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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive View Post
    Yes, if you install them point up. The pins bottom out in the holes, but a smaller bore hole continues through the body.
    SO yes, you can install the pins so the keyhole is on the underside and won't get buggered, making removal of buggered pins easy. There is a thread in the canfield forum about the new pedals and it shows most of the available colors. You won't be disappointed.

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    Here goes a question more on the XC/gerenal mtb side of things, but since this is the biggest flat pedals bible I don't think it off topic.

    My girlfriend is initiating on mtb and loving it. She's not ready to clipless (and I don't know she will ever be, or even needs to be), so I want to get her a good pair of flats.

    I'm still trying to decide if I'm going to spend around 25€ or 50€. With the lower price I'm looking at NC-17 STD II or Gusset SlimJims.
    If chose to go higher end I'll chose between the Shimano Saint and the Superstar Nano Thru Pin. Anyone has experiences with these ones? How do they compare? Any help will be apreciated

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    I recommend a THIN pedal for her. Cut down the chance of slipping a pedal and tearing up her legs I'm on my phone so can't find the pedal quickly but there's a $50 pair of nylon pedals that are really thin and have replaceable pins. Maybe Nukeproof makes them? Anyway, they fit the price range and would be really secure and confident inspiring for a newer rider.

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    Ze_Zaskar,
    I'd go with the Saints. They aren't the thinnest, nor the lightest, but they can be expected to keep ticking without attention for longer intervals.

    (Just an overworked mechanic's point of view.)
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    does anyone have Sixpack Skywalker pedals or know a thing or two about them?
    SIXPACK - Pedale Skywalker-skywalker

    they seem very light and to be of quality. just looking into options in getting new flats. any info will be much appreciated.
    thanx

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    DFYFZX, I think those are Nukeproof Electrons or something like this. They look ok, but I have no interest on nylon pedals. But yes, low profile is something that I'm looking for.
    Anyone know these?-
    SIXPACK - Pedale Menace-menaceped

    They look a lot like the praised Superstar Nano Thrupins, but a lot cheaper.

    I'm swaping frames, etc, so in the process I've been riding an older bike that has flat pedals. To my surprise I was able to clear all the climbs that I usually do clipped. I'm also observing that the so called circular pedaling is perfectly possible with flats, just not done the same way.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashas View Post
    does anyone have Sixpack Skywalker pedals or know a thing or two about them?
    SIXPACK - Pedale Skywalker-skywalker

    they seem very light and to be of quality. just looking into options in getting new flats. any info will be much appreciated.
    thanx
    Damn! 290 g per pair with alu bodies and steel axles is seriously light!
    I suspect the axles are very thin, not unlike those in Echo SL 2011 (which I broke).
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    Spent way too much time reading this thread, and of course ended up ordering a pedal that I don't recall seeing on it. Seems everyone gave up on VP Components after seeing a fella's broken pedal (and hangdog review when he received some free stuff).

    I ordered the VP Components Vice off of Amazon for ~$65. There's some specs there and on the VP USA website.

    I'd post links and images but, well...I can't...

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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Random Psycho View Post
    Damn! 290 g per pair with alu bodies and steel axles is seriously light!
    I suspect the axles are very thin, not unlike those in Echo SL 2011 (which I broke).
    yes it is seriously light. that's why I wanted to see from people who actually used them how they tick. Sixpack seem to be a serious DH components company so I think this pedals are not rubbish. they just seem way too light for the materials used. they also have only 7 pins which may or may not be problematic - and that feature is my main concern. slipage is out of the question, of course. and above all, I don't want to have pedals prone to breaking because they're too light.

    so far the best light pedals I tried (not owned) were by far HT pedals.

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    ashas,
    also note that the pins on these are not the lightest variety -- I wonder whether the claimed weight is with those pins or not.

    And they somehow managed to cram THREE sealed ball bearings (and a bushing) per pedal. Between 13 mm profiles and short axles, I'd think that the axles have to be made of unobtainium
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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Random Psycho View Post
    ashas,
    also note that the pins on these are not the lightest variety -- I wonder whether the claimed weight is with those pins or not.

    And they somehow managed to cram THREE sealed ball bearings (and a bushing) per pedal. Between 13 mm profiles and short axles, I'd think that the axles have to be made of unobtainium
    dunno nothing about those pins but I assume everything can just go lighter with a simple upgrade (ok, shaving couple of grams is super-anal, I know, but there is a possibility, right?)

    they indeed managed to put all the goodies there in such a small space.
    I really hope someone that uses them will say a word or two about them.

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    Just got these,


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    Nice pedals. How are you liking them?

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    They seem to work well, slightly shorter, narrower, and thinner than my previous pedals. I haven't used them on a trail yet, but we'll see.

    Here's a comparison.


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    I've read thru this entire thread today and I've come to a conclusion of two pedals:

    The Straitline AMP''s OR the Spank Spike's. I am leaning towards the Spike's however I do have a 10.5-11 sized shoe so I'm starting to think I may fit better on the smaller platform.

