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    Quote Originally Posted by keepbalanced View Post
    I have been wearing vans while riding for a long time, how do the red baron / other freeride shoes compare to vans? they look pretty similar to me. Rubber stickier maybe?
    I've not worn Vans but there isn't a shoe that's as sticky as the 510s.

    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    Too bad they are all bulky and goofy looking as hell (same goes for Teva Links). I'm already hitting the chainstays sometimes with my size 12 Vans with run on the narrow side. I can't imagine riding with these joints. But I'm looking to try something new as I go through 2-3 pairs a season of Vans. The Point1 Podium just shred the waffle soles like no other. Grip is good, but the shoe could be stiffer a tad. Plus I'm so used to low cut shoes, well below the ankles like most Vans.
    First off, they aren't all goofing looking. Some are, sure, but there's several choices of just black, black/gray, white, white/black. And, with the exception of the mid- and high-tops they look like sneakers. Pretty "normal" stuff.

    Plus, if you're worried about how you look riding I think you're doing it wrong. I catch hell every ride I take from my buddies because of all the sh|t I wear. An actual quote from today: "A snot yellow bike, purple shoes, red shorts, and a baby blue jersey. Are you Fing color blind?"

    As long as the bike is upright and I'm shredding nothing else matters. YMMV.

    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyHank View Post
    My UPS Spanked me yesterday!
    Save that picture. I you're anything like me they'll be beat to sh|t and unrecognizable inside of a month. But they'll still grip like new. And, amazingly, the pins are very tough. With my HT decoy knockoffs I replaced 2-6 pins EVERY ride. I've had these Spikes for at least 6 months and I've replaced ONE.

    You'll love them with the new 510s as long as you give it several weeks to acclimate to flats

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    Mine weren't showing as much wear until I started riding the twenty6 Predators. They shred soles.

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    Loved your review! Checking parts with other brands is always the best!!! Thanks for the info!

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    Quote Originally Posted by big0mike View Post
    You'll love them with the new 510s as long as you give it several weeks to acclimate to flats
    Thanks Mike, I know I wouldn't have bought the Spikes had you not influenced my purchase Thanks to you and everyone else I'm looking forward to the transition to flats. Now I'll attempt to get my teenage wheelie technique back in order. No way I was going to attempt a clipped in wheelie and it'll be good to be able to put my foot down while carving if necessary.

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    agree with hank about "Being clipped in isn't always the greatest." Although I do miss being able to pull up on the peddles on a difficult uphill. But having said that, being able to bail / put a foot down when going fast or jumping off things is essential for me!

    So what I am gathering is that the red barons / other freeride shoes have a more durable sole than vans and a stiffer sole. Both seem like good attributes that I am currently missing. Are they very comfortable for walking around in after the ride / if you have to hike or carry your bike?

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    Quote Originally Posted by keepbalanced View Post
    Are they very comfortable for walking around in after the ride / if you have to hike or carry your bike?
    Comfortable ? I can't take mine off !

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    I rode in Vans for over 30 years from my BMX days to current day mountain biking. Swore by them and never considered wearing another shoe on a bike until I picked up a pair of Five Tens back in September recommended by a friend. I have NEVER been more comfortable on the bike. In dry, wet, or muddy conditions... they never slip. The "Stealth" rubber soles stick so well that I cannot reposition my foot on the pedal without lifting it first, no sliding it around like you can with Vans. Plus, they offer so much more support so you don't feel like your foot is flexing over the pedals.

    Very comfortable off the bike as well, they just feel like a standard skate shoe. I still wear Vans but no longer on the bike.

    Checkout Backcountry.com, they usually have some killer deals on closeout Five Tens.

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    thanks for the sound advice guys, I am gonna look into getting some of these shoes

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    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    Too bad they are all bulky and goofy looking as hell (same goes for Teva Links). I'm already hitting the chainstays sometimes with my size 12 Vans with run on the narrow side. I can't imagine riding with these joints. But I'm looking to try something new as I go through 2-3 pairs a season of Vans. The Point1 Podium just shred the waffle soles like no other. Grip is good, but the shoe could be stiffer a tad. Plus I'm so used to low cut shoes, well below the ankles like most Vans.

    The Shimano AM41 is somewhat passable to me in the looks department, I'm might try those this season.
    The Teva Links come in all black, and the Pinner's come in more toned down colors and are cheaper, too. I think they look like normal street/ skate shoes, and are a ton less bulky than the stiffer 5.10's.

