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    Quote Originally Posted by kubikeman
    Azonic 420

    Extruded body
    CNC machined
    DU/sealed bearings
    W33 & V9 Pins
    Weight: 430g with pins (pair)

    I bought these last year, mostly because I had good luck with their A-Frame pedal, so I thought I would give these a try ( and they match my Outlaw rims ). I'm impressed. The bearings spin smooth as the day I installed them. No play, no slip, nice wide platform pedal and they take a ton of abuse. And only $75 on Pricepoint currently.
    I used these for a while until I rode my buds bike with Deity Decoys on it... Mucho better grip on the Deities. I now ride Deities.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frorider
    in add'n to older, thick pedals (tioga etc), I own 3 pairs of modern pedals i.e. thin profile: point1 podiums, kona wah wahs, and cromo spindle prerunners.

    all 3 are good pedals; all are quite different, with pros/cons.

    - the wah-wah has a big ass platform, great for big feet, and feels amazingly secure with stealth and non-stealth rubber shoes. the weight is heavier than some of the blingy options. durability (bushing, and pedal body) has been good...mine have been hammered for 2 years now. and the price is right. the big platform size means that sometimes (rare) i get a rock strike i'm not expecting e.g. when rising forward to crank on a flat section, or other situations when the pedal is not horizontal.

    - the podium has a very thin cross section w/ no pins under the ball of foot area. Combined with the overall shape, and beveled edges, i almost never hit the rocks with these pedals. Manages to be relatively light and super tough. I think these will last a very long time. However, I don't like these pedals with non-stealth soles; not enough grip. Also, the very pronounced hump on the alu body near the spindle base means you can't position your foot in close to the crank arm. On my DH bike, that's a non-issue, but on my AM bike that gets pedalled up long-ass climbs, i much prefer to have my feet a little closer together.

    - the cromo twenty6 prerunner is a good all-round pedal. pins get mangled pretty easily. it doesn't have the thin feel of the podiums, but it does have more pins and more grip. and for a FR bike that gets pedalled uphill, these pedals are nice since you can position your foot anywhere on the pedal -- no hump. i didn't mind paying $160 for mine, but the regular retail price is kinda high for a part that you know will get beaten on. Have heard bad things about the Ti version from local riders.

    so bottom line for me is that the Podium is my favorite DH pedal, the Prerunner is my favorite AM/FR pedal, and the Kona is a great all-round pedal that I'll continue to use, and will recommend to anyone looking for a good pedal under $100.
    Actually, based on reading your own review, the Wah-wah's are the best.

    Seriously - the point about the 2 pins under the ball of the foot, I think this is a small little difference that gets overlooked. Yes, this body is basically a catalogue part used by many others - BUT - I think only Kona adds the 2 pins in the middle. Don't know how big a difference this makes, but I do know that I like my Wah-wah's.

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    More bling please!

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    Update: I didn't order the Blackspire Sub4. I went with Fly Ruben PC Pedals, 350gr. $15

    If I destroy them on a stair or park bench, throw away and buy another set.. Done..


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    SofaKingHigh: Sweet! Wow, great build, and then the $15 pedals. I wondered what was going on with my riding crew switching to JCPC pedals (the ones sandwiched together without bearings) on their full suspension rigs. Do you have a height? I imagine those plastic pedals are a lot thicker than typical alloys since they need to add more material for strength (fiberglass polycarbonate plastic).
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    Quote Originally Posted by illnacord
    SofaKingHigh: Sweet! Wow, great build, and then the $15 pedals. I wondered what was going on with my riding crew switching to JCPC pedals (the ones sandwiched together without bearings) on their full suspension rigs. Do you have a height? I imagine those plastic pedals are a lot thicker than typical alloys since they need to add more material for strength (fiberglass polycarbonate plastic).
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    Caution;  Merge;  Workers Ahead! More platform pedals

    Top to bottom:

    - Straitline JC Platform Pedals
    - Atomlab Pimplite Pedals
    - Macneil pedals (copied the Atomlab Pimp pedals)
    - Twenty6 Prerunner 2010 urban camo
    - Eclat pedals
    - Fly Bikes Ruben plastic "graphite" pc pedals





    ... still undecided. But I think the consumer has a good number of choices ... hmmm.
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    Hope wellgo goes after well, blackspire design

    p.s. Did wellgo make the blackspire "made in canada" design or did they change the design 20% by flipping around elements like a lego play kit?

