post
    I haven't weighed the Origin8 Slimlines that I have on my main bike now, but they're allegedly 308g, or 3oz less than the Hopes. I'd quit looking at more pedals if they had Hope's pins.

    And I'm not convinced that thickness matters much either. I'm perfectly content to use F20s on my DH bike, and they'll probably stay there for as long as I have that bike. But I wonder if Hope could match that weight (or come close to it) if they went to a modern slim design.
    How about the Twenty6 Predator pedals?
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    not exactly light at a claimed 405g (chromoly), but they do sell a Ti version at 340g. Super pricey though.

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    I had hard time parting with $140 for Hopes, I don't think I could handle $270. The pin design does seem really cool though, it has the same features I like about Hope, and maybe even better as it looks like they sit pretty deep into the pedal. But if this reviewer's experience is typical, aluminum might not have been the best choice for the pins:

    TWENTY6 PREDATOR pedal Review

    You win some, you lose some, I guess. The pedal itself should last forever... maybe longer than the supply of replacement pins will last.

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    $30 Cheap pedals outclass $100 pedals that look cheap

    #1 sp00n82: nice going on the compilation of side profiles.

    #2 I want to hear about Gamut's Point One Racing platform real feedback on bearing wear in the new model.

    #3 I want to hear about Crank Brothers Stamp pedals and long term durability test

    #4 here is something I found today: Besides the cheap appearance of the spindle section, the outer pedal shape is acceptable with the 100x93 sized platform and claimed 245g weight for the pair, could work for many applications.
    Platform Pedal Shootout, the best flat is...-245g-pedals-100x94-29-shipped.jpg
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    Any updates on the Gamut Podium pedals?
    Do they feel as good as a TMac? Itching to try a new pedal because black friday is right around the corner!

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    This article popped up on Vital this week. might give you some answers.

    Vital MTB Face Off: The Best Flat Pedals - Mountain Bikes Feature Stories - Vital MTB

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    I heard specialized boomslang pedals where the bee's knees..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jojotherider View Post
    This article popped up on Vital this week. might give you some answers.

    Vital MTB Face Off: The Best Flat Pedals - Mountain Bikes Feature Stories - Vital MTB
    Thanks for the article.

    The singletrack sampler (Alex) from youtube said , specialized boomslang pedals where the bee's knees...the guys puts in lots of miles.

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    Thats a pretty heavy pedal. For a similar weight the TMacs felt really nice underfoot

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    Quote Originally Posted by D Bone View Post
    I have a nerve issue in my right foot called mortons nueroma, and it makes finding 'comfortable' pedals tough. The Chromag Contacts were bullet proof and had great levels of grip in terms of pins, but they were a little short front wheel to back wheel and that added to my foot pain a bit.... It isn't like they're tiny, but just a few mms short of what I like in terms of pedal body vs foot feel.

    I'm currently on the "2nd gen" Hope Tech F20s (with the hallow/flat top pins) and they feel like the RF Atlas under foot, and are built like a freakin' tank. I bought them from CRC as most vendors in the US seem to still have the "1st Gen" pedals with the round/smooth-top pins that don't grip nearly as well.

    I have tried, ridden and sold; (2) RF Atlas, Chromag Scarab & Contact, Spank Spike & Oozy, Canfield Crampon Mountains.

    Only the RF had mechanical problems, while every other pedal was solidly designed and constructed, but they just didn't feel right for me and my personal issue.

    The Spank Oozy's were my go-to before the Hopes, and the Crampons were the absolute worst in terms of feel and grip..... not a fan of convex I guess.
    Thanks for the heads up D.

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    Ive changed the pins on the spry xpedo to twin tips and the grip is so much better. If you have these pedals and want more grip, give these pins a try. They are about $20 on ebay

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonlui View Post
    Ive changed the pins on the spry xpedo to twin tips and the grip is so much better. If you have these pedals and want more grip, give these pins a try. They are about $20 on ebay
    that's good to know. I found them here.

    XMX Twin Tip Pins - Xpedo

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    Vital Article verifies the industry impact of this thread, now 2100+ replies deep

    Solid takeaway from the article:

    "The issue with building thin pedals is that the axle and bearing/bushing system has to support the full weight of the rider and do so while putting up with harsh landings, rock strikes, and other abuse. An axle can only be made so thin before it snaps, which means you also have to shrink the size of the bearings or abandon them completely in favor of ultra-thin bushings. Longevity thus becomes an issue and the fact that the axle area ends up being the thickest part of the pedal body does not bode well for grip."