    My Pinner's are nearly as stiff as my Impact 2's, but not quite as sticky. Not that they need to be, I think the 5.10's are a bit over the top, traction-wise, with decent pedals.
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    I like all black shoes, are the Teva links nice?

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    Quote Originally Posted by keepbalanced View Post
    I like all black shoes, are the Teva links nice?
    I hate when chicks buy white stuff. Take them out for coffee or Italian food and wham it's a rag. Dirt looks good on Black, and it washes right off.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DirtyHank View Post
    I hate when chicks buy white stuff. Take them out for coffee or Italian food and wham it's a rag. Dirt looks good on Black, and it washes right off.

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    couldn't agree more, always drives my girl crazy when she asks what is my favorite color... black... uggg thats not even a color, its a shade.... haha

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    I remember reading somewhere on this forum about a member selling his own set of pedals--does anyone have a link to that? I thought it was in this thread.

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    Is there any one pedal that holds up to a heavy ride best? 240-250 lbs?
    I like the Spank spikes just not sure they will hold up to the beef put on them.

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    Shimano?

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    For greater spindle strength and fatigue resistance you want the spindle thicker, smoother shaped and made of stronger and more quality material. All of these properties converge, for a good example, on Shimano pedals like MX80, I think.

    Straitline axles are also very beefy.
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    Hound made a good question, and got me thinking...

    was inquiring about magnesium pedals with titanium spindles lately - to minimise weight on (already) light bike. that usually tends to also minimalise the security of riding, from what I gathered.

    magnesium is not that resistant, you can easily chip it and destroy your pin holes with light crashes and titanium spindles have max weight limitations.

    asked HT about their MExxT pedals and they told me 85 kg - which is very low, if you ask me.

    they probably use 6al-4v titanium, most commonly used titanium in bike industry, from what I gathered.
    you now also have TiSpindle and they make titanium spindles with max weight limitation of 106 kg.
    that's only because they use US military Ti-6Q2 titanium - obviously superior to the 6al-4v.
    unfortunately - they make only handful of spindle types - too bad...

    I was actually thinking - what is the max weight limitation for cro-moly and other material pedal spindles? would love to see how those compare.

    if anyone has this kind of info, please share.

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    I went from some heavy Animal BMX pedals (super great grip though) to lighter and thinner Blackspire pedals.




    However, the grip was terrible in anything but sticky soled shoes (I ride in hikers) so had to add some pins. Some allen pan head 4x8mm screws were perfect. Cost me $4 to add 16 pins. Just did the corners for now. Much better traction. May be too much if I go with Five tens, but that's this spring.


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    Ashas, I was told that I should stay away from pedals that have Ti spindles as they would flex to much.
    I have a old set of Crupi BMX pedals I used before clipping in. However they would shred your shins if you missed a pedal. I still have wounds you can see on my shins from them 8 years ago. They are very close to the old Hutch bear trap pedals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hound View Post
    Ashas, I was told that I should stay away from pedals that have Ti spindles as they would flex to much.
    Yes, even Ti6Q2 spindles are not as strong as good steel ones, if all other conditions are equal.
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    Quote Originally Posted by J. Random Psycho View Post
    Yes, even Ti6Q2 spindles are not as strong as good steel ones, if all other conditions are equal.
    comparing Ti-6Q2 titanium to 6al-4v, there is known minimum of at least 20 kg of rider's maximum weight between the two (don't know the difference in weight between those sipndles themselves, but would be cool to know).

    cromoly and steel ones obviously have superiority over titanium is handling riders weight, but would be great to know by how much. are we talking 10-20-30 kg or like tons? just out of curiosity...

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    Well, 4130 CrMo steel has almost twice the elasticity modulus of 6Al-4V titanium (205 vs 114 GPa). This means it deflects only half as much under the same weight, which is good because smaller deflection slows or even prevents (depending on material quality, applied weight and resultant deflection) fatigue accumulation under cyclical load.

    I have not found modulus of elasticity value for Ti6Q2 though, I guess it's somewhere in between those, but closer to that of 6Al-4V.

    Strength-wise, numbers can be found that state yield strength of heat treated 4130 steel in about the range of 0.5 to 1.5 of 6Al-4V yield strength. Which can mean that steel axles treated to lower yield strengths can be bent more easily than Ti ones. But it's not the bending scenario that I would worry most about for a heavy rider, it's how well the spindles resist fatigue, because fatigue failures are sudden and result in complete disintegration of the part. As in, you're just hammering along and SNAP! goes your rib against the stem from sudden disappearance of pedal support on your power stroke.