    What do you guys think; AMP's or the Spank's?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker01 View Post
    I've read thru this entire thread today and I've come to a conclusion of two pedals:

    The Straitline AMP''s OR the Spank Spike's. I am leaning towards the Spike's however I do have a 10.5-11 sized shoe so I'm starting to think I may fit better on the smaller platform.

    What do you guys think; AMP's or the Spank's?
    Just got a set of spikes that I can't wait to try this weekend.


    To replace my seemingly fragile sub4's.
    Lost half of this one just riding along... and hitting a post that was obscured by tall bush.


    and busted this one by landing a decent sized drop. not sure if it was the pressure of my foot or a rock buried under the pumice that did the damage.


    I liked the sub4's but they just aren't tough enough.

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    Do you think it's possible for you to measure the Spikes for me? Width and Lenght please if you can?

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    They just don't make aluminum like they used to!
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    If anyone else on here has the Spank pedals and are kind enough to give me some measurements on them it would be great. Again, i'm debating between them and the Straitline AMPs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Striker01 View Post
    If anyone else on here has the Spank pedals and are kind enough to give me some measurements on them it would be great. Again, i'm debating between them and the Straitline AMPs!
    11cm wide
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    You're the man- thanks! They don't appear to be too big at all.

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    I had a few chances to ride my spanks before I wrecked and am off the bike for a month and a half.
    I dig em!
    The size is one of the selling points, pretty damn thin but wide and long enough for my size 15's
    With my FiveTens and the full load of pins, arguably too grippy
    (but that comes from someone who usually rides plastic pedals + 510s, and reducing the number of pins is stupid easy if you're like me and enjoy easy repositioning of your feet)

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    I was just gonna post pics of the spanks. They feel pretty good under the feet and really grippy with all 20 pins in. Can't wait to try them out on the trail and in the bike park.

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    Vp-69

    These on my Sombrio's sole.... Cant touch it.
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    Any more impressions of the new Shimano Saint pedal? I would like to see more pics of the Saint compared to other pedals.

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    I've been looking at these pedals, can get a really good deal on them. Any experience with them around here?
    My doubt is with the little raise in the platform that they have, seems to me that it could be unconfortable with some shoes, or even compromise the use of the pins next to it:


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    My impression of the saints:

    Slightly thinner, slightly shorter, a lot wider than stock demo pedals from specialized. They spin well and are plenty grippy with its 9 pins per side of each pedal combined with the concave shape. However, if you like your pedals to be super close to the cranks, this might not be for you. The selling point for me was the price. Much cheaper than a lot of other options. My intention was to save for some crampons, but they went out of stock before I could muster the $$ to buy them. Plus the saints look stealthy and I haven't had as many pedal strikes yet (might be because I'm riding better though).

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    Were you able to find Saint's in the USA please?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelagic View Post
    Were you able to find Saint's in the USA please?
    Ya. Just search.

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    Quote Originally Posted by howardyudoing View Post
    My impression of the saints:

    Slightly thinner, slightly shorter, a lot wider than stock demo pedals from specialized. They spin well and are plenty grippy with its 9 pins per side of each pedal combined with the concave shape. However, if you like your pedals to be super close to the cranks, this might not be for you. The selling point for me was the price. Much cheaper than a lot of other options. My intention was to save for some crampons, but they went out of stock before I could muster the $$ to buy them. Plus the saints look stealthy and I haven't had as many pedal strikes yet (might be because I'm riding better though).
    That highlighted part is why I'm so interested. The chainstays on my 2012 Enduro Evo are so wide that I catch my heels a lot while pedaling. I tried the Straitline AMPs, but they are too small. DeFactos really don't feel much bigger and they are tucked in pretty far too. The Spank Spikes have a good shape, but it looks like I would have to stack washers to keep them from rubbing the cranks or crank boots. I haven't seen all I'd like to see on the Saints, but I'm going to roll the dice. If anyone else is intersted in them, these guys have a pretty good deal going on: PlanetCyclery on Ebay (I have no association other than having just bought a set from there.)

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    Last edited by Pelagic; 07-26-2012 at 10:25 PM. Reason: Stooping to a new low...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelagic View Post
    Were you able to find Saint's in the USA please?
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    Thanks! Much obliged. Last week I checked and everyone was still waiting to be able to fill orders.
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    Quote Originally Posted by chadalex78 View Post
    These on my Sombrio's sole.... Cant touch it.
    I've been eyeing those VPs but I can't get past the fact that there's only 5 pins. I lose 2 or 3 every ride. That's not good odds...