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    In the comments to that article, another new pedal is mentioned:

    https://www.steeleindustries.co.uk/c...platform-pedal

    Doesn't cost a ton, for a metal body design. That's always welcome.
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    Nothing special. 420g concave pedal. TMac comes to mind which is a great pedal, just on the heavy side

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    The price is special :-p
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    SPD < Flat Pedals

    Inspired by the fact that I like to ride in regular shoes with an increase in hike-a-bike terrain and urban environments before/after the ride. How'd I miss this 8 pedal review by Bikepacking? Flat Pedals for Touring and Bikepacking - BIKEPACKING.com

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    Platform Pedal Shootout, the best flat is...-vp-harrier-titanium.jpgPlatform Pedal Shootout, the best flat is...-twenty6-predator-pedal-2012-black-matte.jpgPlatform Pedal Shootout, the best flat is...-hope-f20-pedals.jpg

    In the market for a set of pedals, looking at Hope F20, Harrier Titanium, Gamut Podium, Raceface Atlus. Big feet, sneakers, and CNC details are important down to the pins. Anyone know what happened to Predator from Twenty6?
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    ^ While I haven't tried the Harrier or Gamut, I have the F20 and the Atlas...... Go with the F20s and never look back. The Atlases will last weeks, maybe days before one of them develops lateral play, and the F20s will work for years.

    Don't let the F20s "thick, old school" design throw you, as they are the most comfortable and gripiest pedals I have tried, and I went through a ton before finding the Hopes..... Just make sure you get the 2nd generation pins, not the smooth top pins like in your picture above. (any of the Euro sites should stock the 2nd gen/flat top pins)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joel Fitzgerald View Post
    Yep, that's them.

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    Just picked up a pair of deity tmac for my DH bike. Best pedals I've used to date! I wish they came out sooner so my entire lineup would have but I guess the Bladerunners will have to do on the trail and the compound on the DJ bike...

    If you haven't figured it out yet, I'm a huge deity pedal fan....


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    Have been using Catalyst pedals for a past few weeks. Coming off DMR vaults. Going to write a comprehensive review in a few, but so far – it's the best set of pedals I've had.


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    Quote Originally Posted by metrotuned View Post
    Anyone know what happened to Predator from Twenty6?
    He has a relatively small shop that's absolutely booked solid filling industry contracts. The bike brand is idling for the meantime. He still takes care of warranty issues, though. He's a great guy and while I miss seeing his products on shelves, I'm happy for him that the contract machining has taken off.

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    Idea! DMR V12 vs Gamut Podium vs VP Harrier Altitude

    @evasive - that's solid that another lane opened up, hope to have that small shop back in the industry. Sounds like Point One Racing before being acquired by Gamut

    @themanro looking forward to the pedal, makes a lot of sense with the length of the foot, and especially in comparison with the Vaults which have a reputation for being large and wide

    @D Bone almost picked up a set of Hope F20s but CRC was out of polished silver that I was looking forward to trying.

    Exciting week, I have ditched the SPD XTR and XTR Trail pedals because wearing those darned shoes was uncomfortable anywhere except on the bike and cramped my style anywhere off the bike.

    So on the one bike to rule them all, had an opportunity to try some flats. I've been riding DMR V12 Magnesium pedals, which were bang for the buck and I thought the brass end cap was classy.

    Here are a couple shots from the new setups, which are wide large thin and light.

    I removed the gaudy gold hardware and used black Race Face Atlas hardware for a savings of 11g per pedal.


    DMR V12 Mag 183g/pedal
    Gamut Podium 148g/pedal
    Harrier Altitude (extra machining and ti spindles) 131g/pedal


    All really light even with steel spindles - compare their weights to my first post in this thread where the pedal sets are double triple quadruple the weight and double the stack height. Interesting to see that my Brooklyn Machine Works tenderizer meathook pedals are selling for $400 on ebay.

    The Harrier pedals after tuning ended up at 265.9g for the pedal set. The Gamut Podiums are just under 300g and have more aggressive, taller pins.

    Platform Pedal Shootout, the best flat is...-platform-pedals-harrier-podium-v12.jpgPlatform Pedal Shootout, the best flat is...-platform-pedals-podium-vs-harrier.jpgPlatform Pedal Shootout, the best flat is...-platform-pedals-harrier-podium-side-side.jpg
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    I picked up some Chesters, and for the price they're great.

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    I currently using dmr vault but bend the cage.

    Had anyone used burgtec penthouse mk4 with size 12 five ten shoes. Is it big enough for my feet?

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    love the red and black crank brother 5050s. Debating on these or the Shimano saints.
    any feed back on which one you would go with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slow poke View Post
    love the red and black crank brother 5050s. Debating on these or the Shimano saints.
    any feed back on which one you would go with?
    Neither. In my opinion they are too thick. Too many pedal strikes. I recommend Canfield Brothers crampon mountain pedal.


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    Quote Originally Posted by coolhand80 View Post
    Neither. In my opinion they are too thick. Too many pedal strikes. I recommend Canfield Brothers crampon mountain pedal.


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    This, but if you don't like Canfield any of the other choices that are thinner than the Saints/5050s.

    I had Saints for one ride and took them off. Hated them. Couldn't bring myself to spend the money on Canfield- but found a used pair so I took a chance. Love them, even bought another pair for my second bike.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TwoTone View Post
    This, but if you don't like Canfield any of the other choices that are thinner than the Saints/5050s.

    I had Saints for one ride and took them off. Hated them. Couldn't bring myself to spend the money on Canfield- but found a used pair so I took a chance. Love them, even bought another pair for my second bike.
    I have two pair myself. Love them. Platform Pedal Shootout, the best flat is...-img_3006.jpgPlatform Pedal Shootout, the best flat is...-img_3007.jpg


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    Does it feel odd at all riding convex pedals? So used to more concave.