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    I, for one, don't ever want to experience that snap.
    I ride awful enough to hurt myself even without that

    but, truth be spoken, this new gen of thin pedals like HT's AE03, of CB Crampons is actually so light, <400g, even <350g, it's ridiculous.
    HT's lightest mag-ti combo pedals is barely over 200 g, incredible.

    I don't know how much weight is going to be shed with the next gen, and what kind of materials are going to be used. I just have to say that I like this fast technological pace.
    if you look now, in 2013., back to ten years ago - those bikes look now like relics from '70s.

    and the jump from steel to aluminium, which was considered foolishness, is nothing compared to jump from aluminium to carbon fiber.
    it's just amazing to see that level of advancement available to average Joe.
    my bikes are now more expensive then average car - crazy

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    I have no idea what better materials could be used in pedals without redesigning the entire crank to pedal interface..

    BTW, for a heavy rider who often bends steel spindles on a certain model of pedals it would make sense to looks for thicker, stronger heat treated, but steel spindles anyway.
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    yes, I also think new interface designs will emerge.
    and yes - anyone over 85-90 kg of weight shouldn't use ti spindles - that's just asking for trouble.

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    Just pulled the trigger on some spank spikes from Cambria for $109.99 to go with my $60 freeriders. Now to wait for UPS...

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    Bought some Crampon Ultimates. Will be here with brown Santa (Cupid?) on Thusday.

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    I've my DX for 5 years now, without any maintenance, very happy and lucky. Everything changed on 2 bikes, except those pedals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    Bought some Crampon Ultimates. Will be here with brown Santa (Cupid?) on Thusday.
    You will love them
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    I switched from the ultimates back to my vaults and while the pedal dimension is just a few millimeters bigger it makes all the difference. Love 'em

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    Just replaced my Shimano Saint Pedals with the Canfield Crampon ultimate, definitely a lot more grip!




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    Quote Originally Posted by CoppellStereo View Post
    Just replaced my Shimano Saint Pedals with the Canfield Crampon ultimate, definitely a lot more grip!



    Nice match on the blue!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bad andy View Post
    Nice match on the blue!
    Thanks! I had a hard time picking the color but it's almost an exact match!

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    Hi!

    I have just registered and today is my first post! First of all, I would like to say I'm pleased for taking part in this forum, I think there is a lot of rich information. The second, I write from Málaga (Spain) so I apologize for my English level, it is not very good...

    Well, let's talk about bikes... I have a question related to this matter. I admit that I have not read the 42 pages because sincerely there are a lot of words I don't unterstand because of the language, so I will directly explain my doubt: next week, I am going to buy a new bike (Ibis Mojo HD) and I would like to use flat pedals. I have never used this kind of pedals and these days I have been searching on the Internet information and I have choosen three options (not neccesary in this order): Point One Racing Podium, Canfield Crampon Ultimate or Spank Spike pedals.

    As you can say, I prefer thin and light pedals and I think that these three options are the best.

    According to your experience and knowledge (I'm sure that better than mine), which option is the best for you?

    To help you, I'm going to say that I give priority to grip and efficiency, because relative to phisical characteristics, the three options are very similar (thinness and lightness).


    Thank you very much!
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    Re: Platform Pedal Shootout, the best flat is...

    I've heard lots of good things about the spank spikes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobanovskyy View Post
    Hi!

    I have just registered and today is my first post! First of all, I would like to say I'm pleased for taking part in this forum, I think there is a lot of rich information. The second, I write from Málaga (Spain) so I apologize for my English level, it is not very good...

    Well, let's talk about bikes... I have a question related to this matter. I admit that I have not read the 42 pages because sincerely there are a lot of words I don't unterstand because of the language, so I will directly explain my doubt: next week, I am going to buy a new bike (Ibis Mojo HD) and I would like to use flat pedals. I have never used this kind of pedals and these days I have been searching on the Internet information and I have choosen three options (not neccesary in this order): Point One Racing Podium, Canfield Crampon Ultimate or Spank Spike pedals.

    As you can say, I prefer thin and light pedals and I think that these three options are the best.

    According to your experience and knowledge (I'm sure that better than mine), which option is the best for you?

    To help you, I'm going to say that I give priority to grip and efficiency, because relative to phisical characteristics, the three options are very similar (thinness and lightness).


    Thank you very much!
    Just be sure that you pickup a good pair of shoes along with your new pedal purchase. Five Tens have incredible grip and have never let me down. Paired up with my Deity Decoy pedals... awesome!!

