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    Paint stripping/works finish

    I know it's not rocket science, but here's a quick rundown on my project. I had a Socom for a bit, and honestly my favorite thing about it was the works finish. When I decided to go back to my M1, I wanted to spruce it up a bit with a new finish and new parts.

    I just followed some tips on how to strip paint and voila... home made works finish.
    Here's the crap you get at your local auto parts place for $5:



    Here's the crazy stuff that happens to your paint when you spray it on:





    And there's the final product:



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    It'll oxidize and dull since it's bare aluminum now. You can clearcoat it if that's the finish you want.

    A little bit of Mother's Mag Polish and elbow grease can make that sucker shine like chrome.

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    You clear coated it didnt you?

    Aluminum doesnt rust, but it does oxidize. If you leave it 100% raw like that, you'll have to touch up the bike with aluminum polish or a scotch bright pad every few days cuz it will get really hazy and uneven looking. Just a warning.

    EDIT: ^ ^ beat me to it!

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    That second pic just creeps me out, it looks like a disease or something

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    It'll dull to a point, and then stop. Aluminum oxide will only form on the surface, and will actually protect the material beneath it, unlike steel.

    Gotta love those chemical strippers. Just watch that paint bubble up.

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    I didn't do anything other than a quick scotchbrite. While at the Intense factory last year, I saw how they just take the works bikes out of heat treat, put stickers on them, and put them in the box.... no coating whatsoever. I'd actually prefer if it gets a bit darker over time. Not into that shiny look these days.

    Yeah, that paint stripper is some nasty stuff. Oh, and FYI... don't spray it on your arm!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rover Nick
    That second pic just creeps me out, it looks like a disease or something
    indeed hahaha
    Road riders put their bikes on top of shiny $50,000 cars. But the average full-suspension rider puts his bike on top of a beat-up barely-hanging-together car that costs a fraction of what their bike costs. For them their bike is their life.

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    Yup, it'll oxidize ... but won't hurt the frame one bit, I believe. Lot of folks don't care for the alOxi look, but I think it's cool: understated to the extreme.

    Cool project.

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    Thats it, no other steps? Thats pretty awesome. Would it work the same on a cr-mo frame? Ive gotta dig that guinea pig bike out of my closet and give it a shot.
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    With cromoly, you most defintiely need to take the proper precautions to inhibit oxidation. Cromoly rusts, rust will eat through it.

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    cover it with honey and loose a pack of angry badgers on it....

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    Dug up this thread with a search --- so if i strip my AL frame could i build it back up/ride it without a clearcoat? i just imagine it would be a pain in the arse to apply a nice, even clear coat on my own. would the oxidization really adversely affect the appearance of the frame? is it in fact true that the intense works finish is NOT clear coated? Thanks!

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    Yes, aluminum does not need to be clearcoated. However, if there is no CC then it will oxidize on the surface. Oxidation will change the color. It's easy enough to touch it up with some Mother's Mag Polish though. This has all been covered in the thread.

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    it won't affect the composition/integrity of the metal though (as with steel) right? you're fast dude, thanks!

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    The oxidation will not, it's just like anodizing. If anything, it's protecting the material beneath.

    The stripping process... I don't know. I've stripped a couple of frames/parts and have not had any issues. I guess the chemical reaction would give off heat, but I wouldn't think it's nearly enough to change the temper/heat treating of the material. It will still void your warranty though.

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    is that really the case with the Intense works finish; no clear coat?

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    I don't think they CC... but I can't confirm it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goliath_2
    so if i strip my AL frame could i build it back up/ride it without a clearcoat?!
    Yes.

    Strip the paint. Hose it off. Build it up. Keep it simple.

    I just went outside to take some updated pics. Still looks as good as it did when I started this thread about a year ago. And it's not been babied... flogged through 4 days of muck at Whistler, the rocks of Bootleg, heat of AZ, etc...

    I've been really happy with the results. The finish is very durable; No more worry about scratches.




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    Quote Originally Posted by DrEVS
    While at the Intense factory last year, I saw how they just take the works bikes out of heat treat, put stickers on them, and put them in the box.... no coating whatsoever.
    Not sure how else to say it....

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    nice! that looks friggen sweet! i'll go get a can of that stuff - auto parts store i assume.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DrEVS
    Not sure how else to say it....
    shoot, i must have missed that. thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by Goliath_2
    is that really the case with the Intense works finish; no clear coat?
    That is correct

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    If you polish it up do you need to clear coat it?

    I see lots of polished frames.. Santa Cruz especially.. they have no clear coat.. how are they kept shiney?

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    That looks great!!

    I, too, have a raw bike. It's a great way to bring an older bike up to a 'new-school' look -- especially since you sourced the decals. My downtube was all scratched from shuttling/riding and looked hideous so I decided to strip it. Now I don't have to worry about paint AND it looks better!

    Here at the shop, the 'Works' finish is reallllly popular on our Intense sales.

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    By clear coating them

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    That looks tiiiiight! I'm thinkin I might do that to my 7point eventually, I think it would look pretty sweet polished too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rb
    Here at the shop, the 'Works' finish is reallllly popular on our Intense sales.
    Which is kinda funny cause it saves Intense $$$ by not having to paint but costs us (the consumer) the same price as a painted frame.

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    hmm - interesting - my M1 is getting a bit bashed up so I thought about a paint job but that looks cool.......I see my next project coming on.....

    now - would this work with Marzocchi forks - I have a feeling their lowers couldn't take it - is that right?