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    We the people ... Review Oct '10

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    Hope Wellgo MG-1: bang for the buck

    Wellgo MG-1: bang for the buck contender (why one would buy plastic test pedals over the MG1's as they're the same price point?) Similar to the Tioga MX Comp pedals, except the Wellgo's come in white silver purple and have titanium axle upgrades prevalently available.

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    Point1 Racing Podium Platform Flat Pedals 372g

    Point1 Podium pedals shipping tomorrow!

    Sourced via All Mountain Next, mtbr vikingboy, dark horse racing:

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    Quote Originally Posted by bighitboy
    Throw the wellgo MG-1s in there

    375 grams,

    Super bite,

    1 season per set ( i ride a ton), @ 40 a pair, they are replaceable (like any pedal)

    Best light weight pedal of the entire market, I have years with the model ask anyone!

    wow, where are you finding these for $40 a pair? I've been shopping around and can't find them for that much.
    Does that include tax and shipping, too?
    Thanks.

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    mowerman: eslay is your friend. I'm finding them for sub-$30 shipped. At that price, it blows away any disposable type BMX pedal like the Ruben, Odyssey, Demo PC, etc.
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    good review

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    Quote Originally Posted by illnacord
    mowerman: eslay is your friend. I'm finding them for sub-$30 shipped. At that price, it blows away any disposable type BMX pedal like the Ruben, Odyssey, Demo PC, etc.
    Yea, but with ep pricing I can get 5 pairs of disposable BMX pedals to your one. (Errr. just being a smarta$$)

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    sofakinghigh, true! The guys on my weekly ride roll those JCPC pedals which are plastic and bearingless, with the gold screw nut hardware and plastic bodies but I think their retail is $50?! Most of the BMX plastic pedals are $15 but some of the more brand name pro models are $30+. Every time I think of them though, I keep seeing the plastic test pedals (the ones with orange reflectors) that come on all bikes from the LBS.
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    I have a set of wah wahs. Love the shape and size and feel. Not too stoked on the small pins. Don't get me wrong the grip is more than adequate, I think I prefer the feel over larger pins, but they get bashed out really quick. The threads are so small / fine pitch / not deep and there is not much holding them into the pedal body.

    Still a good pedal but my next set will be Straitline or Point One.

    Speaking of flats. I was on a xc ride a while back where everyone had clipless except for myself. No big deal, that is common. We were geeking out about bike parts on a break until it came to pedals and the common response was "why would anyone spend more than $5 on flat pedals"... I tried to explain but quickly gave up.

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    I just picked up a Turner Rail w/ Kona's. Think they're wah-wah's, but may be older. Like 'em fine but can't say I notice a big difference from my $15 Shadow's on the Hard Rock. Kinda like running shoes, if I don't notice them, no problem! Diggin the looks of those profile's ilna's getting, but the $$$, ouch!!! That said, it's obviously one killer machining job...

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    currently have transition stepdowns ans wellgo mg1s. Had been really happy with the stepdowns on my am ride, but decided to go cheaper for a set for the dh rig. just don't really like the mg1s. pins are too short (which can be fixed with new pins, true) but the platform is just too small for my liking, and my feet aren't that big (10 1/2). For 50 bux, transtions have stood up to a lot of bashing and are good n sticky. Another pair is on order now--anyone want some lightly used mg1s?

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    No one likes Answer Rove Pedals?

    Why not?