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    Platform Pedal Shootout, the best flat is...

    Quote Originally Posted by cgjeff View Post
    Just be sure that you pickup a good pair of shoes along with your new pedal purchase. Five Tens have incredible grip and have never let me down. Paired up with my Deity Decoy pedals... awesome!!
    Absolutely loved the grip on my decoys, but had twice as many pedal strikes as on my VP Vice, which didn't grip as well. Sold the VP's, kept the Decoys for a rainy day, bought some Crampon Ultimates that I've yet to put on the dirt due to another issue with my bike. I've read much about the grip of the CUs and the thin profile suggests fewer strikes so I'm hoping I have the best of both worlds. Also using 510 Freeriders, which felt clunky and weird when I first tried them on. They're like second skin now, since they've become just a bit more flexible, and they grip like crazy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobanovskyy View Post

    Well, let's talk about bikes... I have a question related to this matter. I admit that I have not read the 42 pages because sincerely there are a lot of words I don't unterstand because of the language, so I will directly explain my doubt: next week, I am going to buy a new bike (Ibis Mojo HD) and I would like to use flat pedals. I have never used this kind of pedals and these days I have been searching on the Internet information and I have choosen three options (not neccesary in this order): Point One Racing Podium, Canfield Crampon Ultimate or Spank Spike pedals.
    Welcome Lobanovskyy,

    I believe the 3 pedals you picked are all good choices. I have Spank Spikes on my trail bike and Crampons on my DH bike so I have had quite a bit of experience with both of those. Although the platform size is very similar on both pedals (about 4"x4") the Crampons just feel like a bigger pedal for some reason. Probably because the pins that come with the Crampons are so much taller your foot DOES NOT move at all once planted.

    The Spanks also provide very good grip and have a couple extra pins towards the center of the platform which I like but my foot doesn't feel as planted as the Crampons do, but that is not necessarily a bad thing because I like to ride a lot of slow technical stuff and obstacles that I need to pull my foot off more often. It is also easier to change foot position on the Spanks without having to pick your foot all the way off the pedal. So for this type of riding I prefer the Spanks. The Spanks have also taken quite a beating (see pic on post #946) and are still rock solid with no signs of play or bearing fatigue.

    On my DH bike I like my feet as securely planted as possible so I prefer the bigger feel and more solid grip of the Crampons. However, because the Crampons are so thin there is quite a bit of exposed axle which I could see a potential for some squeaky shoes on long climbs, but that is not an issue for me on the DH bike.

    I do not have any experience with the Podiums, but I have heard good things so that is all I can comment on those.

    Like other have mentioned, a good pair of flat pedal specific shoes is the key to getting the most out of your pedal. I thought I had good grip with my skate shoes but just got a pair of 5.10 Freeriders and now I know what real grip feels like - amazing.

    Good luck with your decision - I'm pretty sure you will be happy with any of those pedals you narrowed your search down to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobanovskyy View Post
    Hi!

    I have just registered and today is my first post! First of all, I would like to say I'm pleased for taking part in this forum, I think there is a lot of rich information. The second, I write from Málaga (Spain) so I apologize for my English level, it is not very good...

    Well, let's talk about bikes... I have a question related to this matter. I admit that I have not read the 42 pages because sincerely there are a lot of words I don't unterstand because of the language, so I will directly explain my doubt: next week, I am going to buy a new bike (Ibis Mojo HD) and I would like to use flat pedals. I have never used this kind of pedals and these days I have been searching on the Internet information and I have choosen three options (not neccesary in this order): Point One Racing Podium, Canfield Crampon Ultimate or Spank Spike pedals.

    As you can say, I prefer thin and light pedals and I think that these three options are the best.

    According to your experience and knowledge (I'm sure that better than mine), which option is the best for you?

    To help you, I'm going to say that I give priority to grip and efficiency, because relative to phisical characteristics, the three options are very similar (thinness and lightness).


    Thank you very much!

    I think the Canfield Brother Crampon Ultimate would be the pedal for you! Thin and light as well as very durable!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CoppellStereo View Post
    I think the Canfield Brother Crampon Ultimate would be the pedal for you! Thin and light as well as very durable!
    A bit premature no? How long have you been riding on them?
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    Re: Platform Pedal Shootout, the best flat is...

    Quote Originally Posted by eurospek View Post
    A bit premature no? How long have you been riding on them?
    Only a few times, I guess durable was a bad word choice, very well made is what I was going for, I can't attest to durability yet.

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    Thank you very much for your quick answers!