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    Platform Pedal Shootout, the best flat is...

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    Does it feel odd at all riding convex pedals? So used to more concave.

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    Takes a minute to get used to it. But it actually gives you more foot positions available on the pedal than concave. For example when riding a downhill trail I put the pedal in the arch of my foot. Sticks like glue because of the convex shape and let's you control your bike easier and have more confidence.


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    Quote Originally Posted by coolhand80 View Post
    Neither. In my opinion they are too thick. Too many pedal strikes. I recommend Canfield Brothers crampon mountain pedal.


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    Ouch- 150$. that's a more than I expected to pay. don't mind going to 100 but that is more than what I want to pay for pedals. Any other ideas? they look awesome. what about these

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    I bought the original Crampons for $100 when they were being discontinued, but they were such a revelation that I won't hesitate to spend $150 on the Mountains when the time comes. I prefer to tackle technical sections with my arch over the spindle, so they're a natural fit for me, but I was stunned by how much more efficient pedaling felt with the spindle so close to my foot. Pedaling was noticeably quicker than with thicker flats and made giving up the clips that much easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by phride View Post
    I bought the original Crampons for $100 when they were being discontinued, but they were such a revelation that I won't hesitate to spend $150 on the Mountains when the time comes. I prefer to tackle technical sections with my arch over the spindle, so they're a natural fit for me, but I was stunned by how much more efficient pedaling felt with the spindle so close to my foot. Pedaling was noticeably quicker than with thicker flats and made giving up the clips that much easier.

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    That's the point I was making- yes expensive, but once I bought a cheaper pair of used ones I didn't think twice about spending $150 on the second pair.
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    Canfield Crampons $124 shipped. Go get some. http://store.canfieldbrothers.com/cr...exclusive.html


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    [QUOTE=coolhand80;13075340]Canfield Crampons $124 shipped. Go get some. SHOP CRAMPON MOUNTAIN PEDALS | Canfield Brothers Online Store


    Almost pulled the trigger on some DMR Vault pedals but fell asleep. Lol the ultimate are the same price. What is the difference or the preferred pedals?

    SHOP ULTIMATE PEDALS | Canfield Brothers Online Store

    So between these two and the vault, which ones? Going to pull the trigger today. Thanks for the lead.

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    I own the Ultimates. By far, my favorite platform form factor. However, if you are particular about freespin quality and rebuilds - damn, these wore stupid fast. I limped through a year just increasing my rebuild frequency to silence them and replacing destoryed washers and springs with whatever was local; I should have bought a rebuild kit or 2 right off. I compare that to my Spikes which have more time and never need a lick of attention.

    If I was in the market - I'd go for the mountains since they use sealed bearings. If you cheap-out and get regular ultimates it'll probably be smart to purchase a rebuild kit or two and save the $6 shipping.

    It is worth noting that the function of the Ultimates isn't dramatically compromised and it's about as simple as a hammer - rebuilds take a few minutes tops. Oh and I live in a dry climate but I ride all year around so wet mud types might have different experiences.

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    [QUOTE=Slow poke;13075499]
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    Canfield Crampons $124 shipped. Go get some. SHOP CRAMPON MOUNTAIN PEDALS | Canfield Brothers Online Store


    Almost pulled the trigger on some DMR Vault pedals but fell asleep. Lol the ultimate are the same price. What is the difference or the preferred pedals?

    SHOP ULTIMATE PEDALS | Canfield Brothers Online Store

    So between these two and the vault, which ones? Going to pull the trigger today. Thanks for the lead.

    DMR Vault Flat Pedals | Chain Reaction Cycles
    The ultimates use DU bushings which requires a little maintenance. The newer Mountain pedals use a sealed bearing/ bushing and requires no maintenance.


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    Thanks. Going with the mountains.

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    Mountain's are bigger and heavier. Id those are factors for you. DU bushings are fine

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksonlui View Post
    Mountain's are bigger and heavier. Id those are factors for you. DU bushings are fine

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    thanks- but don't want to be servicing them or changing out bushings later. Ill just stick to the mountains .

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    Got my new Canfield Mountain pedals today. Seems like a better designed pedal than The Canfield ultimates. Thicker pins, bigger pedal and sealed bearing/bushing. Haven't rode them yet. I have two pairs of the ultimates. Platform Pedal Shootout, the best flat is...-img_3910.jpgPlatform Pedal Shootout, the best flat is...-img_3912.jpgPlatform Pedal Shootout, the best flat is...-img_3911.jpg


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    yeah I'm glad I went with the mountains as well. Just installed them and loving them. they look killer!
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    Quote Originally Posted by coolhand80 View Post
    Got my new Canfield Mountain pedals today. Seems like a better designed pedal than The Canfield ultimates.
    raw/silver looks awesome!

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    Slow poke, what bike is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jojotherider View Post
    Slow poke, what bike is that?

    It's a Banshee Phantom- love it. I squeezed in some 29x3 chups. Lol. Slight rub in the rear but it works for now.

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