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    joeschmoe: considering the Answer Rove pedal is yet another of the dozens upon dozens of rehashed/re-branded HT pedals...if you buy something because choosing a color is considered "custom" then...
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    i just saw sone knockoff pedals on ebay. DIXI is the name. looks like copies of the straitlines and crampons

    ive been rocking some HT AX08s for about 6 mos and no issues. they are a little small and ive gotten a few foot cramps on techy descents though.

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    Happened upon a review of those Podium's where the reviewer would have liked more pegs in the center axle area. Looks like the second photo posted shows a good setup with those longer inside pegs (they're a different color too). Might bear remembering...

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    I have used the Podium pedals for a season and love them. They do not have a weak area with the exception of price. My feet just stick to these pedals like glue, they lessen the amount of pedal rock strikes and have held up to many hours of harsh Platty, Diablo, Mt Snow DHing. I do not regret this purchase thats for sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blue109
    i just saw sone knockoff pedals on ebay. DIXI is the name. looks like copies of the straitlines and crampons
    Their pedals look great and are cheap anybody have them?

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    rockclimber, aint my money but... the dixi ebay pedals are listed at 17mm height. That's no different than the many other generic pedals in height, meaning that although they took a lot of styling cues from Crampon pedals, they are just that, the look without the function. So at $65, it's a ripoff when you could have the real thing for double that with both function and style. Again, aint my money, if you pull the trigger and guinea pig it, please post your review here for us to see.
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    Didn't even see that, thanks!

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    I dunno, those Dixies look plenty low enough to me and a good weight too, might be a good balance of price/performance

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    search some of the old pedal threads. lots of people bashing the HTs until oops.....they figured out its the same exact pedal as the "cool" brands.

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    Idea! Point1 Podium x Brooklyn Machine Works Veggie Burger

    Just got the Point1 Podium pedals, took a shot next to the monstrous Brooklyn Machine Works Veggie Burger pedals (ebay 250719375847). Looks like there are now a pair of USA-made-CNC'd mountain bike pedals on the market! San Jose, California and Brooklyn, New York for the win!

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    New question here. Yet another HT rebrand bites the dust

    HT > Deity rebranded "Decoy 2.0" > Bricklane Bikes rebranded "Flatliner"

    Gotta hand it to Deity and Bricklane, they are the pinnacle of innovation with renaming the pedals!

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    Deity "Decoy 2.0" platform pedals

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    Word to the wise,

    The HTi pedals I have been using on my bike (not a DH or FR rig, forgive me) have suffered greatly in the 6 short months I have been using them. They are the magnesium bodied, 17mm thick stock that looks identical to the Deity pedals pictured above. My lead foot pedal has maybe 1/3 to 1/2 of its original pins left. The holes are not drilled all the way through...probably for a reason...so the pins cannot be replaced (holes get deforemed when pin get ripped out). Sure were a nice, light, grippy, pretty set of pedals when I bought them for $67. Now I am looking at my former pedals, the Sun RIngle Zuzus to figure out why they held up so well for over 2 years. Anywho, no more hex pins for me. They are the weak point for my intended use. I am looking to give the Blackspire Sub4s a shot before I put the Zuzus back on. Anybody out there try the Blackspires yet?
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    i just got my sub4's today and initial impressions are they are the bees knees. retarded light and no place for mud to collect. will have to wait for ride review tho.
    I wish my grass was emo so it would cut itself...

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    Thought these might deserve a look...
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    dark cycles Arachnids. Low profile, light, and grippy. Plus their design stands out among the rest.

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    still like my transition stepdowns. 500-sumthin gs, 60 bux, indestructible for two years . . . great pin placement. not fnacy-boy thin, but can't have it all, I guess . . .

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    @albeant: Good find on the Syntace NUMBERNINE platform pedals. Interesting Syntace would join the market - they are known for their F99 stems weight weenie certified. However, the price is what?! 148 Euros = $220 USD. OK, so we're talking forged 7075, sealed bearings and 348g weight. But...get the F' out of here. The sloppy forged design makes them appear like some MKS Grip King commuter pedals made by Rivendell Bicycle Works. But those are 1/4 the buy in if that.
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    superstar pedals with 7mm+ pins are by far the best pedals ive come across. plus cheap, and great selection of colours.

    here is my modded superstar nano thru pins
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    Those "pins" are way too long. Does your shoe even come in contact with the pedal?