    According to the shoes, I have read in forums that 5.10 shoes are the best for flat pedals and I don't doubt that it is true. The problem is I don't like their desings, I find them a bit tacky (it's only my opinion).

    The shoes I have choosen are Vans X Colony Wylie. I'm not sure but I think they are pointed to BMX style so I don't know how they "works" with flat pedals in all mountain style...

    Have somebody use these shoes?


    Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobanovskyy View Post
    Thank you very much for your quick answers!

    According to the shoes, I have read in forums that 5.10 shoes are the best for flat pedals and I don't doubt that it is true. The problem is I don't like their desings, I find them a bit tacky (it's only my opinion).

    The shoes I have choosen are Vans X Colony Wylie. I'm not sure but I think they are pointed to BMX style so I don't know how they "works" with flat pedals in all mountain style...

    Have somebody use these shoes?


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    I am confused with the information I am reading because it seems that the Crampon Ultimate's main disadvantage is the "squeaky problems", but I don't understand it if we compare these pedals with Spank Spike one. Apparently, both models have the same desing, haven't they? So, if Crampon Ultimate are squeaky, Spank Spike would have the same problem...

    Concerning to Podium, are there any more opinions?


    Thanks!

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    I LOVE my Podiums, they really are fantastic. Light-weight, durable, sticky, sturdy STEEL pins, bearings throughout (no DU bushings), and just general awesomeness.

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    I am confused with the information I am reading because it seems that the Crampon Ultimate's main disadvantage is the "squeaky problems", but I don't understand it if we compare these pedals with Spank Spike one. Apparently, both models have the same desing, haven't they? So, if Crampon Ultimate are squeaky, Spank Spike would have the same problem...

    Concerning to Podium, are there any more opinions?


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    I think people aren't differentiating between the Crampon Classic and the Crampon Ultimates. The Classic has the exposed spindle and had squeak issues. The Ultimates are a different design and, like the Spikes, don't squeak.

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    Well, to sum up, I would like to make a survey in order to know wich option is the most popular for you. So, if you don't mind, I would like that you post with one of the three options of pedals that I mentioned before (Point One Racing Podium, Canfield Crampon Ultimate or Spank Spike).


    Thank you very much for your help and collaboration!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobanovskyy View Post
    Well, to sum up, I would like to make a survey in order to know wich option is the most popular for you. So, if you don't mind, I would like that you post with one of the three options of pedals that I mentioned before (Point One Racing Podium, Canfield Crampon Ultimate or Spank Spike).


    Thank you very much for your help and collaboration!
    I doubt you'll find your survey to be conclusive. Those 3 are probably the most popular pedals when it comes to expensive, well made, thin flats. In my research on the topic, there's not much that separates the 3, but for price.

    That said, I went with the Ultimates. They're the thinnest, they stick like glue, and Canfield is known for great customer service, should something go wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by scvkurt03 View Post
    I doubt you'll find your survey to be conclusive. Those 3 are probably the most popular pedals when it comes to expensive, well made, thin flats. In my research on the topic, there's not much that separates the 3, but for price.

    That said, I went with the Ultimates. They're the thinnest, they stick like glue, and Canfield is known for great service, should something go wrong.
    Ok, then, 1 point for Crampon Ultimate!


    Thanks, scvkurt03.

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    The Canfield Brothers Crampon Ultimates are sweet..
    using them with 5/10 Impact shoes

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    Thanks, racewrench!

    Until now:

    - Point One Racing Podium: 0 points
    - Canfield Crampon Ultimate: 2 points
    - Spank Spike: 0 points

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    Platform Pedal Shootout, the best flat is...

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    - Point One Racing Podium: 1 point
    - Canfield Crampon Ultimate: 2 points
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    If I had to chose just one it would it would be Canfields Crampon Ultimate. Assuming they are as good as the OG Crampons.

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    Until now, it seems that CUs is the most popular option:

    - Point One Racing Podium: 1 point
    - Canfield Crampon Ultimate: 3 points
    - Spank Spike: 0 points

    By the way, what about the grip level of Point One Racing Podium? They have less pins than the other two options so I supose their grip will be worse...

    Are you agree with that?
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    I've been riding eggbeaters for a while, but i didn't feel entirely comfortable attempting certain tricks clipped in. I do feel generally comfortable in them, but i do think that i have picked up bad body movement habits from relying on them for bunny hopping and other tricks.