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    Quote Originally Posted by big0mike View Post
    I've been eyeing those VPs but I can't get past the fact that there's only 5 pins. I lose 2 or 3 every ride. That's not good odds...
    What kind of pedals are you losing 2-3 pins out of on each ride? It probably doesn't help the situation much, but there are six pins on the VP-69. There are only five on the older VP-59. I have a set of the VP-69s that I haven't put on a bike yet. I bought them for my hardtail/trainer bike. They seem like solid pedals and are an interesting design. Let me know if you want to check them out in person. I'm only about 6 miles from South Mountain.

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    The new Saints are nice, been riding on them for ten days.

    Crampons are better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by recitio View Post
    The new Saints are nice, been riding on them for ten days.

    Crampons are better.
    Should be for 2-3 times the price...

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    Just started riding new crampon ultimates - ridiculously sick. The non-exposed spindle is a major upgrade, and the tapered set screws are awesome. Also very very light. Still not as sticky as twenty6's with fresh pins though. Tough to call a favorite between the ultimates and the predators, but definitely my two favorite platforms out there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yardstick View Post
    What kind of pedals are you losing 2-3 pins out of on each ride?
    HT MN01AT
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    I was told they are a Diety Decoy knock off and I figured for ~$50 it would be a good starter pedal for attempting flats again. I've been running them for about a year and a half and currently have several holes that have been ripped/reamed out so I'm looking for a replacement set soon.

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    Superstar Dreadnought CNC Pedals what are they like ?

    Weight: 460g per pair
    Price: £71.99 (AUD $108)
    Titanium axle upgrade available +£40.00 (AUD $60)

    Are they worth it comments please........
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    Point One Racing Podium Pedals

    Any one have access to Point One Racing??? I have called and left messages to their 408 number and sent multiple emails to info@pointoneracing.com asking for help with my Podium Pedals. The bearing exploded or something fell apart that used to consist of a bearing (grinding/crunch sounds when pedaling), and I would like to either send in the pedals or get a bearing kit (but do not know what tools are needed to remove and press in replacement bearings). It's been over a week so I do not want to overreact with their customer service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ze_Zaskar View Post
    Here goes a question more on the XC/gerenal mtb side of things, but since this is the biggest flat pedals bible I don't think it off topic.

    My girlfriend is initiating on mtb and loving it. She's not ready to clipless (and I don't know she will ever be, or even needs to be), so I want to get her a good pair of flats.

    I'm still trying to decide if I'm going to spend around 25€ or 50€. With the lower price I'm looking at NC-17 STD II or Gusset SlimJims.
    If chose to go higher end I'll chose between the Shimano Saint and the Superstar Nano Thru Pin. Anyone has experiences with these ones? How do they compare? Any help will be apreciated
    I don't know if you have decided yet but i can highly recommend the Superstar Thru Pin. I run them and they are thin enough and the grip is great. I run 5-10 shoes and I haven't lost grip once. Many riders around here swear by them. It looks like they have a sale now.

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    ^ Good luck...I was left in the dust with a DM stem failure from them.

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    I have been pretty stoked on the durability of the KCNC Steady pedal. It's pretty grippy and it has held up to rough use.
    Check out www.zencyclery.com for fully customizable, handbuilt wheels.

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    Quote Originally Posted by haakan View Post
    I don't know if you have decided yet but i can highly recommend the Superstar Thru Pin. I run them and they are thin enough and the grip is great. I run 5-10 shoes and I haven't lost grip once. Many riders around here swear by them. It looks like they have a sale now.
    Thank you very much. I wasn't aware of their sale. I'll go with the Superstars. I'm trying to decide between the grub screw vs thru bolt now, pending to the thru bolt side

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    I took pics of some familiar pedals alongside the new Shimano Saint today. I'll apologize in advance for the pic quality. It's hot outside so I was dealing with crap indoor light and didn't feel like hauling out the big camera gear to get a "studio" like shot. I think you'll get the idea anyway!

    This should also preemptively answer the question: Yes, the Straitline pins will thread into the Saints, but the pedals need a little massaging to allow for the slight chamfer on the pin.
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    NIce, thanks for the comparison. Interesting to note in the second picture how far the pedal surface is from the crank arm, and how far out they extend. Hadn't really thought about that...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pelagic View Post
    NIce, thanks for the comparison. Interesting to note in the second picture how far the pedal surface is from the crank arm, and how far out they extend. Hadn't really thought about that...
    That's actually something I have been specifically looking for after my experience with the AMPs. Being a bigger person on an XL Specialized Enduro with its big chainstays and wide, 142mm rear hub, I almost couldn't pedal without clipping my heels. The DeFactos are slightly better, but I'm really hoping the much wider stance of the Saints helps reduce the amount I have to force my toes in.

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    Sure look like they should do the trick. Quite a difference from far left to far right, maybe .75"? I like the way those gray VP's look, but leaning toward the Shimmy's to be honest.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ze_Zaskar View Post
    Thank you very much. I wasn't aware of their sale. I'll go with the Superstars. I'm trying to decide between the grub screw vs thru bolt now, pending to the thru bolt side
    Go with the thru pins.
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