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    These new DMR's (the Vault) certainly look da bidniz:


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    Quote Originally Posted by jasevr4
    Those "pins" are way too long. Does your shoe even come in contact with the pedal?
    well, granted they are screws. but at 6 quid for 50 verse 25 quid per pedal for 'official' pins there was no choice.

    and no my shoe does not touch the pedal, its best that way as then mud does not build up and make the pins shorter, 6 months of running those pins and not a single pedal slip even in the wettest muddiest conditions on steep trails. just have to make sure you put your foot in the right place to start with
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    Quote Originally Posted by bxxer rider
    superstar pedals with 7mm+ pins are by far the best pedals ive come across. plus cheap, and great selection of colours.

    here is my modded superstar nano thru pins
    Have the ER on standby with those things! I thought my tioga mx pedals were bad,

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    Quote Originally Posted by bxxer rider
    superstar pedals with 7mm+ pins are by far the best pedals ive come across. plus cheap, and great selection of colours.

    here is my modded superstar nano thru pins

    I guess you haven't had your pedals stick to your shin yet... or some other body part..

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    My Kona Wah Wahs are toast, developing annoying spindle play. Only times I ever found myself lacking grip with those is bouncing down some pretty serious rockgardens at speed So....

    Stickier??? Stronger??? Thinner???: Canfield Crampon or Point1 Podium. ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by buddhak
    Anybody out there try the Blackspires yet?
    They're awesome The quality for the price is fantastic! I've had HTs, Azonics, Sun Ringles, etc. and there's none of the sharp edges, burs, cheap looking seals, etc. that the other pedals had. Also, the thru pins are a great setup. Been riding them for a few months and haven't lost, or even damaged a pin to the point that I can't easily get it out I'm extremely happy with them so far.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monkei

    Stickier??? Stronger??? Thinner???: Canfield Crampon or Point1 Podium. ??
    Crampon´s? Podiums?... I dunno, they are very good pedals, but they bend easily if you happen to hit stumps on the trail. Besides, i heard those pedals aren´t interchangeable from left to right so you can´t bring just one on your camelbak as a spare, you´ll need to bring a pair which would be a PITA.

    At the end they might be really nice pedals, though.... or maybe not.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ritopc
    Crampon´s? Podiums?... I dunno, they are very good pedals, but they bend easily if you happen to hit stumps on the trail. Besides, i heard those pedals aren´t interchangeable from left to right so you can´t bring just one on your camelbak as a spare, you´ll need to bring a pair which would be a PITA.

    At the end they might be really nice pedals, though.... or maybe not.
    What pedals are interchangeable from left to right?

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    I wondered that too, maybe he means the pedals only, and not the spindles? I've never carried a spare pedal though, so what do I know?

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    I do believe that was a reference to YoPawn and his escapades stump riding...

    As for the Blackspire Sub-4. I have a set and so does a buddy. So far they are impressing me. The only thing is the platform seems a bit narrower. The weight is bang on 350grams for the pair. I also have a set of Dark Cycle Arachnids that I love. Bigger platform than the Blackspire, but also heavier at 440 grams.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mykel
    I do believe that was a reference to YoPawn and his escapades stump riding...

    As for the Blackspire Sub-4. I have a set and so does a buddy. So far they are impressing me. The only thing is the platform seems a bit narrower. The weight is bang on 350grams for the pair. I also have a set of Dark Cycle Arachnids that I love. Bigger platform than the Blackspire, but also heavier at 440 grams.

    michael
    Where did you get your sub-4's? I found some at goose creek cycles online for $85 shipped. Was gonna get them but have never ordered from them. They look great for the price.

    http://store.goosecreekcycles.com/sh...rce=googlebase

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