    Now that i am looking to learn how to manual and other fun stuntz I have reviewed this entire thread. whew That out of the way i can say that it looks like any of those listed P1's, CCU, and SP sound pretty good. I am leaning toward the CCUs, but i don't have the money just yet. I did take a close look at the Flypaper pedals and i wish some of those were around, but what is available looks very good too.

    thanks to all the contributors to this thread. When i get some flat pedals i will report back to the forums with my views.

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    Hello all!

    I've opened up a topic regarding flat pedals as I need some advice on this.
    My budget is at around 40$, so what would you recommend me? I've been looking over at Wellgo's as they seem to have the best bang for the buck options. V12 or MG1 seems to have pretty good reviews, but I can also see they have some CNC ones.

    I'm not doing any hardcore stuff with them, I just want a grippier pedal than my current stock ones and I don't like clipless. Please enlighten me. You can reply on my topic too to avoid confusion on this one: Help deciding which flat pedals for my MTB

    Thank you all in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lobanovskyy View Post
    I am confused with the information I am reading because it seems that the Crampon Ultimate's main disadvantage is the "squeaky problems", but I don't understand it if we compare these pedals with Spank Spike one. Apparently, both models have the same desing, haven't they? So, if Crampon Ultimate are squeaky, Spank Spike would have the same problem...
    This is not true. You have read that about the original Crampons, with the exposed spindle. The Crampon Ultimates are a different design and don't have that squeak.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evasive View Post
    This is not true. You have read that about the original Crampons, with the exposed spindle. The Crampon Ultimates are a different design and don't have that squeak.
    yep, nailed it...ultimates have no squeak.

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    lovin the spanky spikes.

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    Perfect! Thank you for your clarification.

    Finally, I think I'll buy the CUs pedals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mykel View Post
    lovin the spanky spikes.

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    Been on the same Point One Podiums for a while, it'll be 3yrs in June and the grip with 5.10's is superb. They are in my opinion the best pedals out there, and I've had some of the others mentioned in this thread, including the DMR Vaults which I currently have on one of my bikes. The Vaults are pretty damn good as well but if had the coin at the time I would've gotten another pair of Podiums.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danglingmanhood View Post
    Been on the same Point One Podiums for a while, it'll be 3yrs in June and the grip with 5.10's is superb. They are in my opinion the best pedals out there, and I've had some of the others mentioned in this thread, including the DMR Vaults which I currently have on one of my bikes. The Vaults are pretty damn good as well but if had the coin at the time I would've gotten another pair of Podiums.
    Any bearing problems with the Podiums?

    How are the Vaults in terms of durability? Is the increased platform size noticeable from the Podiums?
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    eurospek I have not had any issues with bearings on the Podiums, and as far as the Vaults I can't speak to the durability yet as I have only had them a month and been out on them twice due to weather. You do notice the size difference between the two pedals, I still prefer the feel of the Podiums though. Once the snow melts I'll give em' a proper critique.

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    I posted this in the Shimano Saints pedal thread, too. I just got a pair after doing a bunch of reading and research. I've only been able to get out once with them so far as they are brand new, but my first impression was great. I took all of the washers off, so I'm running the pins in the "long" configuration. I wear 5-10 shoes, and the grip was great. I like the durable sounding design of the pedal -- a strong chromoly axle and real bearings in- and outboard (no outboard bushings). My only problem is that I'd like to have extra pins onhand when the time comes to replace one that gets broken. I can't find any info or a source online. Anyone have a source or advice?

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    I've broken 2 pairs of the point 1 pedals and the CS has been the worst I've ever experienced.

    Just ordered the CU's, excited for the change.


    Quote Originally Posted by Lobanovskyy View Post
    Thanks, racewrench!

    Until now:

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    - Canfield Crampon Ultimate: 2 points
    - Spank Spike: 0 points

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soxx View Post
    I've broken 2 pairs of the point 1 pedals and the CS has been the worst I've ever experienced.

    Just ordered the CU's, excited for the change.
    Let me guess, drive side pedal and the smallest bearings near end of axle?

    The CS experience is definitely a bit of luck trying to get someone to respond to you with them.
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    What does mean CS? I don't know this trade...

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    Re: Platform Pedal Shootout, the best flat is...

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    What does mean CS? I don't know this trade...
    Customer service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by chef7734 View Post
    Customer service.

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    Hello all once again!
    I've just found this deal: CarbonCycles.CC :: Components :: Products :: Pedals :: Alloy Flat Pedals, 10 Colours :: CC-PED07F What do you guys think? I can get them shipped to Portugal for 42€ (55$). I was going for the MG1's as I'm looking for some good not-expensive flat pedals, but I've now seen these ones that are thinner...