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    Is clear coating a difficult or hard process to do?

    I am looking at trying this on an steel bike of mine. Does the steel rust regardless of the conditions its put through or is it only when it comes in contact with mud, water ect?

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    Quick Q:

    does it work on pre painted Bikes; example Specialized P1?

    Does it work with Powder coated bikes?

    just curious!

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    Looks like that stripper works really well was it a lot of work to get in all the little nook and crannies

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    paint stripping

    hello,

    i just started stripping my iron horse sunday.
    i just like the look.

    i ame just thinking abouth stripping my fork to.

    how will this affect my fox 40?

    are those outher legs alu r sommething else?

    what do u guys think?


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    Look into the fork construction, I believe Magnesium alloys get used a lot for lowers, you dont want bare magnesium on your bike, its very reactive
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    I have stripped frames/parts a few times and it works great.
    The first time I clearcoated the frame and after a year it chipped,yellowed and looked horrible.

    The last one I did was my Bullit last april. I left the frame raw(no clear) and used scotch brite every few months. It looked good all season.

    I'm sure if I used a better clear or had a professional clearcoat the previous frame I would have had better results but scotchbrite was way cheaper .

    This pic was taken after 5 months of use.

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    Clearcoating is just like painting, if you know how, it's not hard to do. If you don't.... you'll get under/overspray, runs, bubbles, etc.

    Steel needs to be clearcoated. There's moisture (water) in the air. It will corrode.

    Yes... pre-painted and powdercoated bikes can still be stripped... That Intense was painted before... right? Let's think about that. Powdercoating may be harder or take longer to strip. The easy alternative is to take it to a powdercoater and have them dip it to remove all the paint.

    Most lowers are magnesium. As mentioned, magnesium is very reactive. You could strip it, but you'd have to clearcoat it.

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    If your a weight weenie, stripping the paint can save up to almost 500grams (1lbs).

    polishing a full frame is a bugger though, with getting into all the nooks and crannies :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeanH
    If your a weight weenie, stripping the paint can save up to almost 500grams (1lbs).

    polishing a full frame is a bugger though, with getting into all the nooks and crannies :P
    500 grams? NO WAY JOSE

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    up to it varies a lot.

    count in that to get a good paint finish, you need to give it a base coat too.

    Paint and base coating, weighs more then you think.

    The easy way though, would be for someone to weigh their frame before and after.

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    I stripped my frame last winter, and rode the bike for a year in that condition. After washing, I'd touch up a few spots with fine steel wool, that would take just two minutes. No problems with layers of oxidation:



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    Dang that looks nice! Did you polish it or is that just what it looks like stripped?

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    Quote Originally Posted by XSL_WiLL
    With cromoly, you most defintiely need to take the proper precautions to inhibit oxidation. Cromoly rusts, rust will eat through it.
    I seriously doubt that there are much more then a handful of people on this board that keep their bikes long enough for the frame to rust through.

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    Quote Originally Posted by splatman
    Dang that looks nice! Did you polish it or is that just what it looks like stripped?
    It's been handworked; after stripping with aircraft stripper, I used a steel brush, which you want to go easy with, don't get carried away with it, because you can do more harm than good. Then I used steel wool, starting with fine grade, finishing with triple fine grade.
    This pic is from last year, right now the frame is in the paint shop. Originally, when I stripped it, it was to save a few bucks by stripping it myself before bringing it to a powdercoat shop. The more I worked the frame with the steel brush, the more I liked the way it was looking, so I decided to polish it out and ride it that way for a while. Now I want to try a color again.
    When I tire of the color, I can allways strip and polish it again.
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    Sweet, I'm liking the idea of stripping more and more! Maybe next winter that could be my project...

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    Renegade awesome work that looks great. Did you polish the cranks as well? Where did you get that fab bash guard from?

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    Karve, you might guess that looking at my pics that I don't care mush for stickers or decals. I wanted to complete that look by getting rid of the "Deore XT" that is usually seen on the outside of the Hollowtech 2 cranks. That was a little trickier, the laser marked letters are underneath a clear coat anodize; removing that anodize with mechanical means wasn't that easy. If there was to be a "next time", I would try easy off oven cleaner on the clear ano.
    The bash guard is home made, as are the rockers and chainguide; I'm a machinist by trade.
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    Dang that M1 looks awesome, makes me wish I never parted with mine years ago.
    I might have to pick another one up for this summer. I know of a mint 03 med. going for $400

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renegade
    The bash guard is home made, as are the rockers and chainguide; I'm a machinist by trade.
    Niiiice good to see people making bits especially when they come out so sweet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by boogenman
    Dang that M1 looks awesome, makes me wish I never parted with mine years ago.
    I might have to pick another one up for this summer. I know of a mint 03 med. going for $400
    Thanks - its turned out really well. I tried parting with mine too (downgraded to Socom), but ended up coming back to her. Pure DH fun has no better ally than a buttery 4 bar. Here's the pic that came 0.5 seconds after my avatar pic:



    Used M1's are such a great value and the design is so much fun on the trail; go for it!

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    I used a polishing kit that dremel makes and my bike came our awesome. I also did some spot painting here and there. I have repolished it once but just cause I was bored with mothers. It will amaze you as to how easy it is.
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    sweet, looks like i ressurected a popular thread. i like that works finish. i don't think they touch it with steel wool/scotch brite or anything. correct me if i'm wrong.

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