    Can I get your opinion on these?

    Cheers!

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    Quote Originally Posted by PedroDank View Post
    Hello all once again!
    I've just found this deal: CarbonCycles.CC :: Components :: Products :: Pedals :: Alloy Flat Pedals, 10 Colours :: CC-PED07F What do you guys think? I can get them shipped to Portugal for 42€ (55$). I was going for the MG1's as I'm looking for some good not-expensive flat pedals, but I've now seen these ones that are thinner...

    Can I get your opinion on these?

    Cheers!
    The look like .:HT COMPONENTS:.

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    Quote Originally Posted by womble View Post
    The look like .:HT COMPONENTS:.
    They sure do. Although 6cm smaller and 5g lighter. Considering they cost 140$, are these 52$ ones a good deal?

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    It's a 6mm difference. Either they are a copy, or it's a transcription error.

    One way to tell- give them a shot and let us know

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    Quote Originally Posted by womble View Post
    It's a 6mm difference. Either they are a copy, or it's a transcription error.

    One way to tell- give them a shot and let us know
    Still looking over eBay's auctions for the MG1's. If i can't get a better deal, will go for those ones.

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    tho Crupi makes BMX stuff, anyone ever try these...

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    What do you guys think of the Wellgo's KC001? I can't find any kind of review or feedback about them anywhere online. They seem to be in the 40$ range and a bit thinner, smaller and lighter than the MG1's. You can see it here, for example: New One Pair Wellgo KC001 MTB Bike Bicycle Pedals Light Weight 270g White C203 | eBay (although that seller is asking too much). I can get it for 40$ shipped at aliexpress.com

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    PedroDank,
    I think they are so light because they are so horribly tiny (and this is from someone who's fine on Straitline AMPs which are known for being too small for many MTBers).

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    Thanks for that info! I really don't know if they are small or big as I've never bought pedals before of any kind. Greatly appreciated! Do you think that, to get a good deal, I should just go with the MG1? My shoe size is an european 42 (or 11,5 in USA).

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    Euro 42 is US 8.5 for shoe sizes, not US 11.5.

    MG1s are fine for this shoe size.

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    Pedro, a Euro 42 is an 8.5 American, not 11.5. Most Americans are about a size 10. So you have a smaller than average foot size. (International Shoe Size Conversion Charts/Converter Tables for Shoes Sizes)

    To answer your question, an MG1 should be ok. If you are just buying pedals for the first time, I would get something that seems to be a durable and inexpensive pedal. The MG1's are fine, but there are many other choices. If you want something that sticks to your feet, make sure it has threaded set screws (looks like a machine screw pointing upwards). I would avoid anything with smooth pins, like the older Crank Bros, and Straitline. For what it is worth, I think the new Shimano Saint pedals are probably the lowest cost, high performance pedals out there. If I didn't own Point1 Racing pedals, I would get those. I think they may be out of your price range though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PedroDank View Post
    My shoe size is an european 42 (or 11,5 in USA).
    Must be a typo, because those sizes aren't the same on this chart.

    Either way, MG-1 have been favored by the weight conscious budget minded folks for years.

    If you want much more durability (and very likely comfort) at the expense of some weight and money, then take a hard look at Shimano Saint (PD-MX80). They are unrivaled for value I think.

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    I wasn't aware of the 2 previous posts until I posted this one )

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    Hm, I totally get avoiding Crank Bros but why Straitlines? I run the De Factos on one bike and they are awesome. The Amps that I have on another bike are not as grippy (fewer pins), but still good. I guess expensive because of the weight savings, I use them for xc.

    Anyway, just installed e.13 lg1+ and while they are not light, I really like them. Maybe even more so than the Straitlines - but this may be partly because they are new

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    Quote Originally Posted by rdhfreethought View Post
    Pedro, a Euro 42 is an 8.5 American, not 11.5. Most Americans are about a size 10. So you have a smaller than average foot size. (International Shoe Size Conversion Charts/Converter Tables for Shoes Sizes)

    To answer your question, an MG1 should be ok. If you are just buying pedals for the first time, I would get something that seems to be a durable and inexpensive pedal. The MG1's are fine, but there are many other choices. If you want something that sticks to your feet, make sure it has threaded set screws (looks like a machine screw pointing upwards). I would avoid anything with smooth pins, like the older Crank Bros, and Straitline. For what it is worth, I think the new Shimano Saint pedals are probably the lowest cost, high performance pedals out there. If I didn't own Point1 Racing pedals, I would get those. I think they may be out of your price range though.
    I apologize. I've used a table too, but looks like I looked at the wrong place...
    I am buying pedals for the first time and I do not want to spend too much money on this (>60$); all i need is better grip and a good-overhaul pedal. I've read that thin pedals are more important than light pedals and the size is pretty important too. Also important to know is that I dont do DH - I just ride in light gravel and a lot in the road as well.
    I've taken a look at the shimano and I can see they are great value for the money, but still...I don't want to spend that much in a pedal right now. I prefer to save some $ to also get better shoes for this.
    All things considered, I think MG1 is the right choice for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by J. Random Psycho View Post
    Must be a typo, because those sizes aren't the same on this chart.

    Either way, MG-1 have been favored by the weight conscious budget minded folks for years.

    If you want much more durability (and very likely comfort) at the expense of some weight and money, then take a hard look at Shimano Saint (PD-MX80). They are unrivaled for value I think.

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    I wasn't aware of the 2 previous posts until I posted this one )
    Thanks for your input. I liked the consistent comment on the PD-MX80. As I've said above, they are a bit over my budget.
    You say the MG1 are favored by the weight conscious budget minded people, but the weight isn't really my concern at all, as I've mentioned above.

    Now just a few questions: I've also learnt that concave pedals will provide comfort in longer rides... The MG1 is totally flat, right? How much really is "longer" rides? I usually ride for 1h30 or 2h...not that much. Also, the only MG1 pedal that has no paint at all (I've seen it gets scuffed really easily due to magnesium's softness) is the silver one, right? I'm asking this because I can see "Titanium" color in eBay as well. Too bad wellgo's official website is still under construction as I would like to get real official info on their products.

    Once again, thank you for your feedback.

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    For 2 hour rides, you'll most likely be able to get away with flat shape, if the platform area is sufficient. But the slightly concave shape (of Shimano flats, for example) is felt and appreciated immediately as you begin the ride.

    I rode a lot with PD-MX30, and liked them so much for the shape and durability. Not so much for thickness, weight and grub screw pins, however. Now that PD-MX80 have been improved in all these areas.. I would be riding them without any second thoughts, but I bought a pair of steel-axle AMPs at a good price before the 80s were released.

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    The PD-MX80 does look good, but I can't get them at a good price...
    I've decided to go for the MG1. All things considered, they are the best solution in my prince range.

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    2mm longer pins on Saint. grip = brutal. i think 1mm longer than original would also be big improvement. M4/10mm is also much more grippy than original with 8.5mm full length.

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    Anyone know how thick the new Hope F20s are?

    Full bearings sound good, I wonder what the tradeoff is with platform thickness. Hope hasn't posted any measurements.

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    I am considering the AMPs. My feet are size 9.5. I'm a little conserened about the smaller platform. What do you guys think?

    My first choice is the Ultimates, but Canfield is out of the red ones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    I am considering the AMPs. My feet are size 9.5. I'm a little conserened about the smaller platform. What do you guys think?

    My first choice is the Ultimates, but Canfield is out of the red ones.
    I think you'll be OK for size, unless you are used to huge pedals.

    I am 11 - 11.5 depending on shoe and run them (red too, btw) on my xc / commuter bike without any problems.

    However, for DH I'd prefer my Straitline De factos or e.13 LG1+

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    Check out these light weight pedals, doubt there are pedals much lighter. Would I trust them for any dh or agressive riding? Nope. Looks like a commuter type pedal for very light riders.

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    Quote Originally Posted by monstertiki View Post
    Check out these light weight pedals, doubt there are pedals much lighter. Would I trust them for any dh or agressive riding? Nope. Looks like a commuter type pedal for very light riders.

    Found: Ultra-Minimalist Titanium VP Blade Flat Pedal - Bike Rumor

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    It looks like you could get the toe of your shoe stuck in tose things.

    I'm ordering a pair of CB Cramp Ultimates tomorrow.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mountain Cycle Shawn View Post
    It looks like you could get the toe of your shoe stuck in tose things.
    Haha, yeah... I agree that durability does not look to be the only issue.
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    Ha!

    I do want these VPs. I expect they'll be perfect for my commuter / xc Litepeed, which is also Ti Right now I am running Amps on it...

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    how about acros a-flat? they look good. atm im using pedals from superstars, similar to kona wah wah. unbeatable for price!!

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    Sweet!

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    I got AMPs on the way!

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    The Chromag pedals are to be released Monday, according to their FB. Looking forward to hearing details. The picture from their post:
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